~10,000,000 SP if you go 1 Weapon with Proficiency 5, Weapon Upgrades 5, 1 Proto Racial Dropsuit, Max Core Upgrades, and ADV or better on 3-6 different Modules.

The Dust fitting tool would be highly recommended if starting from scratch.

*I would estimate about 3 months, without Boosters or SP events

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Militia light frame.

Militia shotty.

3months for 10mil sp without boosters or sp events maybe 7 months you accumulate about 400k without boosters a week so about 8.4 mil for that then 500k you start with then thrown in sp events and the fact that theres more than 28 days in most months and you should have 10 million.

2.9 mil for a proto racial suit

roughly 4mil for a weapon close to maxed

lets say another 4m ish for misc upgrades to have a strong fit


11 mil and you can enter the ring


15mil u have some versatility and can actually help your team

20m you are an Omni soldier

30m you're a bittervet

40m and you are just a mean old bastard that has nothing good to say, yet has everything

Is not a competitive fit.

Commitment is key with the logistics class as you will be investing a lot of skill points into equipment and the use of survivability moduals; shields or armor depending on your chosen logistics race. You do not want to rush into things and skill straight into a prototype suit, as you won't have the necessary; equipment, models, weaponry or the ability to fit anything!

If you are considering skilling into Logistics with an alt, youGÇÖll be better off making a new PSN account and make one from that; rather than using a spare character slot. Since SP is paramount with this class, youGÇÖll need all the SP you can get! So make a new account, this is so you can gain the passive SP earned every second (which only applies to one character slot per account).

Depending if you are using boosters or not, it will take you roughly 2 months to gain enough SP for a prototype suit (2,487,360 SP), youGÇÖll be better off spending that SP in gaining; CPU/PG upgrades, advanced equipment, moduals, weaponry and an advanced logistic suit to familiarise yourself with the role and trade tools. Because rushing into prototype suit will leave you feeling underpowered and useless; making you a easy target while at the same time losing a lot of ISK in the process!

Heres a basic step by step guide to help you in becoming the mercenary everyone will be asking for:

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With the initial starting amount of 500k SP from a GÇ£new buildGÇ¥, you can skill into a basic racial logistics suit off the bat! YouGÇÖll need the following skills.

Dropsuit Command I
Race X Medium Suit III
Race X Logistics I
Dropsuit Upgrades II
Armor Upgrades I
Shield Upgrades I
Dropsuit Core Upgrades II
Nanocircuitry I
Repair Tool Ops I
Total SP: 491,260
Total ISK: 1,608,000

From here onwards you're welcome to skill into which ever suits you best, but remember, equipment and moduals should come first; If you die your teammates are going to die, as you won't be there to save them!
IGÇÖll be progressively recommending what skills are best for your next GÇ£levelGÇ¥ in amounts of 500k SP:

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Up to 1 Million:
Dropsuit Engineering 1
Dropsuit Electronics 1
Repair Tool Ops 2
Drop Uplink Deployment
Armor Plating or Shield Extension 3 (Dependent on your chosen race)
Armor Repair Systems 2

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Up to 1.5 Million:
Weaponry 3
Light Weapon Operation 3
Weapon X Operation 1
Explosives 1
Nanocircuitry 3
Dropsuit Engineering or Electronics 2 (Dependent if you need more CPU/PG)

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Up to 2 Million:
Race X Logistics Dropsuit 2
Armor Repair Systems 3
Armor Upgrades 2
Shield Upgrades 2

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Up to 2.5 Million:
Race X Logistics Dropsuit 3
Repair Tool Operation 3

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Up to 3 Million:
Armor Repair Systems 3
Weapon X Operation 3
Armor or Shield Upgrades 3 (Dependent on your chosen race)

With only 3 million SP spent so far youGÇÖll now be a fully fitted advanced Logi Bro. as you are now at advanced level; now is the time to fully familiarize yourself with your logistics play style; thinking about what to skill up into next.

