Tailss Prower wrote:you do understand that swarms are naturally weaker against shields which kinda defeats the purpose of this thread now if it was harder to kill the soma than the sica with swarms then you have a problem but basing it off a shield tank and to make it worse your basing it off a mlt/std swarm launcher if you was using proto with like 1-2 dmg mods you would have killed the sica and soma with 3 shots easy now if you were comparing mlt swarms vs mlt tank fine but not really a good way to test them out vs stronger fits besides duel hardners I highly doubt was intended by CCP so they will most likely change this anyway and there is teir swarms for a reason
Besides didn't CCP state before 1.7 that tanks would have moments they are strong and moments when they were weak its easy make him pop his hardner granted this is if he only has 1 like say after CCP fixes that issue then wait for his hardner to cut off and pound away at his HP i only use 1 hardner on my tank and I have seen plenty hurt me harshly with AV even swarms alot of the time a proto swarm could take over 30% of my shields in 1 hit when I don't have my hardner on the issues I see is alot are not using their head and waiting for thier hardners to turn back off cause unless you got enough people hitting him with AV your chances of killing him before he starts to run is low but wait for that hardner to shut off and ambush him and I bet you he won't survive
He second round of test was with proto pref 3 swarms with 2complex DMG mods. Took 3 volleys to kill the Sica (yellow print shield boost would've added the need for 1 or 2 more volleys) and 4 shots to kill the Soma.
24 seconds base is not a moment, on the battle field when your primary weapon can only shoot vehicles, it's an eternity.
The most surprising thing to me was that proto swarms weren't enough to even break the shield regen of a single hardened tank.
I think most agree that the problem is the low cost of militia tanks (spam) hardeners, the speed that tanks can escape, how effective blasters are vs infantry, and that swarms at any level other than proto are useless with proto being only mildly useful. Before this build I had 5 different swarm fits. I only have one now because every other was a waist of space.