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Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 32	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:45:00 - [1] - Quote Reset KDR for 1.8, or better yet do away with it. Since that is not going to happen, I suppose my complex kinkats + RE will be the only defense from PROTOS IN PUBLIC MATCHS FARMING KDR POINTS WHO QUIT IF THEY COME AGAINST ANY REAL OPPOSITION. This one time, me and my buddy spawned it and it was 2 versus 6, and he is like, "wanna drop" and I said, "why, this is the first fair fight I have seen today". Dropped my militia tank and blew up a LAV roaring in. Thing had NINE remote explosives on it. Then was shortly killed by a proto blaster tank, piloted by a proto gal logi with a second LAV coming in behind it................THEN I quit match. There are everything that is wrong with this game, I realized, why am I working so hard at this, by the time I am near the same level destiny will be out and I will probably be quitting anyways. Why take the pain, I have been playing for 3 months now, got 2 others to join and you have made public matches, nay, this game, miserable. ItGÇÖs funny, first month, ofph, this is rough, second month, I am getting stuff, cool, I can fit this now, third month, this sucks, I am still 8 mil away from even being competitive. When ttk is under 2 secs and people get 1/2 sec advantage over you due to SP, and it will take 4 more months with boosters to get there, man, this sh*t is broken.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 492	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:48:00 - [2] - Quote What you just explained is exactly what every new player in Dust thinks. It's not about the KDR, it's not about the win. People use prototype gear to be competitive and have fun, if using better gear saves you a couple deaths then why not, especially if it means you're having a better time. If you have the SP and ISK then what else are you going to spend it on? Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
Cyrius Li-Moody 3461	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:49:00 - [3] - Quote People don't proto stomp to be competitive. They protostomp so the fight ISNT competitive. Come on now. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:50:00 - [4] - Quote Competitive? I'm fine with only 7m sp
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 235	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:50:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People don't proto stomp to be competitive. They protostomp so the fight ISNT competitive. Come on now. QFT Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 730	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote My 13 Mill SP character uses STD gear still, and I kill Protostompers all day. I actually feel guilty.... I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 732	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:53:00 - [7] - Quote KDR only has a little to do with protostomping. You forget what universe we're in; we are in New Eden, a place were tears are a valuable commodity, a place where any mail but hate mail is junk mail, a place where people will do what ever they can to p!ss you off so that you'll post an angry comment on the forums for them to laugh at. Go ahead reset or remove KDR, they'll still do it for the "lols". Support Orbital Spawns
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 33	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:56:00 - [8] - Quote I am competitive with 4 mil SP, my KDR is around 0.78, but super tired of seeing groups of proto corps running together and obliterating everything around them. THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL ABOVE PUBLIC MATCHES if you want a challenge. God, I have grouped with "certain" members of some of those corps, and have literally heard, "you guys suck, i will have to transfer to an alt because I can't die this many times, I have to maintain a 2.5 KDR for my corp". Oh really? you canGÇÖt stomp faces alone? Well, thanks so much for helping us learn, I guess the lesson is just take the faceroll for a year til you have enough SP that someone will let you into a corp, wait wait, first get your KDR up, THEN you can join us.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 493	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:57:00 - [9] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People don't proto stomp to be competitive. They protostomp so the fight ISNT competitive. Come on now. Usually when people on the other team are running decent gear I'm not going to pull out my STD junk, just like in PC. However there is a fine line between proto stomping and using prototype usually if I don't need it to keep up with who I'm against I won't bother. Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 552	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:58:00 - [10] - Quote How to cripple the dickhead corps. Simple Don't Play Nuff Said

THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 495	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:59:00 - [11] - Quote Aszazel wrote: I am competitive with 4 mil SP, my KDR is around 0.78, but super tired of seeing groups of proto corps running together and obliterating everything around them. THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL ABOVE PUBLIC MATCHES if you want a challenge. God, I have grouped with "certain" members of some of those corps, and have literally heard, "you guys suck, i will have to transfer to an alt because I can't die this many times, I have to maintain a 2.5 KDR for my corp". Oh really? you canGÇÖt stomp faces alone? Well, thanks so much for helping us learn, I guess the lesson is just take the faceroll for a year til you have enough SP that someone will let you into a corp, wait wait, first get your KDR up, THEN you can join us. Heh.. Teamwork is OP, they'd likely smash your face in without prototype depending on who it is as long as they coordinate together. Director of ZionTCD Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Scout (SoonGäó) TDBS
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 23	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:00:00 - [12] - Quote "Reset KDR" "My Kdr is 0.78" I see what you did there.
