DUST Search - Why do people go crazy over BPOs?

Maken Tosch wrote:

Zeylon Rho wrote:

I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever".

The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc.

Which is why I ever doubt they will remove any more BPOs from our inventory other than the four BPO vehicle modules that were removed as a result of A) the initial vehicle overhaul and B) becoming absolutely useless as a result of "A". Many of the those BPOs were bought directly with cash (no aurum required) such as the Templar BPOs, the Toxin weapons, and anything else that came prepackaged in a merc pack in the Sony store. Taking those BPOs away from our inventory will no doubt equal one massive legal headache for CCP that is so big that CCP won't be able to sleep at night anymore if they do that.

As for cosmetic items, I have an idea.

CCP should let us:
A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store.
B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store.
C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough).
D) A permanent paint bucket system.

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Vegetation Monster KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:07:00 - [1] - Quote Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? B Double O T Y
Tectonic Fusion 1120	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:08:00 - [2] - Quote BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 413	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:09:00 - [3] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Player market doesn't exist. Won't know market value until it does(if it ever does exist)
Vegetation Monster KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:10:00 - [4] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. B Double O T Y
Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 139	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:15:00 - [5] - Quote All I know is I love my sever and templar logi suits Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 876	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:20:00 - [6] - Quote Some are unique. Like my much coveted 'Fossil' with 2 equip slots and 2 high slots Others are cosmetic like my sweet 'Syndie'. Worth every penny "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Clyffton Donovan Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 138	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:21:00 - [7] - Quote When something is removed from general markets, they become rare. Director / PC Ambassador Zulu Squad Leader Invictus Maneo~ "I Remain Unvanquished"
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 131	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:24:00 - [8] - Quote Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
Rusty Shallows 1019	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:25:00 - [9] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Tectonic Fusion 1120	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:26:00 - [10] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. Only the LAV... Solo Player Squad status: Locked

The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 221	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2372	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:34:00 - [12] - Quote You won't see the real value of BPOs until their place in dust development becomes concrete as well as the player base becoming something equivalent to Eve. Otherwise you'll never really know the value/demand. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6961	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:38:00 - [13] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3512	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:16:00 - [14] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. Never discount laziness. The cosmetic bit is large too. For me, paying "real money" to get a cosmetic item that is NOT permanent is stupid. A BPO was more justifiable since you'll always have it. BPOs were the only reason I ever bought packs or AUR. I actually bought the Gamestop-Mercenary pack after seeing the Syndicate SMG in game and thinking.. "I want that!" Pre-uprising, it was this great fire-engine red color. I'm not a huge fan of the current appearance though. The permanence is the only thing that gives it appeal (I can have that "look" forever), and in that particular case it was worth $20 to me (I didn't care about any of the other random crap in merc packs). The unfortunate part there is that the "look" changed for the worse, and it ceased to be the thing I was originally interested in getting. I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2941	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:19:00 - [15] - Quote Because those BPO's allow me to have loadouts with an infinity sign next to them, but are also way better than those crappy starter fits. My STD heavy fit costs me 4500ISK, I could care less that I am saving ISK, it just really bothers me that I have to restock after every damn match. I need a MLT HMG BPO, CCP. Shield Recommendations
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 522	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:19:00 - [16] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Player market doesn't exist. Won't know market value until it does(if it ever does exist) ^ This. The current prices are fixed NPC corps selling you the gear. When the EVE/Dust economy gets merged, it will be a player market. Meaning people in EVE will create all the suits and weapons, then sell them to us Dust players for any amount they choose. That's why BPO's were removed to begin with. It will bork the player driven economy of New Eden.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 340	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:40:00 - [17] - Quote BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6964	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:12:00 - [18] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Which is why I ever doubt they will remove any more BPOs from our inventory other than the four BPO vehicle modules that were removed as a result of A) the initial vehicle overhaul and B) becoming absolutely useless as a result of "A". Many of the those BPOs were bought directly with cash (no aurum required) such as the Templar BPOs, the Toxin weapons, and anything else that came prepackaged in a merc pack in the Sony store. Taking those BPOs away from our inventory will no doubt equal one massive legal headache for CCP that is so big that CCP won't be able to sleep at night anymore if they do that. As for cosmetic items, I have an idea. CCP should let us: A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store. B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store. C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough). D) A permanent paint bucket system. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6964	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:13:00 - [19] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! For everything else there's Master Card. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10000	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:17:00 - [20] - Quote Because when I see an infinity symbol next to my fittings I feel very bourgeoise. Forum Master I Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:29:00 - [21] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? some of us think long term.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:30:00 - [22] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:31:00 - [23] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. why not?
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 527	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:31:00 - [24] - Quote low genius wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out? I despise skinweaves 15 shield hp regen? Ha! 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 596	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:33:00 - [25] - Quote Ahh BPO,s the best way to make isk and **** off other players and get them kicked out of fac war with out the loss of isk. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 129	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:40:00 - [26] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! Set ut up next to a suppky depot and switch to a free suit and the whole thing is free! I wonder if they notice I was wearing a starter AV fit when they died?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6968	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:42:00 - [27] - Quote low genius wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out? OOOOOHHhh a long time ago back during closed beta. They were actually just event rewards as part of a stress test for the Singularity test server. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3515	Posted - 2014.02.24 09:16:00 - [28] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Which is why I ever doubt they will remove any more BPOs from our inventory other than the four BPO vehicle modules that were removed as a result of A) the initial vehicle overhaul and B) becoming absolutely useless as a result of "A". Many of the those BPOs were bought directly with cash (no aurum required) such as the Templar BPOs, the Toxin weapons, and anything else that came prepackaged in a merc pack in the Sony store. Taking those BPOs away from our inventory will no doubt equal one massive legal headache for CCP that is so big that CCP won't be able to sleep at night anymore if they do that. As for cosmetic items, I have an idea. CCP should let us: A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store. B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store. C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough). D) A permanent paint bucket system. I think if you could use AUR to get really large luxury quarters with bells and whistles (and theoretically get other Mercs in there), that would be kinda cool. Our quarters now are kinda pointless. Of course, the quarters in EVE are also pointless and people still can't "socialize" with their avatars in EVE on a station. So, it may not be realistic to expect all those things when they haven't pulled it off EVE-side yet. I was a little surprised they didn't already do EVE style avatars. The tech exists, and the model currently wouldn't need to do anything aside from walk around in tiny quarters. I don't think a permanent paint bucket system will ever happen. The selling point for most "special" items is their coloring differences. The point at which we can make our own colors not only reduces the incentive to ever buy any special item again (dried up revenue), but it means we can effectively recreate anything they've released before (Templar Suits, etc.) devaluing every special thing ever released. So, we'd either get a really really limited paint bucket that can't replicate patterns or designs for crap, or they'd be forced to seriously step up their custom suit design with logos/textures we can't make (and upgrade past special suits). Either way seems like it wouldn't happen. There's not always much variety in "special" stuff in EVE either. Like Sarum or Tash-Murkon Magnate frigates are stat-copied recolors of an existing ship with different logos tacked on for example. One thing I do like about the recolors in EVE is that attached turrets take on the new color schemes. So many of the avatar things are kinda questionable given there's so little use for the avatars. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Lucrezia LeGrand 341	Posted - 2014.02.24 09:29:00 - [29] - Quote Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! Thale groupie
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1810	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:16:00 - [30] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! My 'Templar' gear is ace looking. Just wish I had a 'Syndicate' to go with it... that stupid ScP has ******** fitting costs, and my 'Toxin' is green. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!



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