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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:08:00 -
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Man all any one talks about is how there are only a few corps in PC. Well you know what suck it up. From the history of dust we can see that during times of war powers change. As well as alliances. AE started on the bottom but they started during a time of conflict, the FEC war. Then outlasted those in power until they left. Then a few months down the road the OH/AE war broke out shortly after a new merc corp made it's first appearance in the PX1/ML skirmishes. FA's goal was not to be the corporation that takes down AE it was formed so that corporations that didn't have a full 16 man A team that could compete with the best this game has to offer could find players that can compete at that level. But now all that PC has turned into is battle between AE. FA. And NF's newly return to PC. 89.9% of every battle for a district turns into another AE vs FA match. Yesterday dystopia killed 24 of our clones out of a 120 clone, clone pack. Then they hire AE and TRE to defend there district. If you wish to be in PC then look at how the people that are in PC got to where they are. It wasn't by starting some **** and saying your the best so I should get a district. It was by being the underdog and working up but if you think PC is just fun and games and making isk. Think again. if you want to be in PC then be in PC. NS and AE only hold 41% of it. There is still a lot to take so snipe a district it's not hard. And before you attack something talk to the leading corps about not ringing against you. But if you use them as ringers then it will just become another FA vs AE match and you will eventually loose your district.
Also think about players you hate seeing on the other side becuse your know your team will most likely lose. Well Guess what this people often ply PC and you will see them. Like today roner going 28/6 in a shotty scout armer stacked and damped. And if you say oh all these players are crap I kill them all the time. They shouldn't be in PC. All I have to say to you is. Where are you ? I would love To see some fresh faces in PC.
I'm done. Time to run some pubs since there's no one hiring for pc's. Maybe AE will hire me. Would be nice to be on the same side as some of those guys again.
I reject you reality and substitute my own.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2259
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:32:00 -
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Meh, I like fighting w/e.
I just don't like lag, d/ces, massive desync's , Rubberbanding that rerails FC's communicating for the remainder of the battle, random fuckin bugs
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:08:00 -
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Is this a 'hire FA for all your PC needs' thread? I think I missed the point..
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
72
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:08:00 -
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whats pc ? lol |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2260
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:19:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:Is this a 'hire FA for all your PC needs' thread? I think I missed the point..
I think the point is reflected in your sig:
People are trying so hard not to lose that they will never chance enough to win.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
458
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:19:00 -
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No it's a fight yo own damn battles post.
I reject you reality and substitute my own.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:20:00 -
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If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH.
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
458
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:24:00 -
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It would but how many will chance it when down the road they are going to have to fight one of the top corps. And no one wants to so they will just blue up everyone and it's one more corp that doesn't fight
I reject you reality and substitute my own.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3267
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:39:00 -
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I'm thinking of a famous Frank White quote right now.
We will eventually get there. I would love to jump in PC, just to upgrade my skillsets on the battlefield. It's taking some time to build and such, but that's one of the stops on the list.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1609
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:42:00 -
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Wish I had balls, that'd be cool.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2260
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:50:00 -
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balls are for pussies.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
124
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:05:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH.
PC does need to get fixed.
Twitter @Matthew_Dust
Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
57
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:18:00 -
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Yeah, we've lost plenty, but we've had some awesome victories. Honestly, if I was a new corp, I wouldn't bother with PC until it's 'fixed'. It's a pain in the ass to snipe a district and it's way expensive to clone pack your way into a district. I mean, I guess you could buy a district but where's the fun in that?
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
179
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:31:00 -
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I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9811
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:14:00 -
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You forgot to include puppy spies. 
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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dwater
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
37
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:20:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy.
The last time you fought your own battle |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
179
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:34:00 -
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dwater wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy. The last time you fought your own battle
i was there
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Salviatino Maiano
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
119
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:26:00 -
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The entire fight your opponent until you can beat them is a nice thought. Reality is that trying to build up a small corp into PC is close to impossible requires more time in this game than any Dev has ever seen and the constant vigilance to suffer defeats not only on the battlefield but within the corp.