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 404	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:00:00 - [13] - Quote Aszazel wrote: I am competitive with 4 mil SP, my KDR is around 0.78, but super tired of seeing groups of proto corps running together and obliterating everything around them. THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL ABOVE PUBLIC MATCHES if you want a challenge. God, I have grouped with "certain" members of some of those corps, and have literally heard, "you guys suck, i will have to transfer to an alt because I can't die this many times, I have to maintain a 2.5 KDR for my corp". Oh really? you canGÇÖt stomp faces alone? Well, thanks so much for helping us learn, I guess the lesson is just take the faceroll for a year til you have enough SP that someone will let you into a corp, wait wait, first get your KDR up, THEN you can join us. This is a ridiculously uninformed post. Plenty of good corps with good players have not KDR requirement. Join them. Or, you can continue with your pathetic victim mentality.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1794	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:01:00 - [14] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People don't proto stomp to be competitive. They protostomp so the fight ISNT competitive. Come on now. only time i ever bring proto out now is when i'm facing player that are using proto, and more often then not only when my standard fit isn't killing them enough.
HYENAKILLER X Knightz of the Round Legacy Rising 566	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:02:00 - [15] - Quote Reality of a hard sp sink and isk costs are to blame for 70%. 24% is lack of social networking and 5% is lack of skill. You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 35	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:02:00 - [16] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: This is a ridiculously uninformed post. Plenty of good corps with good players have not KDR requirement. Join them. Or, you can continue with your pathetic victim mentality. There he is, I suppose your part of a corp that doesn't require KDR either right?
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 597	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:02:00 - [17] - Quote My K/DR is 0.47 Psycho boink That was my baseball bouncing off walls with extreme trig to hit you in the face Sandman
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 732	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Aszazel wrote: I am competitive with 4 mil SP, my KDR is around 0.78, but super tired of seeing groups of proto corps running together and obliterating everything around them. THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL ABOVE PUBLIC MATCHES if you want a challenge. God, I have grouped with "certain" members of some of those corps, and have literally heard, "you guys suck, i will have to transfer to an alt because I can't die this many times, I have to maintain a 2.5 KDR for my corp". Oh really? you canGÇÖt stomp faces alone? Well, thanks so much for helping us learn, I guess the lesson is just take the faceroll for a year til you have enough SP that someone will let you into a corp, wait wait, first get your KDR up, THEN you can join us. This is a ridiculously uninformed post. Plenty of good corps with good players have not KDR requirement. Join them. Or, you can continue with your pathetic victim mentality. We Who Walk Alone, who puts up fights against Molon Labe and all the others, does not require a certain KDR. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 35	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:05:00 - [19] - Quote I am part of a great corp, but you will never see us running as 6 people in proto spawn camping. I have SEEN MoLabe park a TANK in front of a CRU and mow people down to go 38/0
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 23	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:08:00 - [20] - Quote "I am competitive! " ^has 0.78kdr

Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 35	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:14:00 - [21] - Quote jhon hartigan wrote: "I am competitive! " ^has 0.78kdr ThatGÇÖs the second time you have thrown that in my face, I don't play to stomp, I play to win, I travel to the other side of the map along the edges to hack a CRU when my team has been red lined. I creep into a city after everyone has run to the next point to take something back over, I run a militia fit to throw RE into a heavily equipment spammed domination point to take out the 10+ clustered people repping and spamming grenades. I have turned the tide of battles. I am a loner. My KDR doesn't matter to me as long as I am able to plant a RE on the back of a tank and free my team from the tyranny of tank514*.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 358	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:17:00 - [22] - Quote NOOOOOOOOOO CCCP PLEASE DONT!, all corps will have crippled duckheads after you reset the K/Dr. We will never win again!!!!!!!!!!!!! Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Raylon Mortien Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 23	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:18:00 - [23] - Quote KDR points you say O.o My Logi sense is tingling.... "Sir, we are surrounded!" "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 23	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:20:00 - [24] - Quote Aszazel wrote: jhon hartigan wrote: "I am competitive! " ^has 0.78kdr ThatGÇÖs the second time you have thrown that in my face, I don't play to stomp, I play to win, I travel to the other side of the map along the edges to hack a CRU when my team has been red lined. I creep into a city after everyone has run to the next point to take something back over, I run a militia fit to throw RE into a heavily equipment spammed domination point to take out the 10+ clustered people repping and spamming grenades. I have turned the tide of battles. I am a loner. My KDR doesn't matter to me as long as I am able to plant a RE on the back of a tank and free my team from the tyranny of tank514*. It is only cause I hate all These thread about kdr being a bad statistic. Every body here knows that it is not that important, but someone, Like me for example, likes numbers. It doesn't mean I camp to obtain a better kdr or I dont want to win or I use fotm. Kdr doesn't make me a bad Person. And I know (because I know) that corps that has a kdr prerequisite want anyway to see you in battle, eventualmente if your kdr is Low. If You are good and effective in battle that will want you, no Matter for your kdr. I have a Friend that is a scout with a hoorrible kdr because at start he doesn't know how to play for a long time. Now I think he is one of the strongest player I know.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 361	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:21:00 - [25] - Quote Aszazel wrote: I am part of a great corp, but you will never see us running as 6 people in proto spawn camping. I have SEEN MoLabe park a TANK in front of a CRU and mow people down to go 38/0 I bet they won. Cloned you? Viable strategy. God forbid you THINK and DONT SPAWN AT THE CRU 38 times. Blueberries.....can't play with em/Can't kill em. Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 725	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:22:00 - [26] - Quote Aszazel wrote: I am part of a great corp, but you will never see us running as 6 people in proto spawn camping. I have SEEN MoLabe park a TANK in front of a CRU and mow people down to go 38/0 Spawn camping the last red CRU isn't about padding KDR, its more for the lulz at the idiots who spawn there 4-7 times in a row thinking that they will do better the next time Most intelligent people will realize that its a lost cause and actually try to spawn somewhere else and push up with uplinks (They give us those nifty little things for a reason) while the other people will just spawn and spawn like lemmings and get ripped apart by whoever is doing the camping. Hell yeah I spawn camp the last red CRU, in standard gear (Because TTK is so low that proto has really lost all meaning unless you are stacking damage and tank, not my style), and I'll TK the ***** blue that thinks they are doing the reds a favor, or feels its not fair and tries to hack it in FW. Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. On the flip side, if were red-lined, or only have a final CRU that's being camped, I spawn with a speed/damper tanked logi and as many links as I can and scatter them EVERYWHERE. You don't like it, do something about it instead of continuing to spawn on that location and then cry about your pointless KDR. Officially under 3.0 KDR. STD > PROTO THUNDERGROOVE wrote:** Heh.. Teamwork is OP, they'd likely smash your face in without prototype depending on who it is as long as they coordinate together. ^ THIS! This is a TEAM based game. Running solo doesn't go so well for the average player. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1318	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:26:00 - [27] - Quote Quitting anything, even a video game match, is a sign that you don't know how to deal with adversity and choose to go the easy route because you don't enjoy the challenge in things. It doesn't say much for your inability to accpet that sometimes things get hard. Sometimes, getting stomped teaches you a lesson and though that lesson may be difficult to swallow, you can still learn from it. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 405	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:31:00 - [28] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: This is a ridiculously uninformed post. Plenty of good corps with good players have not KDR requirement. Join them. Or, you can continue with your pathetic victim mentality. There he is, I suppose your part of a corp that doesn't require KDR either right? Actually, yes. You will find players of all skill levels here. We have some very casual players who enjoy their .5 KDR. We also have very good players with a KDR that matches the gross domestic product of developing nations. Most of us land somewhere in the middle.