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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:56:00 -
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I keep hearing about the scramble rifle being so over powered. I have not used one so I can't speak from experience. I looked at the specs and it seems OK to me compared to other semi auto weapons. Am I missing something? |
PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:58:00 -
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It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
504
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:00:00 -
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Mostly it is because auto-aim is so strong. Aim around the head level with a charged shot and you can instantly kill most people. Not sure if all the complaining is legitimate though. |
Aisha Ctarl
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3266
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:01:00 -
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It's just a bunch of butthurt losers crying over something they feel killed them "too quickly."
I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2049
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:03:00 -
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It's crap against armour though.
No idea on my guns right now. Getting majority to level 3 at least, then deciding.
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
100
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:04:00 -
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but it overheats, right?
Anyways, I am just curious.....
I am not good with semi auto weapons so I have not used it. Maybe I should try it.... |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
248
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:04:00 -
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It is OP. People seem to think there is skill involved in hitting R1 rapidly. |
The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:05:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles.
I have seen you used it and you have killed me many times with it also.....lol
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1189
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:09:00 -
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Here are some fun facts for you. Enjoy:
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:11:00 -
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Is it basically like a Charge SR with no scope and a higher RoF? |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:11:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles.
Its limited by overheat which can actually kill the user with feedback damage. It overheats around 15 quick shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down.
I would also agree that it isn't overpowered. Even the awesome charge shot that can one-hit kill is balanced; some other gun could kill you in the time it takes to charge a scrambler rifle, and each charge shot fills a huge chunk of the heat gauge, and missing one can spell your doom as a result.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:13:00 -
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all the rifles are OP, nerf um all, problem solved.
Edit: besides the plasma rifle.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:13:00 -
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very informative thanks
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:14:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles. Its limited by overheat which can actually kill the user with feedback damage. It overheats around 15 quick shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down.
Which is why i said "I wouldn't say its overpowered"
But people think its Op because it can do so much in such a short time, especially against shields. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
469
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:15:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles. Its limited by overheat which can actually kill the user with feedback damage. It overheats around 15 quick shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down. I would also agree that it isn't overpowered. Even the awesome charge shot that can one-hit kill is balanced; some other gun could kill you in the time it takes to charge a scrambler rifle, and each charge shot fills a huge chunk of the heat gauge, and missing one can spell your doom as a result.
I've killed myself many times via that feedback 
That being said, it's not OP in my opinion. You'll hear OP threads on the top 3 rifles that dominate the threads today. People are just butthurt something else can kill just as fast as they can in today's short ttk.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3181
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:16:00 -
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Cause that bad boy will drop you quicker than a sponsorship that found out you doping for your sport. It's a beast. It's a very strong weapon. I don't get too upset about it, it's just a part of the game. There's gotta be a kryptonite somewhere.
Funny though, I remember hearing on comms whenever someone got popped by one.
"Hey JuxyFlu got a Viziam, he's just killed me with it. Watch out guys"
If the RR can be considered OP, then you damn right the SCR better be up there too.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3181
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:18:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles. Its limited by overheat which can actually kill the user with feedback damage. It overheats around 15 quick shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down. I would also agree that it isn't overpowered. Even the awesome charge shot that can one-hit kill is balanced; some other gun could kill you in the time it takes to charge a scrambler rifle, and each charge shot fills a huge chunk of the heat gauge, and missing one can spell your doom as a result.
You say the oddest stuff. You can say the one hit kill is balanced but rant on and on about RRs.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:18:00 -
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And is hip fire easy mode like the CR? I actually say, "Sorry!" to the little dead merc on my screen every time I just point my CR in their general direction and they die after two shots. |
drixon talaro
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
10
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:20:00 -
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I hear tha it is op....... And I can see how people think that, especially scouts! Th scrambler is great for shields but it has a very hard time going thru armor. I speak from experience the scram is my go to weapon, not bc of damage but because I love semi automatics I always do better with one. And yes I one shot people alot with head shots but it overheats, I'm a Caldari assault and if I do a charged shot I can only fire 4 more shots before overheat and then I'm usally as good as dead!!! The overheat is horrible and u can't do anything for a little over 4 seconds in that four seconds I could probally be kicked to death lol. It is a weapon that takes practice and is not for everyon, but it is my favorit! But by no means is it op in my opinion, what other weapon can kill u when ur cqc wit someone and the gun overheats and ur dead! |
PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:22:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:And is hip fire easy mode like the CR? I actually say, "Sorry!" to the little dead merc on my screen every time I just point my CR in their general direction and they die after two shots.
