remove magnetism... It's the aim assist no one wants...

EVERYONE wants friction... LDS centering... You won't find many that don't want that...

Almost ANY DUST Gamer who is explained what Aim Magnetism and Bullet Magnetism is HATES IT, then HATES AA, then what the general knee jerk reaction to AA follows...

Because it's so expensive to get a KB/M?

why not just make controllers redundant oh wait, mouse and keybord :D if every one used it then people could shut the furk up

No, because this isn't a freaking PC game!

FFS, get that into you damn mind!

*facepalm* Not a soul can understand how ******* blunt a gamepad is as aiming.

You know what?

Go get Turok. Just do It, and realize what your demanding.

You don't sell Console FPS's with zero AA.

Just like how you don't sell PC games without proper KB/M Support and Remapping.

Tell me ONE game that had ZERO AA, and was a success on this generation of consoles.


Scouts seriously just need to be able to outrun the AA. And have enough slots so it can fulfill the roles it is trying to fill.
AA isn't Killing Scouts, Scouts extreme UPedness is killing scouts.

Yeah, sure, I'll buy it - what with aim assist not being implemented until 1.4 (September-ish). KB/M does suck (I have friends that have stopped playing because of it) but we're focusing on aim assist here. The aiming back then was slippery, jerky and just terrible. There were a few FPS veterans who could aim worth a damn (I had an 8 KDR back then) that would absolutely decimate and in all honesty aim assist leveled the playing field. It didn't randomly stop FPS veterans from kicking ass.

What it -DID- do was give incentive to actually use weapons that required aiming as opposed to Mass Drivers, Flaylock Pistols and Contact Grenades - all of which were ridiculously powerful up until Uprising 1.3. It's sad that the Flaylock had to get such a heavy handed treatment but let's be real, the game certainly is a hell of a lot better without everyone spamming explosive weaponry because they can't aim and having it be incredibly effective because, wouldn't you know it, the other person had to aim in order to kill you. This isn't even touching the factor of explosives causing your aim to jerk.

Another factor back in the days before aim assist was the fact that strafe-games were insane. Sure, everyone wants the game to be a high HP track shooter but there's a significant difference between a high HP track shooter and being nigh invulnerable when strafing because the player couldn't twitch-shoot in small increments. Yes, a lot of that has to do with skill but it's more of a mechanical barrier than a gameplay feature.

Say what you want about Aim Assist but it's not like the option isn't available to you, just the same as it's available to everyone else that plays. Is it too powerful? Not any more or less than other games, imo.

Killzone SF , but it was more because its graphics then anything. Also as far as I know the game has very little recoil and not many people play the multiplayer . Idk what other parts of the game the compensates the lack of AA .

Killzone SF works because there are absolutely no dead zones whatsoever. Leaving you with pretty much complete control over the right stick movement.

KillZone Shadoefall is slower paced than dust in terms of movement there is some momentum by that i basicly mean you are no always going full speed but rather have to build up speed as you move from on direction to another which can make it feel sluggish to some people but this is a necessity for a aim assist free controller.

Also it is worth noteing this is not why KZSF seems to be lower in player pop i believe that to be due to bad no horrific map design. All maps are far to CQC friendly so medium to long range combat becomes boring

The console kids will never stop whining and crying if their aimbot is taken away. :/

I should buy one of those hardware KBM emulators and just melt faces...

No, because this isn't a freaking PC game!

FFS, get that into you damn mind!

*facepalm* Not a soul can understand how ******* blunt a gamepad is as aiming.

You know what?

Go get Turok. Just do It, and realize what your demanding.

You don't sell Console FPS's with zero AA.

Just like how you don't sell PC games without proper KB/M Support and Remapping.

Tell me ONE game that had ZERO AA, and was a success on this generation of consoles.


Scouts seriously just need to be able to outrun the AA. And have enough slots so it can fulfill the roles it is trying to fill.
AA isn't Killing Scouts, Scouts extreme UPedness is killing scouts.

Yeeeh I'd be down for magnetism being removed from the hip-fire. The ADS is a little (emphasis on little) necessary because you kinda need it to some degree at longer ranges when initially aiming down the sight and if you're doing it in CQC you're going to die anyway, but the magnetism is kinda sketchy when it will reveal a [fresh spawned] cloaked player's location by passing the cross hair over them.

Edit: Point in case, this is at 43 meters. Video was recorded and slowed down to demonstrate a bug which would cause the rifle to stop doing damage entirely during a slight lag spike. There is some initial magnetism when first aiming down the sight, which I'm cool with but the rest is all player input (note that I over-aim some toward the end) as it should be. IMO, if it's within your optimal range you should have some magnetism when going into ADS but beyond that, **** it - doesn't need to be there.

EDIT: Forgot to add the link.

Yet another edit: This is Snapping, not magnetism. My bad.

Yeah, sure, I'll buy it - what with aim assist not being implemented until 1.4 (September-ish). KB/M does suck (I have friends that have stopped playing because of it) but we're focusing on aim assist here. The aiming back then was slippery, jerky and just terrible. There were a few FPS veterans who could aim worth a damn (I had an 8 KDR back then) that would absolutely decimate and in all honesty aim assist leveled the playing field. It didn't randomly stop FPS veterans from kicking ass.

What it -DID- do was give incentive to actually use weapons that required aiming as opposed to Mass Drivers, Flaylock Pistols and Contact Grenades - all of which were ridiculously powerful up until Uprising 1.3. It's sad that the Flaylock had to get such a heavy handed treatment but let's be real, the game certainly is a hell of a lot better without everyone spamming explosive weaponry because they can't aim and having it be incredibly effective because, wouldn't you know it, the other person had to aim in order to kill you. This isn't even touching the factor of explosives causing your aim to jerk.

Another factor back in the days before aim assist was the fact that strafe-games were insane. Sure, everyone wants the game to be a high HP track shooter but there's a significant difference between a high HP track shooter and being nigh invulnerable when strafing because the player couldn't twitch-shoot in small increments. Yes, a lot of that has to do with skill but it's more of a mechanical barrier than a gameplay feature.

Say what you want about Aim Assist but it's not like the option isn't available to you, just the same as it's available to everyone else that plays. Is it too powerful? Not any more or less than other games, imo.

Tell me ONE game that had ZERO AA, and was a success on this generation of consoles.