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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:10:00 -
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Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!!
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Christiphoros von Poe
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:34:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally.
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:48:00 -
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breach is too high risk to kill tanks that 3 seconds that you have to stand still is 2 seconds too many in that 2 seconds that tank already dun got your a$$
thats why i use the assualt FG the reduced fire time increases total damage output and i can strafe while fireing so i can solo a tank within its optimal range
3av nades 2 asault FG shots =
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DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:50:00 -
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I miss 1 shot Instalation with my Prof 5 Breach Forge Gun, and 1 shot vipers and lav's with my Ish
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Jake Diesel
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:54:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally.
When 1.8 drops, all forge weapons will be nerfed again due to the universal nerf of damage mods. CCP has yet to confirm any buffs to the forge gun for 1.8. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:06:00 -
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You do know that if it has 2 milita heavy reppers it gets back 200 a second
Also if you hit the back you can 1 shot every single tank unhardened
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:19:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally.
Breach needs a little bit of damage. It's currently rendered obsolete by the other variants which perform its role more effectively. Ishukone can DPS most tanks to death without too many problems, and Kaal is good for holding a charge to prep for a que.
Breach is fun, but impractical. The best use I've found for it is oneshotting pesky LAVs.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:21:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! So you're complaining that you can't solo a tank?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:23:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!!
But then the Tankers will complain about how they lose their Tanks in one shot to no-skill weapons!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:29:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! But then the Tankers will complain about how they lose their Tanks in one shot to no-skill weapons! We complain about the swarm being easy mode, not the forge. We know the forge has to be aimed. I use and love my forge guns. Taka basically just uses the breach now. I'll switch between the assault and breach depending on the situation.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:34:00 -
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I really don't understand why they debuffed this weapon. It was one of the few breach weapons that actually had and fulfilled a purpose, where as most of the others just get outdone by every other weapon.
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:03:00 -
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Breach FG isn't a solo weapon, it's for when you have a swarmer or forge gunner with you, and it's best used for popping dropships. Since you can hold your charge, you shoot the ship right before the swarms hit so you can strip its shields. With another forge gun, you both just fire when ready.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:26:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally.
12 second to charge for 2 shots.... and 12 seconds of no moving..... if you cant get away, you must suck at tanking...
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Vegetation Monster
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Breach FG isn't a solo weapon, it's for when you have a swarmer or forge gunner with you, and it's best used for popping dropships. Since you can hold your charge, you shoot the ship right before the swarms hit so you can strip its shields. With another forge gun, you both just fire when ready.
ok, so now i need another person to help me kill a 0 sp milita soma? wtf bro... already dumped millions of sp into fg and the most powerful one cant even two hit a soma. Is something wrong with you?
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Vegetation Monster
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:29:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! So you're complaining that you can't solo a tank?
im complaining because a 0 sp soma worth like 57k isk takes more than 2 hits from a 1.5mil sp fg...
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:30:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! your not meant to 2 hit a armor silly and your not a one man AV for the whole team !
the FG is fine its you who do,s not get how to play this game that's wrong !
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:32:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Breach FG isn't a solo weapon, it's for when you have a swarmer or forge gunner with you, and it's best used for popping dropships. Since you can hold your charge, you shoot the ship right before the swarms hit so you can strip its shields. With another forge gun, you both just fire when ready. ok, so now i need another person to help me kill a 0 sp milita soma? wtf bro... already dumped millions of sp into fg and the most powerful one cant even two hit a soma. Is something wrong with you? Your complaint is with MLT tanks, not Breach Forge Guns
There are other vehicles in the game. My IAFG rapes MLT tanks. As I just said, the Breach is best as a team weapon used to alpha dropships and provide fire support on tanks. If you want to solo tanks, pull out your IAFG
It's not my fault you're using the variant wrong, or that MLT tanks are broken.
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:32:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! So you're complaining that you can't solo a tank? im complaining because a 0 sp soma worth like 57k isk takes more than 2 hits from a 1.5mil sp fg...
Give us adv/proto hulls then you would be able to 1 shot it from the front even tho you can 1 shot every HAV from the back but thats too much work
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:35:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally. 12 second to charge for 2 shots.... and 12 seconds of no moving..... if you cant get away, you must suck at tanking...
12 sec,s ??
iv seen that thing charges up in 8 sec,s as for getting out of range no your a bad tankers it you think you need to get out of range you get out of its field of view ! if you get out of its filed of view it cant hit you..... vs just driving to the other side of the map where he can hit you the whole time !
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:02:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! My 450,000 isk Gunloggi gets 3 shotted by proto breach FG without hardeners... They don't even have to aim at the back of my tank either. If they aim at the back then I get two shotted. I feel the FG is in a good place right now personally. 12 second to charge for 2 shots.... and 12 seconds of no moving..... if you cant get away, you must suck at tanking... 12 sec,s ?? iv seen that thing charges up in 8 sec,s as for getting out of range no your a bad tankers it you think you need to get out of range you get out of its field of view ! if you get out of its filed of view it cant hit you..... vs just driving to the other side of the map where he can hit you the whole time !
im like on a tower... but still snipers!!
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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:50:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!!
yes it can
that's what 2200 base damage? so you're doing about 2500 i guess? soma has 5200 health, of course you can 2 hit it.
you're doing the same damage as a sica with 2 damage mods, sometimes I 2 shot tanks with it, sometimes they have a tiny bit of HP left.
I understand you have to be stood still to use the proto FG but you should be able to shot it, if not get a guy with a militia forge gun to put in the first shot for you, with 1x complex damage mods MLT FG does 1,200HP so that's the shields gone. |
John ShepardIII
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:52:00 -
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Forges do not need a buff. You just have to be in a better position to blow up tanks now.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:55:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! yes it can that's what 2200 base damage? so you're doing about 2500 i guess? soma has 5200 health, of course you can 2 hit it. you're doing the same damage as a sica with 2 damage mods, sometimes I 2 shot tanks with it, sometimes they have a tiny bit of HP left. I understand you have to be stood still to use the proto FG but you should be able to shot it, if not get a guy with a militia forge gun to put in the first shot for you, with 1x complex damage mods MLT FG does 1,200HP so that's the shields gone.
did you forget the repper?
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.21 23:56:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! So you're complaining that you can't solo a tank?
i can fggt
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:08:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! Forge Guns need a redesign without a breach or assault variant. Thanks to game changes since Chrome CCP pretty much forced people into using iFG while others brought out Breaches for very specific trolling purposes. No amount of tweaking will fix that kind of game imbalance.
Uprising 1.7 made them junk. You should save yourself some pain and just go Large Rail. This is Tanks514 after all.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:29:00 -
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Your complaing you can't kill a tank in under a minute, while I'm over here with a Proto Swarm Launcher that can't even scratch off paint.
Get out of here bro.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:32:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Your complaing you can't kill a tank in under a minute, while I'm over here with a Proto Swarm Launcher that can't even scratch off paint.
Get out of here bro.
lol...
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:07:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Man , a prototype breach fg proficiency 4 and 2 complex dmg modded fg cant even 2 hit kill a unhardened fking soma. please give it its damage back, its enough of a weakness to have to stand still. PLEASE!! So you're complaining that you can't solo a tank? im complaining because a 0 sp soma worth like 57k isk takes more than 2 hits from a 1.5mil sp fg... No, you're complaining that you can't solo a tank, because someone paying attention can escape in those 5.5 seconds or however long it takes to charge a breach with SP into it.
I don't forge a tank unless I know someone else in my squad is also targeting the same tank. If I try soloing a tank, and they get away, I don't complain that they're OP. I try it again from a better angle for me.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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