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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:20:00 -
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So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this! |
Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:21:00 -
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Maybe they should just cut nova knive cpu/pg in half. I mean, they are knives...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1098
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:25:00 -
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out of all things to call CCP out on, you call them out on this
2/10 i'm sorry dawg
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7306
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:26:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this!
And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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CRYPT3C W0LF
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
382
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:26:00 -
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Its a knife, Its not supposed to cost ANY pg or cpu, lol @ CCP
COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^
Youtube, A Merc with a passion
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
772
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:29:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:out of all things to call CCP out on, you call them out on this
2/10 i'm sorry dawg I agree, we should be calling them out on their dependancy to 'think about it' on a topic which clearly means 30-40% of the playerbase. We should call them out on their inability to think for themselves on 'doing the honorable thing' and not screwing over 95% of the payerbase for the benefit of 5% who will leave anyways when Destiny or some other bullshit excuse of a Free To Wait game comes along. We should call them out on so many things, but he chose this.
No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ
Your choice CCP.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
693
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this! And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No. So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ..
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
208
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:34:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:out of all things to call CCP out on, you call them out on this
2/10 i'm sorry dawg Honstly I'm a scout since beta, so ya I could cry about, dps, tanks, ttk, rr, weapon range, that crap doesnt bother me I'm a scout , listening to tanked med frames cry cus they die as fast as scouts is ......BEAUTIFUL MUSIC TO MY EARS!
Seriously tho this makes no sence, fitting cost is too high for a suit that has too little an needs this weapon as its part of its suit bonus, imagine they tripled scanner fitting costs, gallente logistics WOULD SNAP!
It would be 5 pages of forums, so just cuz theirs less of us doesn't mean it should be ignored, a couple button pushes, problem solved! Make the skill or change the fitting cost |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7306
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:36:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:So you want to use nova knives? You want to be a minja an have a 25% nova knife bonus? Ok here you go enjoy............
Wait....
We regret to inform you that your suit is highly reliable on PG even though to knife properly your kincats are going to eat your pg and so are your shields...
And thennnnnnnnmnNnnnn.....
We're gonna let you skill your proto knives with a obscene fitting cost of something like 48/8, only for you to realize.......
IT'S THE ONLY WEAPON WITH NO FITTING OPTIMIZATION SKILL!
So yes we gave you a suit bonus to a weapon that totally screws up how you fit your entire suit and destroys your suits maximum potential!
Sincerely all of us at CCP=ƒæì
Common hahaha really dudes it's been a year hook us up and fire the guy that forgot this! And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No. So HTFU I can't tell if troll or noGǪ..
I don't troll sir.... or do I?
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2340
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:37:00 -
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I fit them just fine on a STD Gallente suit with MLT kincats.
Got well over 200 kills for the scout event.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
868
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:39:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Its a knife, Its not supposed to cost ANY pg or cpu, lol @ CCP
lawl this is not your grandpappy's knife. If I recall the flavor text correctly, it has something called a "linear gravity condenser". I'm pretty sure that's going to take a bit of power. |
Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
770
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:48:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Its a knife, Its not supposed to cost ANY pg or cpu, lol @ CCP But it charges, I am assuming with electricity, probably from your suit |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote: And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No.
So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ.. I don't troll sir.... or do I?
First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation.
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:53:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I fit them just fine on a STD Gallente suit with MLT kincats.
Got well over 200 kills for the scout event. And thats a gallente suit with superior fitting capabilities
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
209
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:08:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I fit them just fine on a STD Gallente suit with MLT kincats.
Got well over 200 kills for the scout event. Your a gallente Nuff said, I had that kill count on my main in 2 days with maybe 10hrs of play , what's ur point?! |
DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:13:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote: And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No.
So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ.. I don't troll sir.... or do I? First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation. Finally a real scout speaks with intelligence an a understanding of sarcasm. Thank you good merc I am proud to have you in my thread, it almost got tainted by a whole lot of people that had no idea what I ment.
The fitting cost and lack of a nessacary skill in the tree horribly affects the suit and it's purpose and has waited too long for a hotfix |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4338
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:18:00 -
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The engineering skill exists for a reason.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
694
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:19:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote: And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No.
So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ.. I don't troll sir.... or do I? First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation. Finally a real scout speaks with intelligence an a understanding of sarcasm. Thank you good merc I am proud to have you in my thread, it almost got tainted by a whole lot of people that had no idea what I ment. The fitting cost and lack of a nessacary skill in the tree horribly affects the suit and it's purpose and has waited too long for a hotfix
I think that if the PG fittings were reduced to flay lock level, it would be exponentially more viable. Currently, a core flay lock is easier to fit than ADV knives on a minmitar scout, which simply does not make logical sense. If minmitar have low PG and normal CPU, nova knives should cost low PG and normal CPU. That makes the synergy function far better than it currently does
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
877
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:25:00 -
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You're not supposed to be able to fit all complex extenders and complex kincats with prototype weapons. Fitting is about sacrifices- you're never going to be able to fill every slot with prototype items. No one can, regardless of suit class.
I do agree NKs should have a fitting optimization skill, like literally every weapon in the game. |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
368
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:33:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:True Adamance wrote: And...... you can fit NK on a Min Scout easily. Did I even mention the ScR has the most obscene fitting costs of the four rifles? Do I ***** as a result? No.