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 105	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:34:00 - [29] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Reset KDR for 1.8, or better yet do away with it. Since that is not going to happen, I suppose my complex kinkats + RE will be the only defense from PROTOS IN PUBLIC MATCHS FARMING KDR POINTS WHO QUIT IF THEY COME AGAINST ANY REAL OPPOSITION. This one time, me and my buddy spawned it and it was 2 versus 6, and he is like, "wanna drop" and I said, "why, this is the first fair fight I have seen today". Dropped my militia tank and blew up a LAV roaring in. Thing had NINE remote explosives on it. Then was shortly killed by a proto blaster tank, piloted by a proto gal logi with a second LAV coming in behind it................THEN I quit match. There are everything that is wrong with this game, I realized, why am I working so hard at this, by the time I am near the same level destiny will be out and I will probably be quitting anyways. Why take the pain, I have been playing for 3 months now, got 2 others to join and you have made public matches, nay, this game, miserable. ItGÇÖs funny, first month, ofph, this is rough, second month, I am getting stuff, cool, I can fit this now, third month, this sucks, I am still 8 mil away from even being competitive. When ttk is under 2 secs and people get 1/2 sec advantage over you due to SP, and it will take 4 more months with boosters to get there, man, this sht is broken. if you are at or around 8 mil sp and still not compettitve you just suck bro try reorganizing your tactics yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA* when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 105	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:39:00 - [30] - Quote Aszazel wrote: I am competitive with 4 mil SP, my KDR is around 0.78, but super tired of seeing groups of proto corps running together and obliterating everything around them. THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL ABOVE PUBLIC MATCHES if you want a challenge. God, I have grouped with "certain" members of some of those corps, and have literally heard, "you guys suck, i will have to transfer to an alt because I can't die this many times, I have to maintain a 2.5 KDR for my corp". Oh really? you canGÇÖt stomp faces alone? Well, thanks so much for helping us learn, I guess the lesson is just take the faceroll for a year til you have enough SP that someone will let you into a corp, wait wait, first get your KDR up, THEN you can join us. i assume you are talking about PC but wht you fail to realize is there is a monopoly on PC and its still locked up so in simple terms for your simple brain PC=no entry so all those proto have to do sumthing with their gear yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 682	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:44:00 - [31] - Quote Any corp who cares about KDR is not worth joining, not necessarily because they are dicks (though they probably are) but because KDR is such a misleading statistic that depends more on luck and role than skill. Luck as in who you are matched up against and role because tankers and snipers should have highest KDR, followed by sentinels, then assault and scout, finally logi (if they are a real logi). Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 726	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:47:00 - [32] - Quote jhon hartigan wrote: If You are good and effective in battle that will want you, no Matter for your kdr. Also THIS. Find something that you're good at, and excel at it. Before we moved over to FA, I was in SyNergy gaming, before that I was in CrimeWave (Also in CW in MAG). When I applied to SyN my KDR was around 1.2 but they were more than happy to have me on their side because I was the SINGLE reason that they started carrying Flux grenades due to my love of RE. (They told me this the first day I joined them) after a while playing with them I noticed that the "Ever important KDR" was going up and up. I think I hit 8.3 at my highest, then I discovered scouts and logis and its been dropping ever since. I've never put down my RE's and I'll continue to do my best to use them to set traps, kill tanks, watch objectives, and generally **** everyone off to the point that when people see me on the other side they get scared to wander off alone because they know I'll be hiding somewhere watching them, just waiting for them to get in range of one of the 15 remotes I have around the map. Teamwork > all in this game, regardless of gear or KDR. Even FWA can manage to win a match against a bunch of randoms if they have a couple squads in game and they are all working together, even when most of them consistently go 5+ deaths over kills. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 363	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:47:00 - [33] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: How does the saying go? "Better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it". That analogy works for condoms too btw. GIT YO DIKKKK WET Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 107	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:48:00 - [34] - Quote The Infected One wrote: [quote=Aszazel] Most intelligent people will realize that its a lost cause and actually try to spawn somewhere else and push up with uplinks (They give us those nifty little things for a reason) while the other people will just spawn and spawn like lemmings and get ripped apart by whoever is doing the camping. ^this Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. and im stealing this ^ thank you Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden. KAMEHAMEHA professional Heavy for hire