Any time a great player shows up in a small corp they take the beatings until they decide losing isn't fun any more and they promptly leave for larger more well known corps. The talent isn't spread out enough and there isn't enough new talent to begin anew. You can't expect a new corp to progress unless they have the chance to build a fighting group. if they are the same group getting beaten over and over its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, its a question of whether or not they have the sanity to know when to stop..... it is only a game.
I'm right behind you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29eS4dXgT58#t=36
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
459
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Posted - 2014.02.21 09:12:00 -
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And how do you explain FA Almost all of our players were unknown with no PC experience. Yet we now hold 11 districts and are hired to fight AE daily.
I reject you reality and substitute my own.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4215
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Posted - 2014.02.21 09:46:00 -
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You guys are fighting daily?
God damn... I wish I could on :(
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 5 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
58
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Posted - 2014.02.21 09:58:00 -
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Wolfica wrote:And how do you explain FA Almost all of our players were unknown with no PC experience. Yet we now hold 11 districts and are hired to fight AE daily.
*cough* locked districts *cough* *cough*
But seriously, I don't think ppl can brag about how many districts they have locked down at any given time. There's no value in taking pawns, not only off the table, but home with you after you play chess with someone. You're not proving anything (well, you are kind of ;)), you're just making your opponent play a different game.
Like elder scroll on ps4 when that comes out....
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
426
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Posted - 2014.02.21 10:02:00 -
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Elder scrolls looks bad... people keep leaving this game to go play garbage console mmorpgs...
(>^_^)><(^.^<)
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
180
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Posted - 2014.02.21 10:11:00 -
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All corps are made different with different plans for where they want to go with there dust life. Zatara has a good eye for talent and has put together a solid corp when no one thought he could. Some new corps rush into PC when there guys are not ready and have to hire ringers for every fight they have which does not teach them anything.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:02:00 -
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Wolfica wrote:No it's a fight yo own damn battles post.
Amen. |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2262
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:46:00 -
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Salviatino Maiano wrote:The entire fight your opponent until you can beat them is a nice thought. Reality is that trying to build up a small corp into PC is close to impossible requires more time in this game than any Dev has ever seen and the constant vigilance to suffer defeats not only on the battlefield but within the corp.
Any time a great player shows up in a small corp they take the beatings until they decide losing isn't fun any more and they promptly leave for larger more well known corps. The talent isn't spread out enough and there isn't enough new talent to begin anew. You can't expect a new corp to progress unless they have the chance to build a fighting group. if they are the same group getting beaten over and over its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, its a question of whether or not they have the sanity to know when to stop..... it is only a game.
I dunno took about 3 weeks for me to find enough talent. It's all there in the pubs.
Thankfully you have people like 843 Bane and Calisk and xDestruction and Carlos and Fusion Commander and Unique Id that are just 2 examples of people from 3 corps who operate (generally) on a completely different plane than the vast majority of their peers.
But despite the people around them not being in the same caliber as them, they stick it out and carry those teams to places they otherwise couldn't reach.
Immagine if Kalente had quit AE because after a month of fighting TP AE's record was 4 wins and 13 losses and having been kicked from PC 3x (and only getting in by smashing weaker crops into oblivion like 187.).
It's a matter of loyalty and perseverance and most of all hope. And hope is the job of the leadership, they have to sell the dream and keep it alive in their players minds and hearts.
0.02 isk.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
731
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:03:00 -
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I'm glad you got some of this on video. This is why you dont get new people coming into PC (Or at least one of the many reasons). Who wants to play a broken ass game mode like that?
Bugs and just general problems of this nature is one of the many reasons why DUST in general has a small player base. That is before we even go anywhere near balance issues in the game.
If in 1.8 CCP doesn't make a REAL effort to balance and fix problems then I swear what little of the player base remains will also leave. Its sad, I hope this game lives on and becomes great but right now I just dont have faith in CCP. |
Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1737
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:09:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:dwater wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy. The last time you fought your own battle i was there
With 10+ ringers.
