DUST Search - Make NKs deal 100% damage to vehicles

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

That's....pretty useless.
Fully loaded knife hit is 250 damage. (appro)
It takes time and make the holder unable to run making it HARD to follow the tanks.
and the third camera make the tank able to see it.

You think a 250 damage (if lucky) on a tank would be useful ?

Swarms are 220 x 5 (ADV) and are almost useless.
Plasma cannon is 1000 of damage and as everybody know it it's pretty useless against a tank that is not AFK.....

If you want melee weapons to affect vehicules it must not be on pure damage.
But !

I think each melee weapon of each race could apply a special debuff on vehicules hit.

Caldari (NK) : Sparks from the knife makes the Main turret instantly Overheat. Turret must have cooldowned before Re-applyng the overheat.
Gallente : Makes the scan of the tank totally disabled, no information on Map for 30/60sec. / Tank is spotted for same time.
Minmatarr : Tank speed is reduced to 20% of normal speed for 10sec (keep hitting it to reduce the tank speed as long as you hit.)
Amarr : Laser tech makes melt the "defensive" of tanks making them takes 20% more damage for 25sec.

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Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 678	Posted - 2014.02.16 17:36:00 - [1] - Quote You heard me. If a tanker sits still long enough, I want to be able to cut them out of that metal box.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 14	Posted - 2014.02.16 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote +1 because of the lvl of bad @ssery it would take
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2097	Posted - 2014.02.16 17:52:00 - [3] - Quote Yep. No idea on my guns right now. Getting majority to level 3 at least, then deciding. Proud member of RND
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4293	Posted - 2014.02.16 18:02:00 - [4] - Quote Do it. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 3648	Posted - 2014.02.16 18:22:00 - [6] - Quote Hilarious. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 819	Posted - 2014.02.16 18:22:00 - [7] - Quote That would be pretty amazing actually. I fully support this idea. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 305	Posted - 2014.02.16 18:25:00 - [8] - Quote DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 563	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:04:00 - [9] - Quote Not to mention that anyone who's in knife range when they kill it will likely die from the explosion on the tank (unless all medium suits start running NKs as their AV option, lulz). I contribute nothing.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 684	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:11:00 - [10] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Not to mention that anyone who's in knife range when they kill it will likely die from the explosion on the tank (unless all medium suits start running NKs as their AV option, lulz). Worth it.

Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 366	Posted - 2014.02.16 19:31:00 - [11] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: You heard me. If a tanker sits still long enough, I want to be able to cut them out of that metal box. It would obviously be funny to see but I disagree . I think you should be that you can disable turrets with nove knifes. Makes more sense. Veteran Pilot "Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Never.Surrender 448	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:17:00 - [12] - Quote That's....pretty useless. Fully loaded knife hit is 250 damage. (appro) It takes time and make the holder unable to run making it HARD to follow the tanks. and the third camera make the tank able to see it. You think a 250 damage (if lucky) on a tank would be useful ? Swarms are 220 x 5 (ADV) and are almost useless. Plasma cannon is 1000 of damage and as everybody know it it's pretty useless against a tank that is not AFK..... If you want melee weapons to affect vehicules it must not be on pure damage. But ! I think each melee weapon of each race could apply a special debuff on vehicules hit. Caldari (NK) : Sparks from the knife makes the Main turret instantly Overheat. Turret must have cooldowned before Re-applyng the overheat. Gallente : Makes the scan of the tank totally disabled, no information on Map for 30/60sec. / Tank is spotted for same time. Minmatarr : Tank speed is reduced to 20% of normal speed for 10sec (keep hitting it to reduce the tank speed as long as you hit.) Amarr : Laser tech makes melt the "defensive" of tanks making them takes 20% more damage for 25sec.
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 194	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:19:00 - [13] - Quote NK, then av grenade. Let's do it.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4295	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:22:00 - [14] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's....pretty useless. Fully loaded knife hit is 250 damage. (appro) It takes time and make the holder unable to run making it HARD to follow the tanks. and the third camera make the tank able to see it. You think a 250 damage (if lucky) on a tank would be useful ? Swarms are 220 x 5 (ADV) and are almost useless. Plasma cannon is 1000 of damage and as everybody know it it's pretty useless against a tank that is not AFK..... If you want melee weapons to affect vehicules it must not be on pure damage. But ! I think each melee weapon of each race could apply a special debuff on vehicules hit. Caldari (NK) : Sparks from the knife makes the Main turret instantly Overheat. Turret must have cooldowned before Re-applyng the overheat. Gallente : Makes the scan of the tank totally disabled, no information on Map for 30/60sec. / Tank is spotted for same time. Minmatarr : Tank speed is reduced to 20% of normal speed for 10sec (keep hitting it to reduce the tank speed as long as you hit.) Amarr : Laser tech makes melt the "defensive" of tanks making them takes 20% more damage for 25sec. Actually, a fully charged Ishukone Proto Pair of Knives do more than 1000 damage easy. If you use a Proto Minmatar Scout and Three Complex Damage Mods you would be doing more damage than a Forge gun. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 685	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:25:00 - [15] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's....pretty useless. Fully loaded knife hit is 250 damage. (appro) It takes time and make the holder unable to run making it HARD to follow the tanks. and the third camera make the tank able to see it. You think a 250 damage (if lucky) on a tank would be useful ? Swarms are 220 x 5 (ADV) and are almost useless. Plasma cannon is 1000 of damage and as everybody know it it's pretty useless against a tank that is not AFK..... If you want melee weapons to affect vehicules it must not be on pure damage. But ! I think each melee weapon of each race could apply a special debuff on vehicules hit. Caldari (NK) : Sparks from the knife makes the Main turret instantly Overheat. Turret must have cooldowned before Re-applyng the overheat. Gallente : Makes the scan of the tank totally disabled, no information on Map for 30/60sec. / Tank is spotted for same time. Minmatarr : Tank speed is reduced to 20% of normal speed for 10sec (keep hitting it to reduce the tank speed as long as you hit.) Amarr : Laser tech makes melt the "defensive" of tanks making them takes 20% more damage for 25sec. Uh, what are you talking about with damage? You've obviously never actually used NKs, or even really seen them used... a proto Minja with proto knives will hit with 2 charged swipes (each trigger tap / charge = 2 swipes) for upwards of 1200 damage, or more than a militia FG. With a 0.8 second charge time, you could slice through an unhardened Madrugar before a breach forge has even finished charging. NKs out-damage every weapon in the game, if you can get into melee range. Also, this really isn't meant to be useful suggestion for serious AVing, just a fun thing that would only require CCP to change a few numbers in their database.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 685	Posted - 2014.02.16 20:28:00 - [16] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: NK, then av grenade. Let's do it. AV grenades? Naw. If I'm in melee range of the tank, it's remote -> remote -> remote -> slash slash -> slash slash -> detonate = hardened Madrugar goes boom, and deserves it for not noticing me.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6854	Posted - 2014.02.16 21:40:00 - [17] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: That's....pretty useless. Fully loaded knife hit is 250 damage. (appro) It takes time and make the holder unable to run making it HARD to follow the tanks. and the third camera make the tank able to see it. You think a 250 damage (if lucky) on a tank would be useful ? Swarms are 220 x 5 (ADV) and are almost useless. Plasma cannon is 1000 of damage and as everybody know it it's pretty useless against a tank that is not AFK..... If you want melee weapons to affect vehicules it must not be on pure damage. But ! I think each melee weapon of each race could apply a special debuff on vehicules hit. Caldari (NK) : Sparks from the knife makes the Main turret instantly Overheat. Turret must have cooldowned before Re-applyng the overheat. Gallente : Makes the scan of the tank totally disabled, no information on Map for 30/60sec. / Tank is spotted for same time. Minmatarr : Tank speed is reduced to 20% of normal speed for 10sec (keep hitting it to reduce the tank speed as long as you hit.) Amarr : Laser tech makes melt the "defensive" of tanks making them takes 20% more damage for 25sec. You need some schooling, bro. Knives do far more damage than that. 1. Knives have double strike due to the fact that each NK sidearm carries a pair of knives. 2. The base stat that you see in the info screen is the base stat of the weapon PER BLADE and BEFORE charging them. 3. Fully charged knives do at least 2x damage. ZN-28 Nova Knives have a base stat of 150 HP. With double strike, that equals 300 HP per attack. Fully charged, they deal a combined total of 600 HP per attack. With maxed out Minmatar Scout Dropsuit skill (5% per level = 25% total), that boosts the knives to 750 HP fully charged. NOTE: All this is before applying complex sidearm damage mods and this is all on an Advanced Nova Knife. The Ishukones have a base damage of 200 HP. Think about that for a sec. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 827	Posted - 2014.02.16 21:48:00 - [18] - Quote Evolution-7 wrote: It would obviously be funny to see but I disagree . I think you should be that you can disable turrets with nove knifes. Makes more sense. No. I want to pull that squishy pilot out of the tank through the hole I have just finished cutting and show him his lungs as hes desperately gasping for his final breath. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
akira 1999 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 24	Posted - 2014.02.16 22:02:00 - [19] - Quote hmm would be funny... but as a offset, tanks then get 1000 hp damage smart bombs with a 25 meter range for defense. that way we can laugh as the poor scouts get smart bombed into oblivion. of course the smarties would have a cooldown timer...but the glorious ragdoll of dead scouts would be epic.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9250	Posted - 2014.02.16 22:04:00 - [20] - Quote Lol, +1, I support this. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 203	Posted - 2014.02.16 22:13:00 - [21] - Quote That actually makes sense both in fluff and in gameplay. It would give nova knives some additional utility, without making them actual AV equipment. At 100% you still need at least four or so charged swipes, depending on exact loadouts. It's not more powerful than REs in close combat. Now NK would be the to-go equipment for pilot builds, because they allow you to charge the enemy tank when you are guaranteed to die, jump out and melee them.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1984	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:05:00 - [22] - Quote Speed tanked squad of minmatar nk's chasing a tank..... yup I can see this. "But we have been blessed"


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