Toro Navajo Defenders of the Helghast Dream 36	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:50:00 - [35] - Quote Defender do not believe in KDR stats. We do not enjoy getting proto stomped but will not quit a battle. Getting Proto Stomped sucks but Its FANTASTIC winning against Mega Corps and killing proto bears with Squad and team mechanics. Ask any who squad with us, it IS POSSIBLE.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2190	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:52:00 - [36] - Quote Cripple corps? So what would happend in your opinion if KDR gets reset? Players would just continue to play as they wish as usual and rebuild their KDR. People like me have like 250 mil ISK or more and can play with the expensive stuff all day long. And no i didnt bought any AUR gear ever and all my fits are purely bought with ISK. Its quite simple: -good players barely die in pub matches so they naturally allmost allways make profit -crap players die 24-7 non stop and go like 0-13 constantly so they need to stick with cheap stuff or buy AUR gear. If you like it or not this game might be free to play but good players force the crap players into a corner. And ya know thats why there is aswell PC. Corps in PC generate millions of ISK each day passively which means they get ISK rich. When you are rich you can use shiny stuff without the need to worry if you can actually afford that gear. The constant stomps frustrate the crap players and because they are poor they have only 1 option to get at least on the same gear lvl as the rich players. And that my friend is AUR. AUR sales help to fund development cost, server costs etc. which is the ecconomical base for CCP. However it doesnt matter if you got the biggest club, the person who wields the biggest club is more important. Which means even if you would have 60 million SP a crap player will allways be a crap player. Hand-eye coordination, situational awareness and teamwork cannot be bought for any ISK or AUR in the world. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 737	Posted - 2014.02.10 18:59:00 - [37] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Any corp who cares about KDR is not worth joining, not necessarily because they are dicks (though they probably are) but because KDR is such a misleading statistic that depends more on luck and role than skill. Luck as in who you are matched up against and role because tankers and snipers should have highest KDR, followed by sentinels, then assault and scout, finally logi (if they are a real logi). To be fair though, all the stats that are tracked right now are pretty meaningless. Really high KDR people tend to be tanks and snipers, really high WP people are mostly just spamming equipment (uplinks in particular) and not always in good places (again uplinks in particular... why the fck is it in the middle of the road?!?!?!), and high WLR people just tend to get put on the right side of stacked matches. Support Orbital Spawns
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1929	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:03:00 - [38] - Quote Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: try reorganizing your tactics But.... but... sigh slowly walks away, dejected "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3094	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:10:00 - [39] - Quote Everything I do in this game, I do for the tears. I got hatemail recently for using a Templar ScR on a Templar Sentinel. So I used it exclusively on the same guy in the next match. I saw a Blueberry using a Thale's in FW. So I executed him with a breach ScP to the back of the head. And in those occasions when I'm running with a good squad, I'll pull out the proto gear just to make the poor reds squeal. No.
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 45	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:14:00 - [40] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Reset KDR for 1.8, or better yet do away with it. Since that is not going to happen, I suppose my complex kinkats + RE will be the only defense from PROTOS IN PUBLIC MATCHS FARMING KDR POINTS WHO QUIT IF THEY COME AGAINST ANY REAL OPPOSITION. This one time, me and my buddy spawned it and it was 2 versus 6, and he is like, "wanna drop" and I said, "why, this is the first fair fight I have seen today". Dropped my militia tank and blew up a LAV roaring in. Thing had NINE remote explosives on it. Then was shortly killed by a proto blaster tank, piloted by a proto gal logi with a second LAV coming in behind it................THEN I quit match. There are everything that is wrong with this game, I realized, why am I working so hard at this, by the time I am near the same level destiny will be out and I will probably be quitting anyways. Why take the pain, I have been playing for 3 months now, got 2 others to join and you have made public matches, nay, this game, miserable. ItGÇÖs funny, first month, ofph, this is rough, second month, I am getting stuff, cool, I can fit this now, third month, this sucks, I am still 8 mil away from even being competitive. When ttk is under 2 secs and people get 1/2 sec advantage over you due to SP, and it will take 4 more months with boosters to get there, man, this sh*t is broken. I use proto amarr logi with compact nives and a adv weapon, I run solo.....

CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1426	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:21:00 - [41] - Quote Tell you what with about 7m SP you can do this ADV Amarr assault L5 biotics L5 shield upgrades L5 armour upgrades PRO SCR 2x complex damage mods 2x enhanced armour plates 1x nanohive ~220 shield 449 armour 6.64m/s sprint speed if i'm not mistaken, or perhaps 6.44. if they scan you relentlessly, ALWAYS have a charge shot running. This suit and loadout is badass and will have protos running away in fear. Once they see you're shooting 100+hp per round at them, they will turn and run. Plus the suit only costs 35K ISK, something like that. You don't need a tonne of SP, just damage mods and a powerful weapon xD Also heavies are completely nullified. Charge shot their face from medium distance and laugh. Also using the Viziam you will one shot perhaps 25% of the dropsuits you will come across. DUST VIDEOS
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2451	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:39:00 - [42] - Quote They need to add an ISK efficiency rating. ISK value of items destroyed / ISK value of items lost Use ISK value of equivalent tier items for AUR items. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 654	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:48:00 - [43] - Quote one reason ive suggested an optional restriction type system for the game. so we get better more balanced matches. problem was that it was ignored alot and the few ppl that did respond were proto bears that bitched about even though they had no reason to complain as it would have been an optional thing for the player to set up for just himself.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1899	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:51:00 - [44] - Quote Idc about kdr. I have 29,000,000 SP and a little less than 300,000,000 ISK. I run std for hacking Adv for slaying. Proto for stomping newbs. Pro Tanks for stomping protostompers Std tanks for stomping proto tanks Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 213	Posted - 2014.02.10 19:56:00 - [45] - Quote @OP: You do realize that vets don't even look at the stat boards ever right? Stats in FPS lobby shooters mean nothing, as everything can be padded. Sage /thread
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 38	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:39:00 - [46] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Tell you what with about 7m SP you can do this ADV Amarr assault L5 biotics L5 shield upgrades L5 armour upgrades PRO SCR 2x complex damage mods 2x enhanced armour plates 1x nanohive ~220 shield 449 armour 6.64m/s sprint speed if i'm not mistaken, or perhaps 6.44. if they scan you relentlessly, ALWAYS have a charge shot running. This suit and loadout is badass and will have protos running away in fear. Once they see you're shooting 100+hp per round at them, they will turn and run. Plus the suit only costs 35K ISK, something like that. You don't need a tonne of SP, just damage mods and a powerful weapon xD Also heavies are completely nullified. Charge shot their face from medium distance and laugh. Also using the Viziam you will one shot perhaps 25% of the dropsuits you will come across. I probably went about this thread all wrong, I am not bitching, I know what this game is like, I have been playing 3 months and just got to a little over 4 mil SP so this isn't even possible yet. Where I am coming from, how in the h3ll can I possibly get new people to join and keep playing with the state of the game like this, you are telling me it takes half a year to start being good IF you can play the SCR (which, lets be honest, is an artform for a lot of people)
Dalmont Legrand 266	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:41:00 - [47] - Quote Props to HYENAKILLER X on first page as reading his comment suddenly I remembered this. This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name. The best is yet to come
Chesty Ranger Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:41:00 - [48] - Quote Lol All this proto tears. But the truth is for every proto guy there's 5 terrible players that contribute absolutely nothing to the fight. So for us that like to win have no choice to use everything in our arsenal. This is specially truth in skrimage. I can't count how many times I end up staring at defeat screen and wondering how did I lost that battle. After pulling 32+ kill game.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 495	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:52:00 - [49] - Quote jhon hartigan wrote: "I am competitive! " ^has 0.78kdr I have a .75 kdr, and i have not gone below a 1.25 kdr, using basic suits and running solo, since 1.7. I have such a bad KDR because i ran nova knives with no sidearm or anything on a minmitar scout for the longest time, and am now recovering. KDR does not say anything about how competitive you are at all. All the people who believe otherwise are simply misinformed. In reality, it simply denotes how badly you did for your first 3 mil SP, and for me, that was regularly going 1-14. Now i regularly go 24-6. Stop harassing this guy. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 39	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:53:00 - [50] - Quote Which is hailrious considering most forum posts I read now are protos screaming that tanks aren't fair cause everyone can buy them now, or that jihad jeeps aren't fair cause they blew up my tank and it was expensive, or remote explosives aren't fair cause I lost my...you get it. I hope you do anyways. No one is talking for the new players anymore. Everyone just assumes that anyone who is playing dust is an alt and has been playing for a year and has all bpo's.

Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1320	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:58:00 - [51] - Quote Chesty Ranger wrote: Lol All this proto tears. But the truth is for every proto guy there's 5 terrible players that contribute absolutely nothing to the fight. So for us that like to win have no choice to use everything in our arsenal. This is specially truth in skrimage. I can't count how many times I end up staring at defeat screen and wondering how did I lost that battle. After pulling 32+ kill game. OFT. As an example, yesterday I went 48-1 defending 1 objective solo. Can't remember what the map is called, but is the newer one with B on high ground overlooking a CRU and A is underground. I successfully defended B all by my lonesome self while 15 other players had the luxury of keeping their attention on the other 3. I held it on my own for 98% of the match, with my only death coming at the end when my ammo was scarce. I respawned and immediately took it back. Tell me HOW IN THE WORLD we still lost? PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1936	Posted - 2014.02.10 20:59:00 - [52] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Chesty Ranger wrote: Lol All this proto tears. But the truth is for every proto guy there's 5 terrible players that contribute absolutely nothing to the fight. So for us that like to win have no choice to use everything in our arsenal. This is specially truth in skrimage. I can't count how many times I end up staring at defeat screen and wondering how did I lost that battle. After pulling 32+ kill game. OFT. As an example, yesterday I went 48-1 defending 1 objective solo. Can't remember what the map is called, but is the newer one with B on high ground overlooking a CRU and A is underground. I successfully defended B all by my lonesome self while 15 other players had the luxury of keeping their attention on the other 3. I held it on my own for 98% of the match, with my only death coming at the end when my ammo was scarce. I respawned and immediately took it back. Tell me HOW IN THE WORLD we still lost? Because it was Amarr FW maybe? If not then I guess you need to git gud noob. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 406	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:13:00 - [53] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Which is hailrious considering most forum posts I read now are protos screaming that tanks aren't fair cause everyone can buy them now, or that jihad jeeps aren't fair cause they blew up my tank and it was expensive, or remote explosives aren't fair cause I lost my...you get it. I hope you do anyways. No one is talking for the new players anymore. Everyone just assumes that anyone who is playing dust is an alt and has been playing for a year and has all bpo's. There have been plenty of posts looking out for the new guys. The problem is those of us with 20+ million SP and a KDR that doesn't illicit snickers don't agree with the handouts new players cry for. Me, I say you join a good corp and let us vets remove some of your more stupid FPS habits. Run with good players, and you become a good player. That is how I did it. On the other hand, new players want CCP to design systems and protections that cater to them. They want proto disallowed in pubs, or tanks disallowed in ambush. They want stat reset or skill points reset. They cry for literally anything that keeps them from having to own up to two facts. 1. They need to get better at the game. This may involve gun game, role change, or decision making. 2. No, you can't join a freakin nothing corp filled with nothing players and expect to grow and learn as a player. A wise man surrounds himself with many counselors. Surround yourself with players who are better then you... Then learn from them. Kingbabar(w/e his name is) offered to take new players in his squad. All they did was moan and complain about his proto gear. That's the attitude of entitled children, not players who want to better themselves. You keep asking CCP for welfare instead of making something of yourself... /rant off...
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 666	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:23:00 - [54] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: There have been plenty of posts looking out for the new guys. The problem is those of us with 20+ million SP and a KDR that doesn't illicit snickers don't agree with the handouts new players cry for. Me, I say you join a good corp and let us vets remove some of your more stupid FPS habits. Run with good players, and you become a good player. That is how I did it. On the other hand, new players want CCP to design systems and protections that cater to them. They want proto disallowed in pubs, or tanks disallowed in ambush. They want stat reset or skill points reset. They cry for literally anything that keeps them from having to own up to two facts. 1. They need to get better at the game. This may involve gun game, role change, or decision making. 2. No, you can't join a freakin nothing corp filled with nothing players and expect to grow and learn as a player. A wise man surrounds himself with many counselors. Surround yourself with players who are better then you... Then learn from them. Kingbabar(w/e his name is) offered to take new players in his squad. All they did was moan and complain about his proto gear. That's the attitude of entitled children, not players who want to better themselves. You keep asking CCP for welfare instead of making something of yourself... /rant off... in short it sounds like your solution to the problem is to "become the problem". no offence intended. the game itself is a progressive learning system. but u cant really make a complete noob that has played for along time into a 'good player". the newbs. on dust from what i can tell from some of the bitching and complaining of all the many different sides to the problem is really only a few reasons. the main obstacle for newer players to the game is the pub stomping. its still going on none the less. (and we have quite a few on each side who are complete idiots with a secret agenda.). making that learning curb easier for the new player would make the game better for most of em. i myself my prefer playing may prefer playing on the easiest difficulty of some games. but im also skilled enough to play on some of the much harder difficulties. like legendary in halo. or skyrim.. in a multiplayer such as this there is no changing difficulty. because u are always being pitted against several different players of varying skill level. a pve mode could solve this obstacle for some. but not for those who enjoy the pvp part of the game but absolutely hate one sided matches in general.
