I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me

How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too"

How is using blaster tanks fun to wreck infantry after av was nerfed into oblivion? When you answer that question you will have the answer as to why people use rail guns to kill tanks. If people didn't want to be cheap exploitative jerks they wouldn't be using tanks at all in 1.7.

1.6 was the best time, every dedicated tanker had their own fit wether it be 2 hardners or 3 but when they brought 1.7 out they ruined it completely. On a militia rail it goes like this. Q dam mod makes it do the same as proto 2 dam mods make it adv with a damage mod and 3 damage mods make it proto with a damage mod. my 1.8 mill isk tabk pre 1.7 would make ends meat of this shambles they mafe on the 1.7. Shouldve just nerfed the av and be done with it and kept the ammo too but to completely redue the who thing is obserd

Sh*t, this is a tough one. If you take out rails, Blaster tanks become even more of a plague and assault drop ships become unbeatable. But if you leave them as is, ADS remain worthless, and people who've actually skilled into tanks can lose them in seconds to people who haven't.

What a delicate little ecosystem they've crafted...

We never asked for blasters to be the way they are(only thing wrong with them was hit detection), and yes, CCP nerfed swarms too much, but this isn't the point, a person with 0 SP into tanks can kill one of the very best madrugar fits in what, like 5 shots with his hardeners on? Even with infantry it's not like that, some guy that just started the game can't run up to a proto gal logi and kill him with 5 shots of his gun.

I would rather have a solo proto logi with op av trying to kill me than some noob who thinks he is the best sitting under the mcc with a sica his mum bought him for xmas and 2 dam mods and not to mention the jihad jeeps have calmed donw but you still habe to ve on your toes about them. Either way if i can solo tanks with av gnades and swarms and not die then so cn the rest of them or is it because they dont have the skill to match their sp?

Like I said, what you are complaining about, is why tanks are hated in general right now. My proto fit forge gun can get mopped up by a blaster tank before I can hit it 8 times with its hardener up. And this is a militia blaster tank with 0 sp invested.

Sorry Hak, as much as i hate to say this, this OP weapon is the only ( and Last) thing that prevent TANK 514
Without it we will have blaster tank going rampage, even more than now.

Yeah, let's not put the final nail in the coffin and remove the last line of defense vs blaster tanks.

Like I said vids of you 3 shotting a militia tank with a non breach forge gun (because taking 16 seconds + fire delays to kill a tank is a scrub tanker dead) doing that to a hardened tank and i'll eat my hat. No one cares if you can kill scrub tankers who don't know how to tank/ a tanker you caught with their hardeners down after they raped your team.

Pro Tip: a scrub tanker is embarassing, why? Because tanks are the easiest thing to climb the KDR ladder with next to a redline sniper.

You're obviously not reading what I'm writing. I'm saying remove rail guns and buff forges and swarms.

Seriously, CCP, atleast take out militia. The amount of skillless noobs being able to slap on 2 damage mods and 3 shot any tank is just ridiculous.

I'd rather they do the opposite and just make large turrets garbage vs. infantry. Make the blast radius of missle turrets 1 meter and make the blaster turret have a massive spread. Increase the damage on the blaster to make it competitive against other vehicles and bam fixed. Don't even need to buff AV.

Why? Because, if it's a group effort to kill tanks, tanks should have to fit small turrets and use a team effort to be all around combat effective. Nothing else in this game is as effective vs. everything as tanks are.

Edit: Tankers always happily ignore the fact that they are immune to 90% of the weaponry in this game unlike everyone else. And 99% when they flip on a hardener.

Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.

Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.

How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too"

So, you're saying make tanks have small turrets in place of large turrets?

Lol. Trust me dude, I have about 5 mil into vehicles, and without railguns I'd be unstoppable. I have yet to be killed by av since 1.7

Nope, I'm saying make Large Turrets anti vehicle and their small turrets anti infantry. That's the only thing that needs changing in both AV and tanks, because if it's a group effort to kill them it should be a group effort to kill with them. Their role is meant to be the heavy assault weapons platform. Not the solo I win build, that's why they are imbalanced.

This is why I'm saying buff AV, the only time I've been killed by handheld AV is in PC with CUBS and one of his forge friends shooting me at once.

Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.

Oh, so you're saying you want the main tank killer to be AV and not another tank. Yeah I can dig that

Thank you for actually listening to me unlike some of the other people posting on this topic right now.

I see what you're saying It's just buffing AV is just going to continue the vicious cycle where then Tanks will whine they die to easy again. The best way to fix any imbalances in a game is to give distinct advantages and disadvantages to everything creating roles.

Tanks would best served as 3 man killdozers so that their role as a spearhead to an advancing team would be best served. Right now if you keep buffing/nerfing tanks and av it will be an endless cycle.

I see what you're saying It's just buffing AV is just going to continue the vicious cycle where then Tanks will whine they die to easy again. The best way to fix any imbalances in a game is to give distinct advantages and disadvantages to everything creating roles.

Tanks would work best as 3 man killdozers so that their role as a spearhead to an advancing team would be best served. Right now if you keep buffing/nerfing tanks and av it will be an endless cycle.

Likewise I believe regular dropships should remain transport vehicles with harassment potential with dedicated turrets while ADS should be a harassment tool with more weapons potential or solo potential. They just need to make it to where rail installations can't aim as high. LAVS are fine drivers just need to quit flooring it if they expect the turret to hit anything.

They also just need to make the Red line a bullet barrier that you cannot retreat into so that it will act as the only thing it was meant to be, something that stops spawn camping and allows a team to regroup.

I whole heartedly believe if all these things were implemented we would see a much more diverse and interesting battlefield and it would end a lot of the QQ and imbalance.

Then hopefully CCP can focus on new content like PVE, more game modes, and a player market.

Although the pessimist in me tells me that CCP will instead just keep buffing and nerfing av and tanks and continue to waste time. You can either solo a tank with AV or you can't. If you can, they need to be fairly cheap. If you can't, they need to require teamwork themselves to be fully combat effective. It's not rocket science, it's game theory.

While you're at it, also remove Tanks.
Thank you.

Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.

If you hadn't asked a tank to require a tank to take down, you wouldn't see so many tanks, taking down tanks.
The power of rails is the punishment you get for asking for overpowered tanks, may mlt rail guns continue to blow you up until you understand how you brought this upon your self.

How is using blaster tanks fun to wreck infantry after av was nerfed into oblivion? When you answer that question you will have the answer as to why people use rail guns to kill tanks. If people didn't want to be cheap exploitative jerks they wouldn't be using tanks at all in 1.7.