Patrick57 Carries us all
Tanker Prof. V scrub
Q_Q moar
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
840
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:16:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:All corps are made different with different plans for where they want to go with there dust life. Zatara has a good eye for talent and has put together a solid corp when no one thought he could. Some new corps rush into PC when there guys are not ready and have to hire ringers for every fight they have which does not teach them anything.
And equally a lot of corps dilly dally for so long that they get nothing done and get left behind. Spend too much time 'training' and you won't get anything done! There is a fine line which is hard to find for a lot of corporations
Director // Major // BurgezzE.T.F
Challenge me to Thunderdome.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2266
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:18:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:dwater wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy. The last time you fought your own battle i was there With 10+ ringers.
Pretty sure I saw a dragon as well. Nerf KEQ.
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1737
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:27:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:dwater wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy. The last time you fought your own battle i was there With 10+ ringers. Pretty sure I saw a dragon as well. Nerf KEQ.
I was too busy jumping out of the MCC hitting my inertial dampeners and dying when I hit the ground anyway to notice said dragon.
Patrick57 Carries us all
Tanker Prof. V scrub
Q_Q moar
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
294
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:30:00 -
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Some corps just don't understand that you won't learn if you don't lose. If all you do is hire FA/AE out when on the verge of a flip them you wont learn anything.
Some people just don't deserve anything outside of PFC.
Corp: Fatal Absolution
Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Aim Assist = Persuers
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
981
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:59:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:All corps are made different with different plans for where they want to go with there dust life. Zatara has a good eye for talent and has put together a solid corp when no one thought he could. Some new corps rush into PC when there guys are not ready and have to hire ringers for every fight they have which does not teach them anything.
Very good point.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
562
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Posted - 2014.02.21 13:07:00 -
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yea man i felt the same way when it was Anon vs everyone elses corps.
we attack one corp and fight the entire dust community because people where afraid of losing. but how can you win when ur not familiar with losing was always my question.
we didnt get to join pfc when we started we got told to fight eon. and at the time our skill lvl was **** compared to the corps in eon. but we did fight eon and we kept trying till we started winning some and losing alot. practice makes perfect in a real players way of thinking. but other corps just want to farm and not get their hands dirty.
why own a district if your not ready to fight for it? how exactly will you get better? because pubs dont and wont help u.
I Sware It Wasnt Me
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1168
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Posted - 2014.02.21 13:12:00 -
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Wolfica wrote:Like today roner going 28/6 in a shotty scout armer stacked and damped.
You let roner's slow ass scout get 28 kills... ? 5 bursts at most from my specialist CR puts him down before he can even land a hit on my shields its usually 2-3 if I land a dome shot.
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
840
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Posted - 2014.02.21 13:43:00 -
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Knight Solitaire wrote:Some corps just don't understand that you won't learn if you don't lose. If all you do is hire FA/AE out when on the verge of a flip them you wont learn anything.
Some people just don't deserve anything outside of PFC.
Exactamundo
Director // Major // BurgezzE.T.F
Challenge me to Thunderdome.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution
766
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Posted - 2014.02.21 13:54:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH.
... and either field 10+ ringers or get redlined. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2900
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:05:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH.
Why do you think smaller corps would start doing PC if locking is fixed?
Makes no sense to me.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2900
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:15:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Salviatino Maiano wrote:The entire fight your opponent until you can beat them is a nice thought. Reality is that trying to build up a small corp into PC is close to impossible requires more time in this game than any Dev has ever seen and the constant vigilance to suffer defeats not only on the battlefield but within the corp.
