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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:34:00 -
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A trend that other games such as battlefield are adopting these days is very clear firing flashes and sniper rifle scope glint, features absent from dust with no real good reason.
It is often very difficult to locate a sniper in this game because when there is sniper fire being aimed at said player, the sniper is not in any way revealing even his/her general location which results in often easy kills for the snipers and his/her victims being unable to organize themselves and act accordingly to avoid getting shot.
As the sniper rifle is a rail gun and as in EVE rail gun shots appear as long coloured beams it only makes sense that in dust too rail gun shots briefly highlight the location of the sniper.
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:25:00 -
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It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:47:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map.
You shouldent have to die to know where a sniper is |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
660
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:57:00 -
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Other ideas from various games:
1. red dot that shows where the sniper is looking (doesn't help to find them, but it does help you to work out whether you're going to be shot at)
2. clear, persistent ionisation trails/tracer rounds when fired. I know the existing sniper rifle pretends to do this, but their rendering is sketchy at best.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.20 07:58:00 -
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Scope glint and extreme muzzle flash only exists in BF standard mode. Play hardcore and it goes away. Hardcore is way more fun, people who are good in vehicles in that mode deserve to stomp.
Finding a sniper isn't hard, it's realizing that he is directly in his redline that sucks. And that's where 99% of them are hiding. You can't snipe him back unless you have a real nice sniper rifle with DMG mods so that cancels most people out. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.20 08:01:00 -
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Scope glint won't work since snipers will likely rely on glare-proof camera systems.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.02.20 08:11:00 -
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-1, no. You already get distance and direction. A good sniper is supposed to be hard to find. Speaking as someone who snipes and counter-snipes, NO ONE deserves this kind of hand-holding. |
Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:14:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:-1, no. You already get distance and direction. A good sniper is supposed to be hard to find. Speaking as someone who snipes and counter-snipes, NO ONE deserves this kind of hand-holding.
I disagree, there should always be risk when firing a sniper rifle. As there is a risk of being in the front line. And considering rail guns leave traces in the form of beams in EVE, it would only be staying consistent the the universe the game is in.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Red Whines
459
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:06:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map.
No it's not if he's not an idiot. |
Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:18:00 -
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Sure, assuming we also go with the other mechanics from those other games and get guaranteed one shot kills with any sniper shot, then I'll consent to this idea.
Barring this, 2-5 shots (2-7 seconds TTK) to take down a suit of the same tier does not deserve another nerf.
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:29:00 -
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No to scope glint
Maybe make the bullet trails easier to see
Real heavies use lasers
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
244
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Posted - 2014.02.21 02:17:00 -
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not unless you want to up damage to one hit kills, add bullet drop and fix the rendering issues and fix the low zoom scope the snipers have. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
692
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Posted - 2014.02.21 02:39:00 -
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I seem to recall back in beta that the sniper had clear bullet trails. But for some reason they were changed. Hit markers are wonky, as they are, for me at least, difficult to see due to color and how quickly they disappear.
Sniper glint is unneeded and a bit of a nerf. CCP just needs to fix the redline and rendering. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:11:00 -
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Doesn't matter if you can locate my Thale's.
It's 300m in the redline, and if you bring a dropship I'll run away to the supply depot. 
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Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
342
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Posted - 2014.02.21 09:18:00 -
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Just remove redline
War never changes
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 09:24:00 -
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It's excruciatingly easy to find a sniper - you just have to pass the scope over their general location. Point in case: http://i.imgur.com/Fpo5rPy.jpg
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:20:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map. You shouldent have to die to know where a sniper is
You don't have to. You know, actually look around.
This scope glint idea is terrible. Put some effort in man, instead of just crying because someone has a tactic and you don't want to bother to learn how to counter it.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:31:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map. You shouldent have to die to know where a sniper is You don't have to. You know, actually look around. This scope glint idea is terrible. Put some effort in man, instead of just crying because someone has a tactic and you don't want to bother to learn how to counter it.
The War on Snipers has reached critical mass! WAKE UP COMMUNITY! lawl
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Toobar Zoobar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:15:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map. You shouldent have to die to know where a sniper is You don't have to. You know, actually look around. This scope glint idea is terrible. Put some effort in man, instead of just crying because someone has a tactic and you don't want to bother to learn how to counter it.
It's not that i'm just too lazy to counter a sniper, often it is impossible to counter it or it's vary difficult to know if there is a sniper firing in the players direction, simply because to bullets make next to no nose ( there should be a snapping sound as the bullets are moving at super sonic speed ) and the shots don't even look like rail gun shots, they're next to invisible.
I'm not necessarily saying implement scope glint. I would just like to see the game mirror EVE more.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:40:00 -
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Toobar Zoobar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Awry Barux wrote:It's already easy enough to find them, I don't know what your issue is. You get directional hit indicators, and if they kill you, you get the range of the kill. This generally leaves only 1 good spot for them to be in, maybe 2 or 3 depending on the map. You shouldent have to die to know where a sniper is You don't have to. You know, actually look around. This scope glint idea is terrible. Put some effort in man, instead of just crying because someone has a tactic and you don't want to bother to learn how to counter it. It's not that i'm just too lazy to counter a sniper, often it is impossible to counter it or it's vary difficult to know if there is a sniper firing in the players direction, simply because to bullets make next to no nose ( there should be a snapping sound as the bullets are moving at super sonic speed ) and the shots don't even look like rail gun shots, they're next to invisible. I'm not necessarily saying implement scope glint. I would just like to see the game mirror EVE more.
Break out your own sniper. Rail Tank. Dropship. Squad up and hunt the sniper down. Tank up. That's just off the top of my head.
There are no snipers that are uncounterable. You might need to step out of your box a little though. That's the point. |
TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:12:00 -
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The rounds definitely do make noise when they pass nearby, as that's how I know to back away from a ledge when someone is trying to countersnipe me. |
John McLeish
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.22 04:47:00 -
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I'm against sniper scope glint. But I'm all for making the bullet trails more visible provided they increased the zoom on the scope.
If you can see me better then I want to see you better. |
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