DUST Search - RR Heavies

Awry Barux wrote:

OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote:

Piraten Hovnoret wrote:

Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players

You al just look dumb conplaning about this.

New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy

HAha +1
That makes question is he really a vet if he cannot kill them. There is only few really good proto heavy light weapon users. All the rest just try to adapt. Heavy dropsuit isn't designed for light weapon. It's fuckin slow people with poor scanning and NO EQUIPMENT.
Use that knowledge next time. Any stupid flux + weapon with +10~20% more dmg against armor will kill him. Or go with dempners and sneak behind him with anything You want. RE are fun. Somebody told me that flux + nova knives is even more fun.

I don't mind if Heavies are using light weapons during this stage of the game. When all heavy weapons arrive we can discuss it later. And it is really good idea to make commando only heavy type who can use light weapons but... There will be time for this. Now let them use it.

Again, I never said I was losing to them, and for the record, I don't have any prototype suits.

I just think RR heavies are indicative of Dust's balance / fitting-metagame problems. Everyone is flocking to high EHP, high range, high damage. I posted this topic after spending all evening running around with a CR in my STD scout BPO and going K/D and ISK positive every match. The vast majority of people aren't moving around the map or flanking or generally trying to play in an interesting manner, they'd rather waddle around with a rail rifle in a blob, and that's what's annoying to me.

I 100% understand why they're doing it, and I'm not crass enough to suggest that they should stop or shouldn't be able to, but I still hate it.

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Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 305	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:30:00 - [31] - Quote Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy War never changes
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1445	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:42:00 - [32] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: I'm f--king sick of them. At least bricked proto slayer logis fatten my wallet and require lots of SP... it seems like every random blue/redberry is running around in a militia heavy frame with a RR. That is all. funny thing is I tried it and I suck balls, too expensive to be that slow unless you're being repped or in a squad. mlt heavy frame? I need to hop back on this account and see if I can get my ADV sentinel! now that's how you act like a heavy rail rifle scrub! with 3 plates! DUST VIDEOS
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 201	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:53:00 - [33] - Quote iTbagyou wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Commandos should be the only Heavies that can use light weapons. All other Heavies should be restricted to heavy weapons IMO. Since heavies can use light weapons. Id like my brick tanked gal logi to carry a boundless hmg. Slap down some wyrikomi triages and have fun. Only "fairlol" way to have it. I'm all for heavy weapons on lighter frames. A heavy weapon would take up a light and a sidearm slot on a medium suit and get increased CPU/PG requirements. On a light suit it would also get increased recoil and extremely slow reload speed.
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 224	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:53:00 - [34] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy Actually, I never considered it from that angle. Fair point. I'd do it too if I was a new player. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 10	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:40:00 - [35] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy HAha +1 That makes question is he really a vet if he cannot kill them. There is only few really good proto heavy light weapon users. All the rest just try to adapt. Heavy dropsuit isn't designed for light weapon. It's fuckin slow people with poor scanning and NO EQUIPMENT. Use that knowledge next time. Any stupid flux + weapon with +10~20% more dmg against armor will kill him. Or go with dempners and sneak behind him with anything You want. RE are fun. Somebody told me that flux + nova knives is even more fun. I don't mind if Heavies are using light weapons during this stage of the game. When all heavy weapons arrive we can discuss it later. And it is really good idea to make commando only heavy type who can use light weapons but... There will be time for this. Now let them use it.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1245	Posted - 2014.02.15 13:31:00 - [36] - Quote Best tactic for new players TBH. If I just started to play dust, I would run militia amarr heavy with rifles to counter all the protostompers. Also militia rail tank to counter other tanks. Its either do that or get f-¦d in the A. Drop it like its hat.
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1654	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:01:00 - [37] - Quote For now we have to accept it due to the fact CCP have not added a heavy weapon in over a year. But when they do have choice I think then it should be blocked. Narbs will tell you that its "boring" or that it removes dusts customization and diversity, these people are mistaken, everyone using a RR/CR/AR/SCR is boring, that isn't diverse. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 194	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:08:00 - [38] - Quote Ronan Elsword wrote: I just came up with a solution that I think everybody would agree would at least help... Heavies have bigger hands right; so add a reload speed reduction that is large enough to make it something to think about especially in close quarters. So when replacing a Heavy weapon with a Light or sidearm you get some kind of "nerf" to that weapon. Just a suggestion, somebody else can come up with the rest of it. we also have a larger surface area than other frames. so give us three times the passive scanning precision as a scout.
iTbagyou Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 210	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:43:00 - [39] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy HAha +1 That makes question is he really a vet if he cannot kill them. There is only few really good proto heavy light weapon users. All the rest just try to adapt. Heavy dropsuit isn't designed for light weapon. It's fuckin slow people with poor scanning and NO EQUIPMENT. Use that knowledge next time. Any stupid flux + weapon with +10~20% more dmg against armor will kill him. Or go with dempners and sneak behind him with anything You want. RE are fun. Somebody told me that flux + nova knives is even more fun. I don't mind if Heavies are using light weapons during this stage of the game. When all heavy weapons arrive we can discuss it later. And it is really good idea to make commando only heavy type who can use light weapons but... There will be time for this. Now let them use it. when the hmg was trash, I didnt see an issue with it. However, the hmg is no longer trash. Heavies carry heavy weapons. Medium and light frame carry light weapons. Official spokesman of Lipton Tea.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 26	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:52:00 - [40] - Quote I'm a heavy that uses a RR, but your worries will be gone when 1.8 comes out. The RR is getting nerfed. I hate to say it, but I guess it's for the best. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. "Yes, I'm a scrub since I use the Rail Rifle" -Prince

Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 593	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:57:00 - [41] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy HAha +1 That makes question is he really a vet if he cannot kill them. There is only few really good proto heavy light weapon users. All the rest just try to adapt. Heavy dropsuit isn't designed for light weapon. It's fuckin slow people with poor scanning and NO EQUIPMENT. Use that knowledge next time. Any stupid flux + weapon with +10~20% more dmg against armor will kill him. Or go with dempners and sneak behind him with anything You want. RE are fun. Somebody told me that flux + nova knives is even more fun. I don't mind if Heavies are using light weapons during this stage of the game. When all heavy weapons arrive we can discuss it later. And it is really good idea to make commando only heavy type who can use light weapons but... There will be time for this. Now let them use it. Again, I never said I was losing to them, and for the record, I don't have any prototype suits. I just think RR heavies are indicative of Dust's balance / fitting-metagame problems. Everyone is flocking to high EHP, high range, high damage. I posted this topic after spending all evening running around with a CR in my STD scout BPO and going K/D and ISK positive every match. The vast majority of people aren't moving around the map or flanking or generally trying to play in an interesting manner, they'd rather waddle around with a rail rifle in a blob, and that's what's annoying to me. I 100% understand why they're doing it, and I'm not crass enough to suggest that they should stop or shouldn't be able to, but I still hate it.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1898	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:02:00 - [42] - Quote What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 26	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:03:00 - [43] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Wow a bunch if veterans complaing about the noobs doing everything they can to survive against proto/high sp players You al just look dumb conplaning about this. New player = low sp= low isk = doing what it takes to survive = kills a vet = make vet cry = vet buthurt = noob happy HAha +1 That makes question is he really a vet if he cannot kill them. There is only few really good proto heavy light weapon users. All the rest just try to adapt. Heavy dropsuit isn't designed for light weapon. It's fuckin slow people with poor scanning and NO EQUIPMENT. Use that knowledge next time. Any stupid flux + weapon with +10~20% more dmg against armor will kill him. Or go with dempners and sneak behind him with anything You want. RE are fun. Somebody told me that flux + nova knives is even more fun. I don't mind if Heavies are using light weapons during this stage of the game. When all heavy weapons arrive we can discuss it later. And it is really good idea to make commando only heavy type who can use light weapons but... There will be time for this. Now let them use it. Again, I never said I was losing to them, and for the record, I don't have any prototype suits. I just think RR heavies are indicative of Dust's balance / fitting-metagame problems. Everyone is flocking to high EHP, high range, high damage. I posted this topic after spending all evening running around with a CR in my STD scout BPO and going K/D and ISK positive every match. The vast majority of people aren't moving around the map or flanking or generally trying to play in an interesting manner, they'd rather waddle around with a rail rifle in a blob, and that's what's annoying to me. I 100% understand why they're doing it, and I'm not crass enough to suggest that they should stop or shouldn't be able to, but I still hate it. Maybe you should try it, it's very fun. It'll probably change your whole opinion on things. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. "Yes, I'm a scrub since I use the Rail Rifle" -Prince