Any time a great player shows up in a small corp they take the beatings until they decide losing isn't fun any more and they promptly leave for larger more well known corps. The talent isn't spread out enough and there isn't enough new talent to begin anew. You can't expect a new corp to progress unless they have the chance to build a fighting group. if they are the same group getting beaten over and over its not a question of whether they have the balls or not, its a question of whether or not they have the sanity to know when to stop..... it is only a game. I dunno took about 3 weeks for me to find enough talent. It's all there in the pubs. Thankfully you have people like 843 Bane and Calisk and xDestruction and Carlos and Fusion Commander and Unique Id that are just 2 examples of people from 3 corps who operate (generally) on a completely different plane than the vast majority of their peers. But despite the people around them not being in the same caliber as them, they stick it out and carry those teams to places they otherwise couldn't reach. Immagine if Kalente had quit AE because after a month of fighting TP AE's record was 4 wins and 13 losses and having been kicked from PC 3x (and only getting in by smashing weaker crops into oblivion like 187.). It's a matter of loyalty and perseverance and most of all hope. And hope is the job of the leadership, they have to sell the dream and keep it alive in their players minds and hearts. 0.02 isk.
With the mechanics of PC as they stand we'll only continue to see small groups of A Teams, whether it's a corp or an alliance dominate.
Now if the timers and the cost of clone packs were different you might see more action from the Dust community.
That and some form of team deploy to allow teams to actually practice in a team setting.
Expecting the other 95% of the player base to figure it out in a few weeks while spending 100s of millions of ISK only to see their corp mates bail to the PC corps that just stomped their faces off is crazy.
Until the people of this war room are more open to lowering the bar a bit with mechanics then PC will only get worse.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Eugene Killmore
Red Star.
EoN.
319
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:23:00 -
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Ringer corps complaining about ringers 
Space biggie said "More ISK More Problems"
Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2223
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:30:00 -
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There is only one goal in PC:
to create a ISK pile so high, that you can niether see nor smell the peasent scum below you.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2790
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:30:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:Yeah, we've lost plenty, but we've had some awesome victories. Honestly, if I was a new corp, I wouldn't bother with PC until it's 'fixed'. It's a pain in the ass to snipe a district and it's way expensive to clone pack your way into a district. I mean, I guess you could buy a district but where's the fun in that?
well here's a good question.
Allow me to answer it.
Why buy a district?
Texas is right, it IS a pain in the ass to 'snipe' a district. the odds are also stacked against you when attempting to conquer a district thru several clone pack attacks.
Simple math here. 36 million per clone pack. minimum 2 of those, but realistically a lot more. The odds of winning 2-3 clone pack attacks in succession is minimal, as current landholders have what? ISK.
Mercenaries gone Wild in Molden Heath, as everyone has said, so sure maybe u win 1 to 2 matches then that 2nd or 3rd attack where you're geared to flip the district and BAM.. 15 NF show up, or FA, or AE.
I don't care who you are, you aren't beating ANY of us with a clone pack.
your 120 clones are simply not enough vs the top mercenaries in this game.
Its RARELY enough when we go at each other (like I think maybe once?)
these mercenaries are where they are because they KILL..
our current record is cloning a full hub in 2 matches.. that's an AVERAGE 225 kills per match...
purchase a district, while not cheap, is still cheaper and a guarantee of you having land.
Included is a free class on PC mechanics so you don't go in blind.
Of course you are on your own after than, but clone count is the 'key' to Planetary Conquest.
Just ask rampage who sends 444 clones from a full hub, 11 jumps away to hit a district where 196 land... when he coulda waited another 5 minutes and had a full district next door to the same target go online.
My new sig sometimes makes sense 
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2790
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:37:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy.
then by all means inform your leadership to dispense with the double locking exploits and try to leave something online, even for a few minutes.
we leave ours online all the time for extended periods.
