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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:56:00 -
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Seriously, CCP, atleast take out militia. The amount of skillless noobs being able to slap on 2 damage mods and 3 shot any tank is just ridiculous.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:08:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me
How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too"
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:16:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:PO0KY wrote:I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too" How is using blaster tanks fun to wreck infantry after av was nerfed into oblivion? When you answer that question you will have the answer as to why people use rail guns to kill tanks. If people didn't want to be cheap exploitative jerks they wouldn't be using tanks at all in 1.7.
We never asked for blasters to be the way they are(only thing wrong with them was hit detection), and yes, CCP nerfed swarms too much, but this isn't the point, a person with 0 SP into tanks can kill one of the very best madrugar fits in what, like 5 shots with his hardeners on? Even with infantry it's not like that, some guy that just started the game can't run up to a proto gal logi and kill him with 5 shots of his gun.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:17:00 -
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ebronian flacktoider wrote:1.6 was the best time, every dedicated tanker had their own fit wether it be 2 hardners or 3 but when they brought 1.7 out they ruined it completely. On a militia rail it goes like this. Q dam mod makes it do the same as proto 2 dam mods make it adv with a damage mod and 3 damage mods make it proto with a damage mod. my 1.8 mill isk tabk pre 1.7 would make ends meat of this shambles they mafe on the 1.7. Shouldve just nerfed the av and be done with it and kept the ammo too but to completely redue the who thing is obserd
Exactly.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:42:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:PO0KY wrote:I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too" How is using blaster tanks fun to wreck infantry after av was nerfed into oblivion? When you answer that question you will have the answer as to why people use rail guns to kill tanks. If people didn't want to be cheap exploitative jerks they wouldn't be using tanks at all in 1.7. We never asked for blasters to be the way they are(only thing wrong with them was hit detection), and yes, CCP nerfed swarms too much, but this isn't the point, a person with 0 SP into tanks can kill one of the very best madrugar fits in what, like 5 shots with his hardeners on? Even with infantry it's not like that, some guy that just started the game can't run up to a proto gal logi and kill him with 5 shots of his gun. Like I said, what you are complaining about, is why tanks are hated in general right now. My proto fit forge gun can get mopped up by a blaster tank before I can hit it 8 times with its hardener up. And this is a militia blaster tank with 0 sp invested.
Don't even try to go there, I have an alt with a proto forge gunner, I 3 hit all militia tank noobs, and for the good tanks hit them in between the back two plates.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:43:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Sorry Hak, as much as i hate to say this, this OP weapon is the only ( and Last) thing that prevent TANK 514
Without it we will have blaster tank going rampage, even more than now.
Nah, buff AV, I'd be okay with that forge of yours doing as much damage as it did in 1.6, since they made tanks the way they are now.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:48:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, let's not put the final nail in the coffin and remove the last line of defense vs blaster tanks.
You're obviously not reading what I'm writing. I'm saying remove rail guns and buff forges and swarms.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:51:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Like I said vids of you 3 shotting a militia tank with a non breach forge gun (because taking 16 seconds + fire delays to kill a tank is a scrub tanker dead) doing that to a hardened tank and i'll eat my hat. No one cares if you can kill scrub tankers who don't know how to tank/ a tanker you caught with their hardeners down after they raped your team.
Pro Tip: a scrub tanker is embarassing, why? Because tanks are the easiest thing to climb the KDR ladder with next to a redline sniper.
You're the one who said you can't kill militia tanks, q sync against me, bring your "OP" milita tank, I'll kill it in 4 or less shots with my Ishukone.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:54:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, let's not put the final nail in the coffin and remove the last line of defense vs blaster tanks. You're obviously not reading what I'm writing. I'm saying remove rail guns and buff forges and swarms. I'd rather they do the opposite and just make large turrets garbage vs. infantry. Make the blast radius of missle turrets 1 meter and make the blaster turret have a massive spread. Increase the damage on the blaster to make it competitive against other vehicles and bam fixed. Don't even need to buff AV. Why? Because, if it's a group effort to kill tanks, tanks should have to fit small turrets and use a team effort to be all around combat effective. Nothing else in this game is as effective vs. everything as tanks are. Edit: Tankers always happily ignore the fact that they are immune to 90% of the weaponry in this game unlike everyone else. And 99% when they flip on a hardener.