Don't forget about your own tanking skills. Whether it be armor or shields, I'm sure youGÇÖll make the best choice.

How many L5 skills are an absolute must to be competitive?

Or does an extra 5% really mean the difference between competitive and also-ran?

Also, do we allow Aurum suits & items?

Using Aurum prototype weapons, suits and modules, and level 4 in skills where possible, how many SP are required, and how close to competitive can you be?

The SP gap between vets and new players is somewhat of a problem.
However not so much as you may think. Once you get enough SP to put together one suit that you can use in PC, The SP gap is closed as far as i'm concerned.

What's th minimum SP for making a beast PC suit? I'm asking because i'm tooo lazy to look for myself That number is the "gap" and effectively charts out how many months it'll take for you to be able to compete with skilled Mercenaries.

Anyway one of these days ill put into words my take on building a killer clone and ill put everything ive learned out there for the newbies including tips and priority for your skill points

I'm thinking about starting a corp called "the Enfeebled". There are two requirements: you must start an alt labeled FEEB(name here) and you are not allowed to spend one SP beyond what the game minimally requires to get started. With tight squads and superior tactics, I am sure we will win every time. So, to all of the most deadly no-matter-what players out there, your time has arrived, and your place is reserved. Text me in-game to get the ball rolling.

To be able to beat good players with tactics alone you need to have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots.... and lots of practice. Proto weapons vs std gear is like a T-rex vs a Walmart employee. That's why people are able to put up 50+ kills while soloing. They see a scrub and he's dead before he can take another step. Literally lol. Teamwork alone can win but only if the moves that you and, everyone around, you need to make are ingrained in your very hands
Trust me I've seen things.

Is not a competitive fit.

So, you're out then. Noted.

Or you can always do like me. Become a logi and sink a ton of SP into equipment skills and enough into core skills except for armor and shields because you don't think those are all that important right away. Then you can turn around and get enough operation levels for 4 different proto weapons (and several proficiency levels) of which you usually now only use two because one's range is obsolete and the other isn't as effective without an Amarr suit in CQC.

Then make sure the logi suits you use are Caldari, so you can realize after the fact of using all that SP that outside of the proto version, advanced is so gimped on cpu that it's not effective in gunfights usually without getting the drop on someone. So then you start using assault suits instead (more SP now) which work far better. Then remember that you don't have a sidearm so if you're in a match with all scrubs you have to use extreme ammunition management and aiming.

Lastly then you can have to start sinking SP into particle cannon tank fits because when your corp mates aren't on, you have to run with friends from other corps that are nowhere near as organized as the guys you usually squad with, to survive vehicle spam in q-synced ambush and dom matches.

But yes, even with all my "disasters", around 8-10m SP makes you fully functional on the field and an asset if you skill into things wisely. If you run logistics though, it'll take a lot longer. The benefit here is though that you can help your squad/corp mates in all different areas, no matter what they need.

The SP gap between vets and new players is somewhat of a problem.
However not so much as you may think. Once you get enough SP to put together one suit that you can use in PC, The SP gap is closed as far as i'm concerned.

What's th minimum SP for making a beast PC suit? I'm asking because i'm tooo lazy to look for myself That number is the "gap" and effectively charts out how many months it'll take for you to be able to compete with skilled Mercenaries.

Anyway one of these days ill put into words my take on building a killer clone and ill put everything ive learned out there for the newbies including tips and priority for your skill points

Those 2 upgrades can be the difference between life or death. I've ran away in my scout suit with 20 health left thanks to those upgrades!

Are you an alt of someone else?
Because your idea is actually pretty interesting. We would have to change a few things like maybe the corp name and the whole feeb thing but i might be down. mail me.

In terms of being "competitive" relying on AUR items isn't a good idea, because competitive fights can quickly become a meat grinder.

Except meat isn't the only think that would be grinded. Your real-life wallet will as well.