Rampage jumps the gun and makes a small deposit in his drawers every time he notices 1 of our online districts, that have been online for hours (the part he doesn't realize)
we lock when we have a match at a certain time, or when we are waiting on clone regen. We don't lock to 'avoid' getting attacked, just ask anyone in AE capable of putting more than 3 syllables together to form a word that can be defined in an English dictionary. they camp their own timers to wait til something goes online to 'snipe' our online districts.
quite amusing and always expected, but KEQ, double locking and more diligent about making sure they DONT get attacked than doing anything else.
remember when u point the finger at somebody, pay attention, cause 3 more are pointed back at you 
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Timbo101
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
113
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:42:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:dwater wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:I just like to fight and don't care anymore who the other team brings or hires just give me someone to shoot at and i'm happy. The last time you fought your own battle i was there With 10+ ringers. Pretty sure I saw a dragon as well. Nerf KEQ.
We call him Ralph, he's not so bad once you get to know him |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2791
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:43:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Ringer corps complaining about ringers
who's complaining? good business, and its always a back and forth.
mercs = republicans
everyone else = rebel scum
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2113
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:48:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:Ringer corps complaining about ringers who's complaining? good business, and its always a back and forth. mercs = republicans everyone else = rebel scum
I second this.
PS way to stack yourself AE.
So about those vehicle locks...
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2791
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:50:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:All corps are made different with different plans for where they want to go with there dust life. Zatara has a good eye for talent and has put together a solid corp when no one thought he could. Some new corps rush into PC when there guys are not ready and have to hire ringers for every fight they have which does not teach them anything.
who didn't think he could?
I mean the man has been surrounded by talent for such a long time, regardless your opinions he sure as $h1t knows talent from minmatar scum...
he understands roles, and understands strategy. He may need some work in self-esteem and security, but even that doesn't affect the ability to recognize needs and see talent to fill those needs in assembling a team.
I know this is not an easy thing, but 1 thing I can say with confidence he learned in his time on dust.
so anyone thinking he couldn't put together a 'solid corp' are probably butthurt trolls, members of the rebel shoeshiner union, or STB, who haven't been able to do this in 2 years, much less 2 months lol
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2791
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:52:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:Ringer corps complaining about ringers who's complaining? good business, and its always a back and forth. mercs = republicans everyone else = rebel scum I second this. PS way to stack yourself AE.
what? stacking themselves? Might I add we are always available for your merc needs.
blues got you down? pesky peepin toms ruining your lawn? Idiots who stack timers on themselves?
NF can help! just give us a call!
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Common- Sense
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.02.21 16:15:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:
then by all means inform your leadership to dispense with the double locking exploits and try to leave something online, even for a few minutes.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:but KEQ, double locking and more diligent about making sure they DONT get attacked than doing anything else. remember when u point the finger at somebody, pay attention, cause 3 more are pointed back at you
The start of mass district locking. *Points fingers* |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
2794
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Posted - 2014.02.21 16:35:00 -
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however im not the only on here complaining that I cant get fights and I want fights and boo hoo
not arguing locking whatsoever. You would be absolutely right if I did.
1st one to:
Locking pro V
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
815
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Posted - 2014.02.21 16:48:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
Are you able to link to a reference?
As someone who has studied Nietzsche, this doesn't sound like him, at least not in this context.
Please and thank you.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.02.21 16:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH. Why do you think smaller corps would start doing PC if locking is fixed? Makes no sense to me.
Let me help you. See, once a corp can't lock 10+ districts they're going to start getting attacked by spooky 'no-name' corps. The 'large' corp may hold strong and defend a few times, but eventually a few districts will slip. The big corp will try to reattack, but will have to hire ringers because they have another defend on that same timer and can't field two good squads on a Tuesday night. The big corp will eventually learn that they can only hold a small amount of districts at once with enough money left over for weekly spa treatments. Alliances will form through proximity and 'politics' will be taken to a whole different level.
Makes sense to me anyway.
elder scrolls online better not suck. That is my SH!T
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
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Common- Sense
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.02.21 17:23:00 -
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First, I want to make it very clear this is not an attack. I have a huge amount of respect for Zatara and his abilities to recruit talent, lead them well, and to deal with every day strife that every corp has. Zatara is one of the few true "leaders" in the game and shares company with such greats such as ChicagoCubs, Quick Gloves, Kain Spero, Djinn Kujo, Mavado and a handful of others. The mercenaries in FA are top notch talent and they have proven themselves in battle over and over and over.