So, you're saying make tanks have small turrets in place of large turrets?
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:55:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 10:57:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:PO0KY wrote:I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too" Lol. Trust me dude, I have about 5 mil into vehicles, and without railguns I'd be unstoppable. I have yet to be killed by av since 1.7
This is why I'm saying buff AV, the only time I've been killed by handheld AV is in PC with CUBS and one of his forge friends shooting me at once.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:00:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, let's not put the final nail in the coffin and remove the last line of defense vs blaster tanks. You're obviously not reading what I'm writing. I'm saying remove rail guns and buff forges and swarms. I'd rather they do the opposite and just make large turrets garbage vs. infantry. Make the blast radius of missle turrets 1 meter and make the blaster turret have a massive spread. Increase the damage on the blaster to make it competitive against other vehicles and bam fixed. Don't even need to buff AV. Why? Because, if it's a group effort to kill tanks, tanks should have to fit small turrets and use a team effort to be all around combat effective. Nothing else in this game is as effective vs. everything as tanks are. Edit: Tankers always happily ignore the fact that they are immune to 90% of the weaponry in this game unlike everyone else. And 99% when they flip on a hardener. So, you're saying make tanks have small turrets in place of large turrets? Nope, I'm saying make Large Turrets anti vehicle and their small turrets anti infantry. That's the only thing that needs changing in both AV and tanks, because if it's a group effort to kill them it should be a group effort to kill with them. Their role is meant to be the heavy assault weapons platform. Not the solo I win build, that's why they are imbalanced.
Have you ever actually used small turrets? Only the missle is worth anything at all, blaster hit detection sucks and rail gun is only good for AV.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:04:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Or, you could quit Dust, and cease ruining it for people that want a different play style, and go play Call of Duty. I have less than zero respect for people like you.
Spkr... you were the most spammy person pre-1.7 "buff tanks, nerf av" they buffed tanks, and nerfed av, yet I see you're still on the forums compaining? Are you one of those guys that sit in the redline railsniping now? It'd be a shame if redline tanks had to actually use the small amount of skill they have.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:07:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:PO0KY wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:PO0KY wrote:I'd rather have OP rail guns than deal with millions of blaster tanks... But that's just me How is that fun for anyone? I honestly have no idea how CCP didn't see this coming in the first place, "Let's make militia railguns do as much damage as the Particle Cannon used to do before 1.7, oh and let's add damage mods that give you 30% each too" Lol. Trust me dude, I have about 5 mil into vehicles, and without railguns I'd be unstoppable. I have yet to be killed by av since 1.7 This is why I'm saying buff AV, the only time I've been killed by handheld AV is in PC with CUBS and one of his forge friends shooting me at once. Oh, so you're saying you want the main tank killer to be AV and not another tank. Yeah I can dig that
Thank you for actually listening to me unlike some of the other people posting on this topic right now.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:19:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Thank you for actually listening to me unlike some of the other people posting on this topic right now. I see what you're saying It's just buffing AV is just going to continue the vicious cycle where then Tanks will whine they die to easy again. The best way to fix any imbalances in a game is to give distinct advantages and disadvantages to everything creating roles. Tanks would best served as 3 man killdozers so that their role as a spearhead to an advancing team would be best served. Right now if you keep buffing/nerfing tanks and av it will be an endless cycle.
I run both AV and tanks. I'll say this, tanks are a lot easier than AV right now. I have to hit good tankers in between the back plates with my forge because otherwise it'll just bounce off and they'll speed of to the redline. If I hit them in a critial spot then I'll have them down in no time. AV needs a buff though. Milita swarms literally do nothing to my shield tank when I have one hardener on, proto swarms do nothing when I have two hardeners on.
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