DUST Search - Question for Scouts

DEZKA DIABLO wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Flix Keptick wrote:

DEZKA DIABLO wrote:

Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH.

Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with...

A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon!

Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit.

So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout!
If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do!

Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2

Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D

Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail.

It's just too damn easy.

It's gonna be crazy in 1.8 all of us are used to such garbage, getting 20-30 kill games in dragonfly fit an now we ll have better stats , more slots, and A CLOAK!

Oh the tears lol

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Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 579	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:04:00 - [1] - Quote I have seen a lot of videos with Scouts using two sidearms. SMG-SMG, Pistol-Pistol, Knife-X, and the like. I am curious why this is done. Have you tried it? And for fun: what kind of bonuses would you like to see a theoretical 'Skirmisher' (2 side arm light suit) get.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 364	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:07:00 - [2] - Quote its a pain in the ass to fit a light weapon and a sidearm of decent quality without sacrificing speed or HP... plus pistols and knives make me feel like an assassin
Chuckles Brown 55	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:11:00 - [3] - Quote ^ And with that, mustard has ended this thread ^ The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Leupox Dior Science For Death 32	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:12:00 - [4] - Quote I used to run around alot with double SMG's, reason is that it fits my playstyle. In close combat the assualt SMG's are pretty deadly and with the HoF you can mow down 2 to 3 ppl sometimes with one clip, if not you can swith to your 2nd SMG or reload very quick. I like the extra clip size the Min Assault suit currently has, that would be also a nice bonus too a dual sidearm fit. But what I really want is dual wield Federation Scout G-1 + Shotgun Soundcloud
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 855	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:22:00 - [5] - Quote I sometimes run SMG + NK but its only good for close quarter maps, and even then a decent rifle is far superior. I do love the ASMG. It's still very competitive but for the fitting cost you may as well go for a rifle again for the extra range. Still, I do hope they will continue to exist after 1.8 (was worryingly absent from the thread in Feat. discussions) "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Slash Frenzy United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:31:00 - [6] - Quote Answer: For fun and the challenge. Tip: Go AssaultRifle and NovaKnife and get effective ;)
DEZKA DIABLO A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 195	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:43:00 - [7] - Quote Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 169	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:45:00 - [8] - Quote The SMG in VCQC can really blasts enemy. Sure thing, you have to get really close... If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Kosakai ZionTCD 12	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:47:00 - [9] - Quote iam using 2 pistols ... its really OP SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 855	Posted - 2014.02.18 11:56:00 - [10] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 300 HP? You tanker lol "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"

kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 320	Posted - 2014.02.18 12:46:00 - [11] - Quote I ran with two SMGs on my Dragonfly for a very long time because it was fun. Also, a sidearm damage mod increased both weapons, not just one.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4512	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:10:00 - [12] - Quote I want to see someone who equips two sets of Nova Knives. Because why not?
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 496	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:17:00 - [13] - Quote I tried dual pistoling. Had a bad match and went negative. Bridge map Dom with focused proto scans made this more trouble then it is worth. Ill be trying again but will pick my map better next time.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3439	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:17:00 - [14] - Quote Sidearms are fun, use less fitting resources and cost less isk. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game. Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3439	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:21:00 - [15] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game. Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1690	Posted - 2014.02.18 13:36:00 - [16] - Quote Rather than ask the question, try it out. Scouts are a weird class, 50 people can tellyou how toplay it, but in the end you have to fit a scout to how you operate. For me I use suit scans and dampening with speed with shotty, NK or SP with remotes. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3152	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:11:00 - [17] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I have seen a lot of videos with Scouts using two sidearms. SMG-SMG, Pistol-Pistol, Knife-X, and the like. I am curious why this is done. Have you tried it? And for fun: what kind of bonuses would you like to see a theoretical 'Skirmisher' (2 side arm light suit) get. Two reasons: Fitting capacity, and badassitude. Oh, and I want a combat specialisation for light frames. Dual-wielding sidearms. No.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6877	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:23:00 - [18] - Quote Because knives are awesome sauce. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Marc Rime 253	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:31:00 - [19] - Quote Scouts are kinda starved for cpu & pg, and sidearms are easier to fit. Dual sidearms makes sense if you have sidearm damage mods.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3745	Posted - 2014.02.18 14:50:00 - [20] - Quote Pretty much everyone here has been spot on. Also side arms tend to be better than light weapons in distances less than 20m where our small hitboxes and high strafe speeds are most useful. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3037	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:01:00 - [21] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Now, stick these scouts into pro to logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Heavy and slow? No thanks. Even my Logistics are primarily shield, regen and mobility focused. I have one super tanked fit that rarely sees the battlefield because it only has one very specific role: busting heavies that are camping my objective. // Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2333	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:31:00 - [22] - Quote I used to run dual toxic smgs cause it was cheap. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Tectonic Fusion 1070	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:38:00 - [23] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 I don't know if I should be offended or what... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4625	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:42:00 - [24] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail. It's just too damn easy. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Tectonic Fusion 1070	Posted - 2014.02.18 15:47:00 - [25] - Quote I use the Scrambler Pistols because headshots are OP, and I use knives because I like imagining peoples faces after I knife them. You just have to have good prediction for the knives, and good judgment and aim for the Scrambler Pistol. EDIT: People don't choose the ASMG over the ACR/CR because they have lower fitting cost for some reason... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3065	Posted - 2014.02.18 16:11:00 - [26] - Quote I used to run SMG/NK religiously, until I found out that the Assault Combat Rifle was easier to fit than the ASMG. Now I run ACR/NK, and I'm loving the extra range. In short though, we fit sidearms mainly for fitting costs. Most scouts are VERY efficient with their CPU/PG Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 231	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:20:00 - [27] - Quote I moved away from AR/SMG to Shotty/ScP in 1.7, I only had 1ops in ScP but SmG wouldn't fit on some on loadouts. However I fell in love with ScP and have a ADV ScP/ASMG build now as well - Shotty is still great, but for 20m engagements the side arms work well - and while the Shotty is still king of in your face combat, the duo loses little for the additional versatility. Another scout pointed out to me the very valid fact that the ScP/SMG combo covers both shield/armour defences as well. While I've been avoiding NKs, I NK/ScP combo sounds more and more appealing - if there is a respec I may become a sidearm specialist... I think it you are playing a scout, you've already stuck two fingers up at the idea of playing conventionally. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 718	Posted - 2014.02.18 17:47:00 - [28] - Quote Badassery and efficiency. FlayLock Pistol Explosives and knives are my thing, Call me Psycho Scout Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
DEZKA DIABLO A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 201	Posted - 2014.02.18 19:32:00 - [29] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail. It's just too damn easy. It's gonna be crazy in 1.8 all of us are used to such garbage, getting 20-30 kill games in dragonfly fit an now we ll have better stats , more slots, and A CLOAK! Oh the tears lol
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1295	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:06:00 - [30] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Main reason, until the high dps , AA, an new rifles a lot of scouts viewed rifles as DIRTY AN SCRUBBISH. Now most of us said F it and got sick of dying from 75 m out an figured it's very good range an dps , but still a lot of people go for what they have been using for over a yr, knifes, smg, faylocks , sg , mainly true scouts have something wrong with them and really enjoy knowing that they beat the crap out of a 1000 HP slayer ftom scrub slayer LOGI with... A 300 HP weak suit, an a plasma cannon! Or remotes, ohk killed your dumb heavy with a pair of knives or pistol whipped you, ran out of bullets, switched to stronger pistol an head shotted your over confident 800 HP rail rifle fit. So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 Now, stick these scouts into proto logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Man you have no idea, I felt so dirty as a Matari assault with a MD, couldn't imagine in a proto logi AND a rail. It's just too damn easy. It's gonna be crazy in 1.8 all of us are used to such garbage, getting 20-30 kill games in dragonfly fit an now we ll have better stats , more slots, and A CLOAK! Oh the tears lol It's really not that much of a difference: one slot per tier and one extra Eq slot, which should usually be being taken up by the cloak. I don't think that the cloak is going to be as good/useful as some of you guys think it will. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. {:)}{3GÇó>