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 593	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:14:00 - [44] - Quote KingBabar wrote: What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... Invisible scouts will be the heavy killer, or at least that's what I'm really hoping for. Knives, shotguns, and REs are hopefully going to be the weapons of choice. @Prince Adidas: For weeks I've been sitting the middle of the blob dropping nanohives and uplinks and using my own RR. It works very well, but it bores me.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 26	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:16:00 - [45] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: KingBabar wrote: What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... Invisible scouts will be the heavy killer, or at least that's what I'm really hoping for. Knives, shotguns, and REs are hopefully going to be the weapons of choice. @Prince Adidas: For weeks I've been sitting the middle of the blob dropping nanohives and uplinks and using my own RR. It works very well, but it bores me. Get a heavy suit with it, and at least try to get an advanced RR like the SB-39. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. "Yes, I'm a scrub since I use the Rail Rifle" -Prince
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 603	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:17:00 - [46] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So you don't know how to keep your distance and tear them apart by strafing left and right, while aiming at their domes? It takes longer to kill them than average but it can be done. Your entire argument was nullified when you mentioned strafing at long range. 100% of people who use rail rifle heavies also use aim assist Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 407	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:18:00 - [47] - Quote Untill there is a full auto heavy weapon with range to rival the rail rifle spam i vow to use my proto HVY and Pro RR on every wide open map, it would be imbalanced to limit hvy suits to hvy weapons withe current lack of variety for heavy weapons, why should heavis are slower, larger target, and currently armor heavy, by all rights if we both have a RR the quicker suit should win the enguagement. Especially something like a caldari, and trust me, u put your RR down or come closer i woul be happier to melt your face off with my hmg That not even mentioning how L slots can fit sidarms ,if u limit one u hav to limit them all Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 26	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:19:00 - [48] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Michael Arck wrote: So you don't know how to keep your distance and tear them apart by strafing left and right, while aiming at their domes? It takes longer to kill them than average but it can be done. Your entire argument was nullified when you mentioned strafing at long range. 100% of people who use rail rifle heavies also use aim assist I know I use it all the time. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. "Yes, I'm a scrub since I use the Rail Rifle" -Prince
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 594	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:30:00 - [49] - Quote Prince Adidas wrote: Awry Barux wrote: KingBabar wrote: What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... Invisible scouts will be the heavy killer, or at least that's what I'm really hoping for. Knives, shotguns, and REs are hopefully going to be the weapons of choice. @Prince Adidas: For weeks I've been sitting the middle of the blob dropping nanohives and uplinks and using my own RR. It works very well, but it bores me. Get a heavy suit with it, and at least try to get an advanced RR like the SB-39. By "my own RR" I meant Kalaakiota w/ Prof III and complex damage mods, and yes, I have tried it on my Sentinel BPO. I'll trade that extra 500 EHP for triage nanohives any day of the week. Still hate it. Edit: Also, don't tell me to join the stupid infantry FOTM. That's gross. That's a gross way to live.
Prince Adidas Horizons' Edge 26	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:37:00 - [50] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Prince Adidas wrote: Awry Barux wrote: KingBabar wrote: What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... Invisible scouts will be the heavy killer, or at least that's what I'm really hoping for. Knives, shotguns, and REs are hopefully going to be the weapons of choice. @Prince Adidas: For weeks I've been sitting the middle of the blob dropping nanohives and uplinks and using my own RR. It works very well, but it bores me. Get a heavy suit with it, and at least try to get an advanced RR like the SB-39. By "my own RR" I meant Kalaakiota w/ Prof III and complex damage mods, and yes, I have tried it on my Sentinel BPO. I'll trade that extra 500 EHP for triage nanohives any day of the week. Still hate it. Edit: Also, don't tell me to join the stupid infantry FOTM. That's gross. That's a gross way to live. Even the Kalaakiota bores you? Aw man.. Rookie With Little DUST Knowledge. Online Almost Everyday. "Yes, I'm a scrub since I use the Rail Rifle" -Prince

Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 595	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:42:00 - [51] - Quote Prince Adidas wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Prince Adidas wrote: Awry Barux wrote: KingBabar wrote: What a bunch of QQ.... Heavy/RR combo is mostly easy to counter. I'm on the other hand seriously concerned about the upcoming buff to the frames in combination with the current beast that is the HMG. Even nades will lose much of its role as the fatty killer, Will fattys be a must in future PCs in the city maps? I fear they will indeed.... Invisible scouts will be the heavy killer, or at least that's what I'm really hoping for. Knives, shotguns, and REs are hopefully going to be the weapons of choice. @Prince Adidas: For weeks I've been sitting the middle of the blob dropping nanohives and uplinks and using my own RR. It works very well, but it bores me. Get a heavy suit with it, and at least try to get an advanced RR like the SB-39. By "my own RR" I meant Kalaakiota w/ Prof III and complex damage mods, and yes, I have tried it on my Sentinel BPO. I'll trade that extra 500 EHP for triage nanohives any day of the week. Still hate it. Edit: Also, don't tell me to join the stupid infantry FOTM. That's gross. That's a gross way to live. Even the Kalaakiota bores you? Aw man.. How could it not? I literally never have to think about whether my weapon is right for the job or what the situation is tactically. I out DPS and out range every other weapon on the field with the exception of tanks. Combine that with half decent gun game and it's just easy mode. Lots of kills =/= fun kills.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2203	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:02:00 - [52] - Quote Non-Commando heavies should be penalized for using light weapons. Make light weapons have 250% kick when being used by a heavy suit. Explain it away with a bit of flavor text: Due to the servos in the elbow joints of a Basic or Sentinel Class Heavy Suit being specifically designed to lift heavy weapons up, and not compensate for weapon-kick, Light Weapons are harder to control while using a heavy suit and their barrels often rise at an accelerated rate compared to the use of a Light Weapon on a Light or Medium suit. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet Gallente Neutron Rifle
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 60	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:14:00 - [53] - Quote CCP saber said heavys with light weapons is being addressed in 1.8 ......
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 597	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:16:00 - [54] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: CCP saber said heavys with light weapons is being addressed in 1.8 ...... Source? Any info on how? I'm not sure that's a good idea.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1636	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:23:00 - [55] - Quote iTbagyou wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Commandos should be the only Heavies that can use light weapons. All other Heavies should be restricted to heavy weapons IMO. Since heavies can use light weapons. Id like my brick tanked gal logi to carry a boundless hmg. Slap down some wyrikomi triages and have fun. Only "fairlol" way to have it. Agreed, But there should be a 50% movement penalty for carrying the HMG, even if you are holding a sidearm or equipment. And in a light suit it should be a 75% movement penalty. Fair is fair. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 201	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:25:00 - [56] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: iTbagyou wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Commandos should be the only Heavies that can use light weapons. All other Heavies should be restricted to heavy weapons IMO. Since heavies can use light weapons. Id like my brick tanked gal logi to carry a boundless hmg. Slap down some wyrikomi triages and have fun. Only "fairlol" way to have it. Agreed, But there should be a 50% movement penalty for carrying the HMG, even if you are holding a sidearm or equipment. And in a light suit it should be a 75% movement penalty. Fair is fair. Movement penalty isn't creative enough. It basically gives the smaller suit the drawback of the heavy, which essentially removes the point of using that gun on a smaller frame in the first place. The malus should be of a different nature. I made a short post about that in this thread.
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 131	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:35:00 - [57] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Michael Arck wrote: So you don't know how to keep your distance and tear them apart by strafing left and right, while aiming at their domes? It takes longer to kill them than average but it can be done. I didn't say I've been losing to them. I've killed them far, far more times than they've killed me. It's still the most annoying low SP / low ISK fit out there. Not everyone plays KB/m. That strafing crap works for them, but console controller players can turn there sensitivity up all the way and never move that fast?! Solution to fat suits with CR and RR is flux grenades and DMG mods. Which ruins my gallente shield game, making me a little heavy with all that armor?! Stacking armor like a heavy just to survive the engagements with the fat suits?! "Anybody order chaos?"
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 254	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:36:00 - [58] - Quote RR is OP. If you see a heavy using besides there HMG there is a BIG problem or they are scrubs. Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 855	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:37:00 - [59] - Quote Well... they're the new FOTM, they're also easier to skill into than a LVL 5 Gallante logi... *Assassination is my thing.*
Onesimus Tarsus 1207	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:44:00 - [60] - Quote The idea of running in less than the most lethal fit per buck spent is as stupid as eating broth with chopsticks. CCP put the stuff in the game, it works, and I don't care if everyone except me runs it. Choices matter, and CCP lets them choose it, to their benefit. So it makes the game boring and unplayable, so what? Choice over all, baby. I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here. cc2.27.13



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