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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:04:00 -
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I have seen a lot of videos with Scouts using two sidearms. SMG-SMG, Pistol-Pistol, Knife-X, and the like. I am curious why this is done. Have you tried it?
And for fun: what kind of bonuses would you like to see a theoretical 'Skirmisher' (2 side arm light suit) get. |
mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
364
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:07:00 -
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its a pain in the ass to fit a light weapon and a sidearm of decent quality without sacrificing speed or HP... plus pistols and knives make me feel like an assassin |
Chuckles Brown
55
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:11:00 -
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^ And with that, mustard has ended this thread ^
The Official alt of 8213
Do you pub, brah?
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Leupox Dior
Science For Death
32
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:12:00 -
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I used to run around alot with double SMG's, reason is that it fits my playstyle. In close combat the assualt SMG's are pretty deadly and with the HoF you can mow down 2 to 3 ppl sometimes with one clip, if not you can swith to your 2nd SMG or reload very quick.
I like the extra clip size the Min Assault suit currently has, that would be also a nice bonus too a dual sidearm fit.
But what I really want is dual wield
Federation Scout G-1 + Shotgun
Soundcloud
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
855
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:22:00 -
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I sometimes run SMG + NK but its only good for close quarter maps, and even then a decent rifle is far superior.
I do love the ASMG. It's still very competitive but for the fitting cost you may as well go for a rifle again for the extra range. Still, I do hope they will continue to exist after 1.8 (was worryingly absent from the thread in Feat. discussions)
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Slash Frenzy
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:31:00 -
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Answer: For fun and the challenge.
Tip: Go AssaultRifle and NovaKnife and get effective ;) |
DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
195
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:43:00 -
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Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 |
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
169
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:45:00 -
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The SMG in VCQC can really blasts enemy. Sure thing, you have to get really close...
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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Kosakai
ZionTCD
12
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:47:00 -
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iam using 2 pistols ... its really OP
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
855
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Posted - 2014.02.18 11:56:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 300 HP? You tanker lol
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
320
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Posted - 2014.02.18 12:46:00 -
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I ran with two SMGs on my Dragonfly for a very long time because it was fun. Also, a sidearm damage mod increased both weapons, not just one. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4512
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Posted - 2014.02.18 13:10:00 -
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I want to see someone who equips two sets of Nova Knives.
Because why not? |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
496
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Posted - 2014.02.18 13:17:00 -
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I tried dual pistoling. Had a bad match and went negative. Bridge map Dom with focused proto scans made this more trouble then it is worth. Ill be trying again but will pick my map better next time. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3439
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Posted - 2014.02.18 13:17:00 -
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Sidearms are fun, use less fitting resources and cost less isk.
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
3439
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Posted - 2014.02.18 13:21:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D
The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game.
Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
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Sgt Buttscratch
lcritMYpantS
1690
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Posted - 2014.02.18 13:36:00 -
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Rather than ask the question, try it out.
Scouts are a weird class, 50 people can tellyou how toplay it, but in the end you have to fit a scout to how you operate. For me I use suit scans and dampening with speed with shotty, NK or SP with remotes.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3152
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Posted - 2014.02.18 14:11:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I have seen a lot of videos with Scouts using two sidearms. SMG-SMG, Pistol-Pistol, Knife-X, and the like. I am curious why this is done. Have you tried it?
And for fun: what kind of bonuses would you like to see a theoretical 'Skirmisher' (2 side arm light suit) get.
Two reasons:
Fitting capacity, and badassitude.
Oh, and I want a combat specialisation for light frames. Dual-wielding sidearms.
No.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
6877
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Posted - 2014.02.18 14:23:00 -
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Because knives are awesome sauce.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Marc Rime
253
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Posted - 2014.02.18 14:31:00 -
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Scouts are kinda starved for cpu & pg, and sidearms are easier to fit. Dual sidearms makes sense if you have sidearm damage mods. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3745
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Posted - 2014.02.18 14:50:00 -
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Pretty much everyone here has been spot on. Also side arms tend to be better than light weapons in distances less than 20m where our small hitboxes and high strafe speeds are most useful.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3037
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:01:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Now, stick these scouts into pro to logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D
Heavy and slow? No thanks. Even my Logistics are primarily shield, regen and mobility focused. I have one super tanked fit that rarely sees the battlefield because it only has one very specific role: busting heavies that are camping my objective.
// Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2333
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:31:00 -
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I used to run dual toxic smgs cause it was cheap.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Tectonic Fusion
1070
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:38:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 I don't know if I should be offended or what...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
4625
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:42:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail.
It's just too damn easy.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Tectonic Fusion
1070
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Posted - 2014.02.18 15:47:00 -
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I use the Scrambler Pistols because headshots are OP, and I use knives because I like imagining peoples faces after I knife them. You just have to have good prediction for the knives, and good judgment and aim for the Scrambler Pistol. EDIT: People don't choose the ASMG over the ACR/CR because they have lower fitting cost for some reason...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3065
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Posted - 2014.02.18 16:11:00 -
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I used to run SMG/NK religiously, until I found out that the Assault Combat Rifle was easier to fit than the ASMG.
Now I run ACR/NK, and I'm loving the extra range.
In short though, we fit sidearms mainly for fitting costs. Most scouts are VERY efficient with their CPU/PG
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
231
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:20:00 -
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I moved away from AR/SMG to Shotty/ScP in 1.7, I only had 1ops in ScP but SmG wouldn't fit on some on loadouts. However I fell in love with ScP and have a ADV ScP/ASMG build now as well - Shotty is still great, but for 20m engagements the side arms work well - and while the Shotty is still king of in your face combat, the duo loses little for the additional versatility.
Another scout pointed out to me the very valid fact that the ScP/SMG combo covers both shield/armour defences as well.
While I've been avoiding NKs, I NK/ScP combo sounds more and more appealing - if there is a respec I may become a sidearm specialist...
I think it you are playing a scout, you've already stuck two fingers up at the idea of playing conventionally.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
718
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Posted - 2014.02.18 17:47:00 -
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Badassery and efficiency.
FlayLock Pistol
Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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DEZKA DIABLO
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
201
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail. It's just too damn easy. It's gonna be crazy in 1.8 all of us are used to such garbage, getting 20-30 kill games in dragonfly fit an now we ll have better stats , more slots, and A CLOAK!
Oh the tears lol |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
1295
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:06:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.
Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...
A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!
Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.
So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!
Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail. It's just too damn easy. It's gonna be crazy in 1.8 all of us are used to such garbage, getting 20-30 kill games in dragonfly fit an now we ll have better stats , more slots, and A CLOAK! Oh the tears lol
It's really not that much of a difference: one slot per tier and one extra Eq slot, which should usually be being taken up by the cloak. I don't think that the cloak is going to be as good/useful as some of you guys think it will. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
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