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.05.06 05:57:00 - [55] - Quote or.....headshot the game seconds after saying how great the community is. Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 420	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:47:00 - [56] - Quote I'm sure it's been said a number of times so far, but resetting KD/R wouldn't do a thing to keep people from proto stomping, nor would getting rid of it. A reset would just mean most people would have their KD/R soar (My 2.83 would likely be at a 4.0 or higher if I got a reset) I've never personally run with anyone who was like what you mentioned, OP, though I'm not surprised they exist. It's more about investing in core skills at this point and running with squads than anything else, but the most important thing is to have fun. If you're always playing just to win, this game gets boring very quickly. Having silly setups just to screw with people can be a blast and doesn't require a lot of SP, especially if you know where to put that SP in the first place. You're in a scout corporation, so I'm guessing you're in the Scouts United chat channel. If not, I'd recommend joining that and squading up with, I don't think most people in there cares about their KD/R, or yours for that matter.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 803	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:57:00 - [57] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: This is a ridiculously uninformed post. Plenty of good corps with good players have not KDR requirement. Join them. Or, you can continue with your pathetic victim mentality. There he is, I suppose your part of a corp that doesn't require KDR either right? no KDR requirement in my Corp "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 345	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:04:00 - [58] - Quote Soo, this is crazy, I started this post on Feb 10, 2014 and had forgotten about it, someone just added a comment and refreshed it for me. With all the boosters and SP events that CCP put out (as they were planning for the destruction of their player base and the death of their game) I went from 8 mil SP to 14 mil SP in about 3 months. I'd say this is the hardest time of anyone in this game. Up to and at 8 mil you can get to those 4/5 skills and feel like you are really improving, but as I now know 4/5 isn't **** compared to 5/5 and being able to use complex. I look back at all of my complaints as a beginning player, and it's really messed up that after 4 months of playing you are still a "beginning" player in this game. Actually I don't even know why I am posting this, I want CCP to fail at life so I'd rather not give them any feedback on how to make a better game. I suppose this is for the players still trying to git gud at this game (even though I have walked away). One of my favorite things was teaching new players so they didn't have to walk the same path I did since your instructions and NPE is so GD awful. One day everything clicks, and you go from 8/6 to 28/2 and it's a world of difference. You don't even have a problem with those other matches where you get proto'ed cause you know every time you get a kill you are costing people money. (The cloak was a game changer honestly). Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 345	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:06:00 - [59] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I'm sure it's been said a number of times so far, but resetting KD/R wouldn't do a thing to keep people from proto stomping, nor would getting rid of it. A reset would just mean most people would have their KD/R soar (My 2.83 would likely be at a 4.0 or higher if I got a reset) I've never personally run with anyone who was like what you mentioned, OP, though I'm not surprised they exist. It's more about investing in core skills at this point and running with squads than anything else, but the most important thing is to have fun. If you're always playing just to win, this game gets boring very quickly. Having silly setups just to screw with people can be a blast and doesn't require a lot of SP, especially if you know where to put that SP in the first place. You're in a scout corporation, so I'm guessing you're in the Scouts United chat channel. If not, I'd recommend joining that and squading up with, I don't think most people in there cares about their KD/R, or yours for that matter. Oh no, R 0 N 1 N walked away from this turd burger, we are all getting ready for Destiny, Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 278	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:11:00 - [60] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: People don't proto stomp to be competitive. They protostomp so the fight ISNT competitive. Come on now. Exactly, i use exclusively adv equipment with proto modules to be sure i find it harder to play the game, that is competitive.... Imposing a crutch to oneself IS trying to get better ! I only use real total proto gear in FW and PC...

Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 464	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:31:00 - [61] - Quote A tale of two extremes: Last night I played a couple hours with my alt, running a mix of AUR gear, mostly proto fit so I could "cap" my alt faster during the double SP event (compare a MLT repped to a dual repper for WP whoring). Then I logged into Eve to queue up Capital Shield Emissions 5...to optimize a carrier spider tank... And I'll come back in 43 days when it finishes to queue something else. I browsed some assets, considering some PI operations which have been idle....but I decided I would tend that garden later. I was too tired from doing other things. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3809	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:04:00 - [62] - Quote I recently ruptured my Achilles' tendon so I have been playing more than normal. My pain meds have actual made me stay up later. Anyway, I logged on around midnight Saturday night CT. At that time my weekly KDR was 2.75 and a W/L of just under 3.0. When I logged off yesterday (Sunday) my KDR was just under 2.0 and my W/L was 1.3. I lost like 45 out of 50 matches. The blueberries on my time were a constant mess of hot garbage. I pulled out proto out of frustration. Keep blaming proto users. Crap players derping around are just as much at fault. Right off the bat there is a line of uplinks and nanohives along the edge of the redline. Players that do this deserve to be proto stomped. Level 3 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
pseudosnipre Fatal Absolution 716	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:11:00 - [63] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Reality of a hard sp sink and isk costs are to blame for 70%. 24% is lack of social networking and 5% is lack of skill. Rounding error detected Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML


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