DUST Search - Gallente Sniper Rifle

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Teilka Darkmist wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Teilka Darkmist wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning".

I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game.

Lore limits gameplay once again...

Alright... High damage "bolt action" rifle that adds a tracker to the target. Illuminating them on the radar for ten seconds.

In a game like dust, lore does and should guide the gameplay. I'm not saying that DOT weapons shouldn't exist, just that for the Gallente version of a SR it doesn't make sense. I'm all for them putting in a flamethrower, for example, I could quite easily imagine that it could be a Minmatar weapon, fairly low tech yet effective, or something from the Amarr, maybe something about cleansing flame connected to their religion. Plasma or incendiary grenades that have an AOE splash that doesn't directly damage, but sets anyone on fire.

DOT can be done fairly easily in terms of lore I'm sure. I don't know about in terms of the mechanics as I'm not a coder at all.

But lore should certainly influence the gameplay, otherwise there's no point setting the game in New Eden and connecting it with EVE.

Alright, why don't you add some ideas?

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Shiruba Ryou 210	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:28:00 - [1] - Quote 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 712	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:30:00 - [2] - Quote Plasma cannon. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3546	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:31:00 - [3] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Plasma cannon. Boom SHACKALACKA Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command Patron saint of Commandos =ƒÿç
Teilka Darkmist 256	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:55:00 - [4] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS That's not a sniper rifle then. Part of a sniper rifle's function is damage from a distance. I'd class that as a marksman rifle, more akin to the bolt action rifles that were used in the first and second world wars, except with a scope (probably). It does fit the Gallente combat philosophy and I think a high damage, low ROF mid range weapon like this is something that should be in the game as it gives an additional play style of supporting your team from closer in, or maybe defending objectives without having to spray a high ROF weapon at the enemy. I'd wait to see the rest of the stats on a weapon like that before making any judgement on the actual rifles though. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1883	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:56:00 - [5] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS no because the Caldari sr has infinite range. Armor and Shields are not the same!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4102	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:58:00 - [6] - Quote It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Teilka Darkmist 257	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:08:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 927	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:17:00 - [8] - Quote That's not a sniper rifle. 300m optimal. 350m effective. It would be like the Tactical sniper, but with 5 shots, maybe less damage, more RoF, and I think every sniper rifle needs a better headshot bonus. I don't know why it's so weak! IT'S A SNIPER RIFLE! REWARD HEADSHOTS! 250% efficiency for headshots!
Shiruba Ryou 210	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:28:00 - [9] - Quote Ok I'm liking what Teilka said about a marksmen rifle. Joel II X, no. Just no. We're gallente. We do short range. In no way is hell will 300m+ ever fly with anyone. CCP did say that they like the idea o some Gallente weapons doing DoT damage like the Plasma Cannon. But they also said It's be pretty difficult to do for some reason. Good stuff though guys let's keep it going and maybe the devs will get some ideas xD "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4546	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:47:00 - [10] - Quote I marksman rifle instead of a 'sniper rifle' would fit the Gallente quite well.

Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 153	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:50:00 - [11] - Quote shotgun is the short range assault (plasma) rifle is the medium plasma cannon is the long rnage. gallente has majority of its weapons excluding the 2 heavy weapons and ou our ion pistol.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4102	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:51:00 - [12] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game. Lore limits gameplay once again... Alright... High damage "bolt action" rifle that adds a tracker to the target. Illuminating them on the radar for ten seconds. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4102	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:52:00 - [13] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: shotgun is the short range assault (plasma) rifle is the medium plasma cannon is the long rnage. gallente has majority of its weapons excluding the 2 heavy weapons and ou our ion pistol. Wrong, all are classified as close range, even the PC. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Shiruba Ryou 210	Posted - 2014.02.11 01:55:00 - [14] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: shotgun is the short range assault (plasma) rifle is the medium plasma cannon is the long rnage. gallente has majority of its weapons excluding the 2 heavy weapons and ou our ion pistol. Incorrect. Plasma cannon is still for short range. Projectile is slow and arcs for a reason. You not supposed to be trying to arc shot some vehicle from far away. Try again. "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`
Teilka Darkmist 259	Posted - 2014.02.11 08:11:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game. Lore limits gameplay once again... Alright... High damage "bolt action" rifle that adds a tracker to the target. Illuminating them on the radar for ten seconds. In a game like dust, lore does and should guide the gameplay. I'm not saying that DOT weapons shouldn't exist, just that for the Gallente version of a SR it doesn't make sense. I'm all for them putting in a flamethrower, for example, I could quite easily imagine that it could be a Minmatar weapon, fairly low tech yet effective, or something from the Amarr, maybe something about cleansing flame connected to their religion. Plasma or incendiary grenades that have an AOE splash that doesn't directly damage, but sets anyone on fire. DOT can be done fairly easily in terms of lore I'm sure. I don't know about in terms of the mechanics as I'm not a coder at all. But lore should certainly influence the gameplay, otherwise there's no point setting the game in New Eden and connecting it with EVE. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Chuckles Brown 3	Posted - 2014.02.11 08:45:00 - [16] - Quote Hmmmm... I could see that, but it doesn't fit the lore of Gallente Weaponry. They are in your face armor tankers that use plasma weaponry at short-medium range. Buuuuuuuut, if such a thing were to exist, then a 5% increase to all SR damage would be needed. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution 651	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:04:00 - [17] - Quote Maybe sounds a bit like the Minmatar precision rifle? At any rate, we're not due another Gallente light weapon. Details: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1818472#post1818472
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:06:00 - [18] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS EDIT: Title changed to reflect that at that closer range it isn't really a sniper. Gallente will rather use rail tech Fatal Absolution bench proficiency lvl 5 why so serious zatara
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 293	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:11:00 - [19] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS EDIT: Title changed to reflect that at that closer range it isn't really a sniper. Gallente will rather use rail tech gotta agree, in eve galente use blaster for cqc and rail guns for long range, they and the caldari use the same tech, it's just that caldari rely on missile as another platform, and gallente rely on drones, both use plasma and rail tech Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4549	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:13:00 - [20] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: Faquira Bleuetta wrote: Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS EDIT: Title changed to reflect that at that closer range it isn't really a sniper. Gallente will rather use rail tech gotta agree, in eve galente use blaster for cqc and rail guns for long range, they and the caldari use the same tech, it's just that caldari rely on missile as another platform, and gallente rely on drones, both use plasma and rail tech but for some stupid reason DUST 514 decided to make Railguns Caldari exclusively.

Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 294	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:03:00 - [21] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: Faquira Bleuetta wrote: Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS EDIT: Title changed to reflect that at that closer range it isn't really a sniper. Gallente will rather use rail tech gotta agree, in eve galente use blaster for cqc and rail guns for long range, they and the caldari use the same tech, it's just that caldari rely on missile as another platform, and gallente rely on drones, both use plasma and rail tech but for some stupid reason DUST 514 decided to make Railguns Caldari exclusively. one thing they got right was that caldari are shield user while gallente armor tank, lore is sometime hard to balance Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
Teilka Darkmist 259	Posted - 2014.02.11 10:15:00 - [22] - Quote In lore, Caldari and Gallente were the same thing for most of their past, comes from their home planets being in the same system, so it makes sense that they have basically the same weapons, with some small diversion in the time since the Caldari broke away. In Dust however, they're trying to make it so that each race has it's own unique tech that their weapons are based on, so Caldari have been given Rails as fits their more long range doctrine and Plasma (which is basically blasters anyway) has been given to the Gallente to fit with the shorter range combat style. And Amarr has their energy weapons with Minmatar having tech that's more akin to current RL military tech, physical projectiles with a propellant. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4107	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:05:00 - [23] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game. Lore limits gameplay once again... Alright... High damage "bolt action" rifle that adds a tracker to the target. Illuminating them on the radar for ten seconds. In a game like dust, lore does and should guide the gameplay. I'm not saying that DOT weapons shouldn't exist, just that for the Gallente version of a SR it doesn't make sense. I'm all for them putting in a flamethrower, for example, I could quite easily imagine that it could be a Minmatar weapon, fairly low tech yet effective, or something from the Amarr, maybe something about cleansing flame connected to their religion. Plasma or incendiary grenades that have an AOE splash that doesn't directly damage, but sets anyone on fire. DOT can be done fairly easily in terms of lore I'm sure. I don't know about in terms of the mechanics as I'm not a coder at all. But lore should certainly influence the gameplay, otherwise there's no point setting the game in New Eden and connecting it with EVE. Alright, why don't you add some ideas? My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.02.11 14:19:00 - [24] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS That's not a sniper rifle then. Part of a sniper rifle's function is damage from a distance. I'd class that as a marksman rifle, more akin to the bolt action rifles that were used in the first and second world wars, except with a scope (probably). Um bolt action rifles are still used today as sniper rifles and are very effective at long range. One of the deadliest Snipers ever used a bolt action rifle without a scope. There's no set range for what qualifies as a "sniper" rifle. You don't have to be 1000m away to be a sniper lol 150-200 counts
Shiruba Ryou 210	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:25:00 - [25] - Quote UPDATE Ok I only made this thread to talk about something I though would be cool but the IRC guys got me actually thinking and after hours of intense discussion perforated with Cat_Merc's Capslocked MEOWs I we actually created a new weapon complete with stats, strength, weakness, usage, weapon structure, and weapon workings. The Gallente Marksman Rifle will be written up with all the stats we decided on in the IRC and hopefully presented to a member of CCP later today possibly in the next 10-12 hours which it will take until I can write it all up officially with all the required information. Pictures will be done by Fizzer94. Co-Developer for the GMR is SummDude. You all cant continue your discussions here. I'll be posting the presentation up later today as well here in the OP. "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 390	Posted - 2014.02.11 15:46:00 - [26] - Quote While I like the idea of new guns, I'm not sure another way to kill others at distance is the right thing for overall game play. Do we really need more snipers? Therefore I give this one a thumbs down. Sorry, my friend.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1923	Posted - 2014.02.11 16:51:00 - [27] - Quote Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS EDIT: Title changed to reflect that at that closer range it isn't really a sniper. UPDATE Ok I only made this thread to talk about something I though would be cool but the IRC guys got me actually thinking and after hours of intense discussion perforated with Cat_Merc's Capslocked MEOWs I we actually created a new weapon complete with stats, strength, weakness, usage, weapon structure, and weapon workings. The Gallente Marksman Rifle will be written up with all the stats we decided on in the IRC and hopefully presented to a member of CCP later today possibly in the next 10-12 hours which it will take until I can write it all up officially with all the required information. Pictures will be done by Fizzer94. Co-Developer for the GMR is SummDude. You all cant continue your discussions here. I'll be posting the presentation up later today as well here in the OP. It's an interesting concept. I'd like it to have range just above the RR (say, 110 effective, 140 max). It would fire 1 round every second, and inflict 240 damage. It'd have a 7 round magazine. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Teilka Darkmist 262	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:21:00 - [28] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: Shiruba Ryou wrote: 150m optimal : 200m Effective DISCUSS That's not a sniper rifle then. Part of a sniper rifle's function is damage from a distance. I'd class that as a marksman rifle, more akin to the bolt action rifles that were used in the first and second world wars, except with a scope (probably). Um bolt action rifles are still used today as sniper rifles and are very effective at long range. One of the deadliest Snipers ever used a bolt action rifle without a scope. There's no set range for what qualifies as a "sniper" rifle. You don't have to be 1000m away to be a sniper lol 150-200 counts I meant more like the rifles the average soldier used before automatic weapons became standard. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Teilka Darkmist 262	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:23:00 - [29] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: It should do little initial damage, instead doing damage over time. Damage done be "burning" effect is increased with each subsequent hit, as long as they hit before the previous shot stops "burning". I have to disagree. I think it should be just as capable of OHK as a Caldari SR, just without the range. No other weapon has a DOT effect as far as I'm aware. Since Gallente specialise at covert ops, having a weapon that lets a target scream and shout as they burn is impractical, it would have the alarm raised the first time it was used. A low ROF, high damage weapon fits the lore as well as the mechanics that are already in the game. Lore limits gameplay once again... Alright... High damage "bolt action" rifle that adds a tracker to the target. Illuminating them on the radar for ten seconds. In a game like dust, lore does and should guide the gameplay. I'm not saying that DOT weapons shouldn't exist, just that for the Gallente version of a SR it doesn't make sense. I'm all for them putting in a flamethrower, for example, I could quite easily imagine that it could be a Minmatar weapon, fairly low tech yet effective, or something from the Amarr, maybe something about cleansing flame connected to their religion. Plasma or incendiary grenades that have an AOE splash that doesn't directly damage, but sets anyone on fire. DOT can be done fairly easily in terms of lore I'm sure. I don't know about in terms of the mechanics as I'm not a coder at all. But lore should certainly influence the gameplay, otherwise there's no point setting the game in New Eden and connecting it with EVE. Alright, why don't you add some ideas? You mean other than the flamethrower with two possible racial variants and two types of grenades I gave as quick examples in the post you quoted? Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
Shiruba Ryou 210	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:48:00 - [30] - Quote UPDATE I wrote up what I got ^^ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_SrB_ep3QkMN3gzZ2F6dGw3NTQ/edit?usp=sharing "Not to worry. The cards say you loved it." `- Ryoutoshi`



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