With that said lets be fair here about history before trying to judge others. Fatal Absolution was on the verge of being removed from PC just a few months ago. They had taken the losing side of the Prof V war and retribution was close at hand. In order to save themselves (Its the holidays guys!) they locked up and to this very day continue to do so. Again, this is not a attack, it is just a statement of fact. Would FA be around today if they had not taken this action? This action that actually was the event that started the mass locking we have today? We will never know to be honest. Zatara took the necessary action to save his land and save his corp from that potential failscade. I don't blame him but on the same note perhaps we should not judge those whom do whatever is necessary to save themselves in too harsh of a light. We also shouldn't be too preachy. Those in glass houses and all that.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2276
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:24:00 -
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Meh..TBH if AE had hit every district I had I woulda locked up as well. They'd only attack liek 1/2 dozen times.
But I really did only begin locking because the holidays were coming up all my players were going home (Jenova, Kenkaniff, Ninja, a lot of others..) and watching RND get their land taken away only because they refused to lock really rubbed me raw.
I didn't want to lose land simply because the holidays. And even when I left 2 districts online they attacked on New Years Eve and Day and I defended those. That pissed me off. -_-;;
CEO Fatal Absolution
B3RT > PFBHz > TP > MHPD > IMP > F4TAL
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
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Timbo101
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:46:00 -
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Texas Killionaire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH. Why do you think smaller corps would start doing PC if locking is fixed? Makes no sense to me. Let me help you. See, once a corp can't lock 10+ districts they're going to start getting attacked by spooky 'no-name' corps. The 'large' corp may hold strong and defend a few times, but eventually a few districts will slip. The big corp will try to reattack, but will have to hire ringers because they have another defend on that same timer and can't field two good squads on a Tuesday night. The big corp will eventually learn that they can only hold a small amount of districts at once with enough money left over for weekly spa treatments. Alliances will form through proximity and 'politics' will be taken to a whole different level. Makes sense to me anyway. elder scrolls online better not suck. That is my SH!T
Firsr i wNNQ PRWERNCE Ny saying im drunk. second, the top corps arent three becusase of luck. theyre good. You saying a few diustricts will sip[ throuh id ********. its not to hard ti say, hey we have to stop tis distrcit fro getting flippped |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
1085
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:57:00 -
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What are these balls you speak of?
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
Now a level 1 forum warrior.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
62
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Posted - 2014.02.21 23:23:00 -
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Timbo101 wrote:Texas Killionaire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Texas Killionaire wrote:If the PC locking thing does get fixed (barring any other 'tactics' being discovered), it'll be nice to see smaller corps start dotting MH. Why do you think smaller corps would start doing PC if locking is fixed? Makes no sense to me. Let me help you. See, once a corp can't lock 10+ districts they're going to start getting attacked by spooky 'no-name' corps. The 'large' corp may hold strong and defend a few times, but eventually a few districts will slip. The big corp will try to reattack, but will have to hire ringers because they have another defend on that same timer and can't field two good squads on a Tuesday night. The big corp will eventually learn that they can only hold a small amount of districts at once with enough money left over for weekly spa treatments. Alliances will form through proximity and 'politics' will be taken to a whole different level. Makes sense to me anyway. elder scrolls online better not suck. That is my SH!T Firsr i wNNQ PRWERNCE Ny saying im drunk. second, the top corps arent three becusase of luck. theyre good. You saying a few diustricts will sip[ throuh id ********. its not to hard ti say, hey we have to stop tis distrcit fro getting flippped
Hahahaha. This is like being lost in a maze!
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2114
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:19:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:
quite amusing and always expected, but KEQ, double locking and more diligent about making sure they DONT get attacked than doing anything else.
They probably double up on condoms too. 
So about those vehicle locks...