DEZKA DIABLO A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 201	Posted - 2014.02.18 20:12:00 - [31] - Quote Extra equip, better slot layout for adv gal, our proto now will be our adv, and our adv will be our basic, 20 m scan range, 3 passive sp for gal, I dunno bout you but it's gonna be lovely bud!
Pickle Sniffer Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 45	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:24:00 - [32] - Quote I run almost exclusively Sp+Kn on my suits - saves already low pg/CPU for modules ( I don't carry nades, either), and like someone here said - one damage modifier boosts both weapons. And as a mostly stealthy/support type scout - a pistol short range to the head or a charged stab close quarters eleminates all but the heaviest of heavies! And if you see me, I've failed in my scoutly duties and deserve the death that likely follows...
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 923	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:27:00 - [33] - Quote mr musturd wrote: its a pain in the ass to fit a light weapon and a sidearm of decent quality without sacrificing speed or HP... plus pistols and knives make me feel like an assassin TF2 spy, i know the feeling. *Assassination is my thing.*
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 666	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:31:00 - [34] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: So needless to say if ur not right in the head than you ll be a damn good scout! If ur border line normal, you aint gonna do it like we do! Takes a sick person to force the constant aggravation of months of instant deaths to strive to be one of the best against OP everything with a adv 300 HP suit an a pistol or 2 This sums up the Scout class perfectly.... Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 923	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:31:00 - [35] - Quote If i'm gonna run knives, i'd run it with my pistol, dat OHK is essential, it definitely limits you're range instead of running a combat or rail rifle... Out of topic but i run shotgun with pistol now, sometimes SMG when theres tons of gallante and heavies... *Assassination is my thing.*
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 293	Posted - 2014.02.18 22:46:00 - [36] - Quote Dual pistol is fun! Lately I've been running SMG and Knife. But Isuck at this game lol
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1254	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:05:00 - [37] - Quote I started running pistols only a while ago. I've gone back to rifles or Shotty for a week but it never sticks. Everyone has said it all. For me its: 1.) Challenge - to hit, to conserve ammo, to get close 2.) Fitting cost - helps me fit better modules on my suit 3.) Cool factor. ScP's sound great ripping off shots. It really entertains me during a match. 4.) OHK potential with headshots 5.) Maximize the potential of sidearm damage mods. 6.) It's cost efficient -The main drawback is range. But I like to sneak up on people because it's challenging. I die a lot too, light weapons are just better in so many situations.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 300	Posted - 2014.02.18 23:41:00 - [38] - Quote Pistols hit really hard for their fitting requirements, Smg's are really good and knives from adv tier and up are really strong. If you're running 2 sidearms you're effectively getting double mileage out of sidearm damage mods, and with small profile and proper equipment you don't 'need' a main weapon like a rifle, because a pistol or smg can do just as good.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 30	Posted - 2014.02.19 04:25:00 - [39] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Now, stick these scouts into pro to logis with rail rifles and you have monstrous death machines :D Heavy and slow? No thanks. Even my Logistics are primarily shield, regen and mobility focused. I have one super tanked fit that rarely sees the battlefield because it only has one very specific role: busting heavies that are camping my objective. I thought the solution to heavies was REs. Unless the objective is outside and exposed then what I do is call in a LAV ride in close, get out, run around with shotgun, if I win drive off, otherwise let the heavy hack the LAV. Boom.
NEO Arbiter Red Hand Syndicate 23	Posted - 2014.02.19 04:53:00 - [40] - Quote no Tears4Life



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