It's a sweet, dirty feeling isn't it? |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
1189
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:23:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:
You're welcome.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
313
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:23:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles.
proficiency negates the armor penalty, if we get a respec, before we get it im getting scr 4-to 5, then proficiency
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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drixon talaro
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
10
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:30:00 -
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I only have my pro at 2 or 3 but that's good to know thanks nk |
Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1953
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:57:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:It is OP. People seem to think there is skill involved in hitting R1 rapidly.
People think there's skill involved in holding R1
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
375
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:03:00 -
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Hip firing on most weapons are a joke because of the accuracy . The SR and SP are instakill weapons and CCP promotes this skill less behavior ... if one lost accuracy while straffing without aiming I for one would be pleased and the gun battles would actually account for something but with insta aim and the fact that one doesn't have to account for changes in positioning this cheapens the game play. The only skill in this game are the skillpoints necessary for items.
A child can dominate Dust 514 which to me is an insult.
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
313
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:03:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Akdhar Saif wrote:It is OP. People seem to think there is skill involved in hitting R1 rapidly. People think there's skill involved in holding R1
you have 1 shot to get right or die
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
1383
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:10:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:It's just a bunch of butthurt losers crying over something they feel killed them "too quickly."
at risk of being called a loser, it sucks balls to be OHKed by a ScR. basically advanced or higher ScRs can OHK scouts save proto scouts which require 2 shots (you get the extra second of agonizing helplessness before losing 127,000 isk without fighting back). the ScR's charge shot hard counters scouts.
typical encounter with an ScR user:
"Oh look a lone med to far from his friends, aka scout foo..."
"****" (all caps and bold for emphasis)
"Oh joy, clone terminated as well"
there are calculated risks I take as a scout, I'm the lightweight in a fight of the brick tanks, one of those risks is being OHKed, I take measures to avoid snipers, grenades, and other weapons I expect to OHK me. the problem is the unexpected ones, like assault rifles for example. the standard issue rifle that every amarr grunt is given is capable of dropping me in a single shot.
a¦á_a¦á
I'm not going to say that the scrambler rifle is OP because against med frames and heavies it is probably well balanced. I would like to see charge shots require more ammo than uncharged shots but otherwise the scout suit is probably at fault.
oh an on a final note, to eveyone thinking "1.8 scouts will be fotm and cloak is OP... blah blah blah" grab a scrambler rifle it will remedy to your fears instantly. I guarantee it
/rant, thanks for your time.
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Ko6, scout.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
500
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:13:00 -
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because it eats through armor as fast as it does shields and ignores damage type mechices overall when it comes to TTK.
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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GRIM GEAR
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
189
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:15:00 -
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It's not really over powered until you use it with the Amarr assault suit bonus then it becomes a different story aka scrubs spamming 17 shots without over heating, that's where there crutch is. Back in the day the scrambler rifle operation bonus was stupid it was a 5% reduction to charge time per level which at level 5 operations you would go from 2 seconds for a charged shot to 1.5 seconds. The main reason the old operations skill was stupid is because the skill did not affect the assault scrambler rifle (having no charged shot).
Back in the day I could only get 1 charged shot and 3 uncharged shots off before over heating and that was with a scout suit which has no bonus towards the scrambler rifle. Now though we have the scrambler rifle operations skill which decreases over heating 5% per level at level 5 is 25%; when you add this to the Amarr assault suit racial bonus at level 5 is another 25% reduction to heat build up for a combined over heat reduction of 50% this is in essence where it's over powered.
One day you will wake up and realize that time waits for no one.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
9050
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:16:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:PO0KY wrote:It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, and at 79 damage per shot (no prof or damage mods), it spits out damage very fast. I wouldn't say it's overpowered though... At least in comparison with the other rifles. Its limited by overheat which can actually kill the user with feedback damage. It overheats around 15 quick shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down. I would also agree that it isn't overpowered. Even the awesome charge shot that can one-hit kill is balanced; some other gun could kill you in the time it takes to charge a scrambler rifle, and each charge shot fills a huge chunk of the heat gauge, and missing one can spell your doom as a result. You say the oddest stuff. You can say the one hit kill is balanced but rant on and on about RRs.
Holy crap dude, you're like a broken record when it comes to the RR, even when the conversation has absolutely nothing to do with the RR.
RR has almost identical DPS as the AR, yet gain an insane amount of more range by comparison to the AR. You can pretend that the 0.25 spool up time makes it balanced all you want, but the advantages far outweighs the disadvantages. I don't care about this rail rifle "debate" anymore, so why don't you take it somewhere else.
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