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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:05:00 -
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How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ???
let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ???
think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits !
Its a win win for tankers and the new players !!
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1032
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:09:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !!
and reduce cost and fitting requirements for av only weapons. this then allows for them to be carried as extras and not as main weapons which is what puts players off using them.
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1192
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:14:00 -
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Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:14:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !! and reduce cost and fitting requirements for av only weapons. this then allows for them to be carried as extras and not as main weapons which is what puts players off using them.
reduce cost and fitting requirements sounds good but moving as main weapons to a side would make some drops suits over powered as they can be fast cheep and kill tanks just as ez as other drop suits then why have the other drop suits when you can run the drop suits that do everything ??
reduce cost and fitting requirements and SP cost is better idea
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1711
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:15:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
1: Hell no, tiercide.
2: There has never been adv. or PROTO HAV's ingame, just horribly balanced tech 2's.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
522
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:18:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
yes that is so .... but something is telling me they have new tanks coming out that may off set a pro tank of one race if the others newly added tank in mlt if better or cheaper and works just the same way .
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
523
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:21:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
1: Hell no, tiercide. 2: There has never been adv. or PROTO HAV's ingame, just horribly balanced tech 2's.
Yes there has !!
i was driving them in E3 patch !
they never added t2 pro was what was be for they would add T2 and adv where the glass canons they had back not to long ago that skill was ranged combat .
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1032
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:26:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !! and reduce cost and fitting requirements for av only weapons. this then allows for them to be carried as extras and not as main weapons which is what puts players off using them. reduce cost and fitting requirements sounds good but moving as main weapons to a side would make some drops suits over powered as they can be fast cheep and kill tanks just as ez as other drop suits then why have the other drop suits when you can run the drop suits that do everything ?? reduce cost and fitting requirements and SP cost is better idea
what i mean by "EXTRA" was by reducing pg/cpu and cost these could be carried as they are now but would not impare on the infantry combat ability so as to allow them to be carried even when not needed. the only SL for instance that is any good is the proto one. but to fit that you can't fit your normal combat tank and a decent weapon. this is what put me off SL and put me onto forge for av. if players could fit this easier and for less cost then they could carry these needed or not and continue to play as infantry with a more powerful sidearm. when the time arrises they could then switch to av with the other av players to take on a tank.
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1699
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:26:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
yes that is so .... but something is telling me they have new tanks coming out that may off set a pro tank of one race if the others newly added tank in mlt if better or cheaper and works just the same way . So a different tank role like the lol enforcer for example instead of a PRO frame (though enforcer was techniquely PRO it was worse than STD and should have been cheaper+ put as STD as enforcer role)
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1699
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:27:00 -
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Ever heard of the apostrophe?
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
526
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:39:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
yes that is so .... but something is telling me they have new tanks coming out that may off set a pro tank of one race if the others newly added tank in mlt if better or cheaper and works just the same way . So a different tank role like the lol enforcer for example instead of a PRO frame (though enforcer was techniquely PRO it was worse than STD and should have been cheaper+ put as STD as enforcer role) enforcer was Avd it was made to copy cat my play book on the TD tank and how to uses them .
CCP was like ok tank to OP lets see if we copy what this bad furry guy do,s with his" king soma " .... make a week tank thats bent on range combat and flanking !
it was a good tank and the cost was ok just needed bigger maps ...if you put it this way the tank was the red line sniper tank that the railgun on it would have been 850 m not 600 with better zoom but the maps where not as big as they needed to be to fit a 850 m range tank so raill gun stands at 600 and the roll was still in the hands of cheeped tanks like the king soma
so in the end ccp removes them . but they where not a bad tank and was avd tank
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1396
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:25:00 -
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nah i think tanks either need prices buffed or the average pric of suits needs to be nerfed
that my average adv suit costs more than my soma is wrong
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:50:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:nah i think tanks either need prices buffed or the average pric of suits needs to be nerfed
that my average adv suit costs more than my soma is wrong
prices buffed never works
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3127
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:54:00 -
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What we really need is an AV specialisation. "Demolitions" perhaps.
It'd be cool if each race's version was a different frame size, but perhaps that's asking a bit much.
No.
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1396
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:25:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:nah i think tanks either need prices buffed or the average pric of suits needs to be nerfed
that my average adv suit costs more than my soma is wrong
prices buffed never works the cost vs effectiveness of tanks vs suits is just to different ive always said i would rather they lower the price of suits aav suit cost allot compared to effect and it would allow for more dedicated av spam without ruining peoples wallets..av itself i dont feel needs a buff i do think the suits should cost less though
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1396
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:29:00 -
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a more artistic solution what if the empty seat on a turretless lav could have a forge fired off it any heavy weapon and the side seat could have a light weapon fired by by mlt tank spam road warrior here we come...my methana would have 2500 armor 140 hps nitrous and a forger and swarmer firing vollies as i drive circles around a mlt tank..\
in other words LIGHT ATTACK
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1369
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:32:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !! and reduce cost and fitting requirements for av only weapons. this then allows for them to be carried as extras and not as main weapons which is what puts players off using them.
THANK YOU!
The PC and SL should fit into the Sidearm slot so it's accessible and practical to carry one.