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
376
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:00:00 -
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I don't blame dy5 for getting AEs aid you guys at FA are scary.
Only users lose drugs.
Time wounds all heels.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
75
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Posted - 2014.02.23 04:51:00 -
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Wolfica wrote:Man all any one talks about is how there are only a few corps in PC. Well you know what suck it up. From the history of dust we can see that during times of war powers change. As well as alliances. AE started on the bottom but they started during a time of conflict, the FEC war. Then outlasted those in power until they left. Then a few months down the road the OH/AE war broke out shortly after a new merc corp made it's first appearance in the PX1/ML skirmishes. FA's goal was not to be the corporation that takes down AE it was formed so that corporations that didn't have a full 16 man A team that could compete with the best this game has to offer could find players that can compete at that level. But now all that PC has turned into is battle between AE. FA. And NF's newly return to PC. 89.9% of every battle for a district turns into another AE vs FA match. Yesterday dystopia killed 24 of our clones out of a 120 clone, clone pack. Then they hire AE and TRE to defend there district. If you wish to be in PC then look at how the people that are in PC got to where they are. It wasn't by starting some **** and saying your the best so I should get a district. It was by being the underdog and working up but if you think PC is just fun and games and making isk. Think again. if you want to be in PC then be in PC. NS and AE only hold 41% of it. There is still a lot to take so snipe a district it's not hard. And before you attack something talk to the leading corps about not ringing against you. But if you use them as ringers then it will just become another FA vs AE match and you will eventually loose your district.
Also think about players you hate seeing on the other side becuse your know your team will most likely lose. Well Guess what this people often ply PC and you will see them. Like today roner going 28/6 in a shotty scout armer stacked and damped. And if you say oh all these players are crap I kill them all the time. They shouldn't be in PC. All I have to say to you is. Where are you ? I would love To see some fresh faces in PC.
I'm done. Time to run some pubs since there's no one hiring for pc's. Maybe AE will hire me. Would be nice to be on the same side as some of those guys again.
See, corporations are not organic creatures, nor are they physical objects. As a result, they cannot grow things such as human genitalia.
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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The Black Art
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
433
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Posted - 2014.02.23 07:34:00 -
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Wow, this thread is ****.
Sir Snugglz is a noob.
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Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.23 10:20:00 -
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I was talking to Some Pradox One friends of mine for a couple hours last night. All about PC and their little PFC district.
They hired Escrow for a battle, because some other PFC district attacked them with FA the battle before...
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of PFC? All PC is turned into is whoever can hire one of the big three.
I guess it gives FA, NF, and AE something to do, but fighting for strangers' district is lame.
The fact that NF's ERA exists purely for being hired out says something. You don't even have to own a district to be a PC powerhouse. What sense does that make?
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2120
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:21:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:I was talking to Some Pradox One friends of mine for a couple hours last night. All about PC and their little PFC district.
They hired Escrow for a battle, because some other PFC district attacked them with FA the battle before...
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of PFC? All PC is turned into is whoever can hire one of the big three.
I guess it gives FA, NF, and AE something to do, but fighting for strangers' district is lame.
The fact that NF's ERA exists purely for being hired out says something. You don't even have to own a district to be a PC powerhouse. What sense does that make?
What?
What you said makes no sense.
Besides there is no such thing as paradox any more.
Only Mike Raun and his pawns.
Please go back to the Big Bad Wolves where you can act like you are something.
This game was meant to be a mercenary game as well as a build from scratch empire game.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:26:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:I was talking to Some Pradox One friends of mine for a couple hours last night. All about PC and their little PFC district.
They hired Escrow for a battle, because some other PFC district attacked them with FA the battle before...
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of PFC? All PC is turned into is whoever can hire one of the big three.
I guess it gives FA, NF, and AE something to do, but fighting for strangers' district is lame.
The fact that NF's ERA exists purely for being hired out says something. You don't even have to own a district to be a PC powerhouse. What sense does that make?
Pradox dont even own a PFC district... |
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