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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:52:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance....
I've been really torn between going Caldari for situational awareness, Gallente for Stealth or Minmatar for speed and versatility (thinking proto slot layout).
I have to say that the Minmatar has something no other suit can match:
Base movement speed. Strafing is so key...
Other things:
Nova knife damage is boss. So is hacking speed (25% plus extra 5% from the base suit status), plus a bit more base stam and regen.
My conclusion: **** it, I'm tired of thinking about it. I'll flip a damn coin.
Or I'll go Gallente since I have the dragonfly. I do believe profile dampening will continue to be useful. Even without a cloak I don't plan on being picked up by proto Gal Logis w/ proto scanners or by highly precisioned Caldari's....
Eventually I'll take a page out of Appia's book and just get 'em all. Maybe I'll go Amarr first just for hard mode (not using cloak, sticking with Batman tactics) and to be less common on the field.
Keep my skill game up, hmmm... |
GREEN DEATH21
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:09:00 -
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Honestly,
I Don't think I need to worry about scans considering "Most" logistics personnel are going to drift over to the Minmatar logistics because of that bonus to repair tools. The logistics who do switch to Minmatar would be "True" Logi bros and less killer logi blood, so all I really have to worry about is that pesky Gallente killer logi with prototype quantum scanners. Anything else, I can usually kill with my Isukones in a quick 1-2 swipe, and they don't even see it coming! (;
Alts Include; darren razgriz & Clare Razgriz
SUBIS: Scout specialist/ADS Pilot
"Together we stand, Divided we fall"
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
268
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:23:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:If your not using nova knifes dont use the minmatar scout
That being said I plan on running a shotgun gallente scout in 1.8
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Hacking bonus is good though, and not everyone likes running proto and suit bonuses have greater impact at lower levels. If you don't NK though, you lose one of those bonuses.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Bormir1r
WarRavens
League of Infamy
100
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:18:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance....
Aren't minmatar currently faster than gallente?
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1505
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:21:00 -
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I don't think the gallente damp bonus will be useless, it wont be as useful cause cloak. but I think the gallente damp bonus will mean that you can use the cloak more tactically plus the scan range bonus which is smexy as always. with the other scouts it might become that the cool down makes scouts scannable and murders them.
GÇ£The universe is a big place, perhaps the biggest.GÇ¥ ~ Kurt Vonnegut
Ko6, scout.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Bormir1r
WarRavens
League of Infamy
100
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:25:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:True Adamance wrote:[quote=Smooth Assassin]So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance.... Scan dampening will never be useless, you will be able to hide during your cloaks cool down where other scouts cannot. You do realise every time you break cloak you have to wait 30 sec or more to cloak again don you?[/quote] Link to proof?
20 for the standard cloak....I honestly think that the most CPU/PG & Cloaking w/Cooldown efficient cloak is the advanced cloak. It gets 1 min of cloaking with not as much CPU /PG incrase and the ration of cloaking:cooldown is 2:1, where the basic is 3:2, and the proto is just way too much CPU/PG to fit on unless you can but you do get 90 seconds. IMO the Advanced cloak is the way to go.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
940
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Posted - 2014.02.25 03:21:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:True Adamance wrote:[quote=Smooth Assassin]So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance.... Scan dampening will never be useless, you will be able to hide during your cloaks cool down where other scouts cannot. You do realise every time you break cloak you have to wait 30 sec or more to cloak again don you?[/quote] Link to proof? 20 for the standard cloak....I honestly think that the most CPU/PG & Cloaking w/Cooldown efficient cloak is the advanced cloak. It gets 1 min of cloaking with not as much CPU /PG incrase and the ration of cloaking:cooldown is 2:1, where the basic is 3:2, and the proto is just way too much CPU/PG to fit on unless you can but you do get 90 seconds. IMO the Advanced cloak is the way to go.
if you can fit it. Which minmitar can'tGǪ.
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
617
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Posted - 2014.02.25 10:36:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance.... Unless you're planning on running knives regularly the gallante is the more versatile scout. Even with the cloak the dampening bonus is extremely useful, and the increased scan range along with the base range buff will be godly. Stack a kin cat, cardio, precision enhancer and plate in low, with a shield and range enhancer in high and you'll be set. The mini wins out on base speed and hacking, and losses out substantially in visibility, survivability and longevity. That said, I'll still be running the Mini scout, but that's due to race loyalty a much as anything else.
The only reason the gallente scouts seems to be more versatile is because we currently have way more useful low slot modules. Solely by its design the minmatar is the most flexible scout suit 3 H and 3 L is fantastic and allows the most flexible layouts. Now the additional speed and stamina paired with good shield skills and fantastic suit boni makes this a very good and versatile suit.
I surely would go minmatar IF I could live with its design but...seriously...I can't... |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES
102
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:14:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Brokerib wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:So... i've been thinking to skill into minmatar since they're gonna get that 0.01 more speed than gallante in 1.8 and now that cloak is coming, that dampening will clearly be useless. Even if i put 2 shields and 4 kinetics i'd be less efficient... but the one thing i can't stand from minmatar is that physical appearance.... Unless you're planning on running knives regularly the gallante is the more versatile scout. Even with the cloak the dampening bonus is extremely useful, and the increased scan range along with the base range buff will be godly. Stack a kin cat, cardio, precision enhancer and plate in low, with a shield and range enhancer in high and you'll be set. The mini wins out on base speed and hacking, and losses out substantially in visibility, survivability and longevity. That said, I'll still be running the Mini scout, but that's due to race loyalty a much as anything else. The only reason the gallente scouts seems to be more versatile is because we currently have way more useful low slot modules. Solely by its design the minmatar is the most flexible scout suit 3 H and 3 L is fantastic and allows the most flexible layouts. Now the additional speed and stamina paired with good shield skills and fantastic suit boni makes this a very good and versatile suit. I surely would go minmatar IF I could live with its design but...seriously...I can't...
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