AV spam vs V spam
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Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
200
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:15:00 -
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Introduce a lock on forge gun type weapon. boom, problem fixed why nerf anything when you can just buff the heck out of AV.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
729
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:18:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !!
its nice to have people who read and think. Its funny too. Post something good and the next day people take it and run. Their like children.
Who wants some?
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:22:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:Introduce a lock on forge gun type weapon. boom, problem fixed why nerf anything when you can just buff the heck out of AV. NO!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:23:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Kaughst wrote:Introduce a lock on forge gun type weapon. boom, problem fixed why nerf anything when you can just buff the heck out of AV. NO! think about LAV,s and drop ships be for adding something as crazzy like that.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1639
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:30:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !!
I am the opposite, I think they should add low slot mods that make AV better. Three or four module types could really change how AV interacts with HAVs right now. Modules that change lock time, charge time, missile flight time, lock range and blast radius could really do a lot for AV. If there were a mod that let my PLC perform better I would skill into it.
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Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
200
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:39:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Kaughst wrote:Introduce a lock on forge gun type weapon. boom, problem fixed why nerf anything when you can just buff the heck out of AV. NO! think about LAV,s and drop ships be for adding something as crazzy like that.
wait! you didn't let me finish!...annnddd it goes around corners.
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"How do you say your name?"
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:42:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Kaughst wrote:Introduce a lock on forge gun type weapon. boom, problem fixed why nerf anything when you can just buff the heck out of AV. NO! think about LAV,s and drop ships be for adding something as crazzy like that. wait! you didn't let me finish!...annnddd it goes around corners. Got better things to kill then you ! *BOOM* *rail guns down a tank and keeps driving on*
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1713
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:49:00 -
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That would undermine it as a role in the game.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
531
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:58:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:That would undermine it as a role in the game. how ?
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1705
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:04:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
yes that is so .... but something is telling me they have new tanks coming out that may off set a pro tank of one race if the others newly added tank in mlt if better or cheaper and works just the same way . So a different tank role like the lol enforcer for example instead of a PRO frame (though enforcer was techniquely PRO it was worse than STD and should have been cheaper+ put as STD as enforcer role) enforcer was Avd it was made to copy cat my play book on the TD tank and how to uses them . CCP was like ok tank to OP lets see if we copy what this bad furry guy do,s with his" king soma " .... make a week tank thats bent on range combat and flanking ! it was a good tank and the cost was ok just needed bigger maps ...if you put it this way the tank was the red line sniper tank that the railgun on it would have been 850 m not 600 with better zoom but the maps where not as big as they needed to be to fit a 850 m range tank so raill gun stands at 600 and the roll was still in the hands of cheeped tanks like the king soma so in the end ccp removes them . but they where not a bad tank and was avd tank But it was a range buff/zoom buff/damage buff for blasters. I remember it being meta lvl6 and having the PRO symbol. If CCP listened to the community then you could claim credit
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4300
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:05:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:How bout we just lower the Cost of skill points needed to skill in to AV ??? let me know what you guys think like you only need 1mill sp to max out everything in SL ??? think about it AV is the same new players dont need to spend all there sp only in AV to fight tanks and can uses the sp they save for running around and killing other drop suits ! Its a win win for tankers and the new players !! and reduce cost and fitting requirements for av only weapons. this then allows for them to be carried as extras and not as main weapons which is what puts players off using them. True that.
You can bring a Proto Swarm Launcher, with three Complex damage mods, CPU enhancer and CPU enhancer, and you will do great against vehicles. Deal is the first yahoo with a MAR will kill you in .15 seconds.
Infantry AV is just not worth it.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
532
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:09:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Honestly, I just think CCP needs to finally introduce (or reintroduce) adv and proto tanks. The main issue is they are trying to balance prototype AV against militia and standard tanks.
yes that is so .... but something is telling me they have new tanks coming out that may off set a pro tank of one race if the others newly added tank in mlt if better or cheaper and works just the same way . So a different tank role like the lol enforcer for example instead of a PRO frame (though enforcer was techniquely PRO it was worse than STD and should have been cheaper+ put as STD as enforcer role) enforcer was Avd it was made to copy cat my play book on the TD tank and how to uses them . CCP was like ok tank to OP lets see if we copy what this bad furry guy do,s with his" king soma " .... make a week tank thats bent on range combat and flanking ! it was a good tank and the cost was ok just needed bigger maps ...if you put it this way the tank was the red line sniper tank that the railgun on it would have been 850 m not 600 with better zoom but the maps where not as big as they needed to be to fit a 850 m range tank so raill gun stands at 600 and the roll was still in the hands of cheeped tanks like the king soma so in the end ccp removes them . but they where not a bad tank and was avd tank But it was a range buff/zoom buff/damage buff for blasters. I remember it being meta lvl6 and having the PRO symbol. If CCP listened to the community then you could claim credit
no they did that do to my skill in the king soma they make the pro tanks sound OP id blow em up with the MLt tanks soma .... its why dmg mods go now into hi slots not lows
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1706
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:20:00 -
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Imagine DMG mods in the low slots my Gunnlogi would have an orgy tank+cannon ^
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