So HTFU
I can't tell if troll or noGǪ.. I don't troll sir.... or do I? First off, the problem is that minmitar scouts have the most abysmal fittings in the game, so that they don't have any synergy with nova knives, as they should. I don't even use nova knives anymore due to the cost, and settle for a shotgun instead, unless i really want to embarrass someone. The fittings just don't work, as you have to use kin cats to stay effective. I assume that you are not trolling, but rather are posting in a misinformed manner, without appreciating the full scope of the situation.
Well, it does come off as trolling or complaining for the sake of complaining. If you look at things you see, the knives are caldari weapons and have somewhat high fitting cost. Minmatar have substantially low cpu/pg fitting costs for their weapons. There isn't a minmatar equivalent in the game yet.Soo....
32db Mad Bomber.
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:36:00 -
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So kalakiota rail rifle, 3xcomplex damage mods, alloteck hives, quantum scanners, complex reps an plates are a figment of our imagination then?
Not one person that disagrees is a bloody full time minja scouts, so go take your bordom and negativity an lack of knowledge about the topic to a place you know something about, hahaha oh YE That's right that's why your littering here lol |
McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
632
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:39:00 -
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CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Its a knife, Its not supposed to cost ANY pg or cpu, lol @ CCP
*space knife
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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ShinyJay
Special Assault Recon
164
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:40:00 -
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lets not forget that the minnie NK aren't out and we are using the caldari if I'm correct. so that could also affect the CPU and PG difference
The bunneh minnie scout sniper, hopping along and leaving blood trails
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6887
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:47:00 -
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Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136370&find=unread
Things of note for the 1.8 changes that are coming: Scouts getting a CPU/PG buff. Scouts getting additional high/low slots. Scouts getting one extra equipment slot. Scouts getting bonuses for fitting cloaks to compliment the knives.
BTW, I'm a dedicated knifer and I agree that the current setup we have now in 1.7 makes the scouts pretty gimped but so far I have been doing pretty well with the following fit.
[Balto] Scout M-1 1x Ishukone Nova Knives 1x BPO SMG 1x Basic Sidearm Damage Mod 2x Basic Kinetic Catalyzers Cost: Approx. 18,000 ISK total Damage: Approx. 1,100 HP fully charged
Been able to go about 15/9, 10/5, 7/3 on average in most matches with this setup and make a nice profit despite the losses. If I can do pretty well with this setup right now, I can't wait to see how I'll do with the coming changes in 1.8.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6887
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:48:00 -
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ShinyJay wrote:lets not forget that the minnie NK aren't out and we are using the caldari if I'm correct. so that could also affect the CPU and PG difference
Well, it shouldn't take much CPU and PG for a pair of prison shivs.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Tectonic Fusion
1072
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:54:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136370&find=unreadThings of note for the 1.8 changes that are coming: Scouts getting a CPU/PG buff. Scouts getting additional high/low slots. Scouts getting one extra equipment slot. Scouts getting bonuses for fitting cloaks to compliment the knives. BTW, I'm a dedicated knifer and I agree that the current setup we have now in 1.7 makes the scouts pretty gimped but so far I have been doing pretty well with the following fit. [Balto] Scout M-1 1x Ishukone Nova Knives 1x BPO SMG 1x Basic Sidearm Damage Mod 2x Basic Kinetic Catalyzers Cost: Approx. 18,000 ISK total Damage: Approx. 1,100 HP fully charged Been able to go about 15/9, 10/5, 7/3 on average in most matches with this setup and make a nice profit despite the losses. If I can do pretty well with this setup right now, I can't wait to see how I'll do with the coming changes in 1.8. EDIT: As you can now see, CCP has not been cruel to the scouts this time. We're getting plenty of love in 1.8. Isn't it better to use a basic shield? I mean...complex sidearm mod or no damage mod...
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6887
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:55:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote: Isn't it better to use a basic shield? I mean...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Please...
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
213
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:05:00 -
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Caldari or not, their knives with the fitting cost of a asmg, with NO fitting skill to reduce pg, ya maybe ur not supposed to fit all proto UNLESS your core and weapon fitting optimizations are complete!
How can this be done IF YOUR MISSING THE SKILL( not shouting lol) |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
703
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:10:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:CRYPT3C W0LF wrote:Its a knife, Its not supposed to cost ANY pg or cpu, lol @ CCP lawl this is not your grandpappy's knife. If I recall the flavor text correctly, it has something called a "linear gravity condenser". I'm pretty sure that's going to take a bit of power.
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
213
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Posted - 2014.02.19 06:25:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136370&find=unreadThings of note for the 1.8 changes that are coming: Scouts getting a CPU/PG buff. Scouts getting additional high/low slots. Scouts getting one extra equipment slot. Scouts getting bonuses for fitting cloaks to compliment the knives. BTW, I'm a dedicated knifer and I agree that the current setup we have now in 1.7 makes the scouts pretty gimped but so far I have been doing pretty well with the following fit. [Balto] Scout M-1 1x Ishukone Nova Knives 1x BPO SMG 1x Basic Sidearm Damage Mod 2x Basic Kinetic Catalyzers Cost: Approx. 18,000 ISK total Damage: Approx. 1,100 HP fully charged Been able to go about 15/9, 10/5, 7/3 on average in most matches with this setup and make a nice profit despite the losses. If I can do pretty well with this setup right now, I can't wait to see how I'll do with the coming changes in 1.8. EDIT: As you can now see, CCP has not been cruel to the scouts this time. We're getting plenty of love in 1.8. Ya I kno they haven't been cruel mackintosh , the thread title is a joke and why are you running damage mod don't you have a proto min an proficiency 5 yet? 1428 damage bro get them skillz up |
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