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Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
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Posted - 2014.02.10 11:14:00 -
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'In the aftermath pf some of the best discussion ever on the Dust forum [aka the thread that wont go away] Our blog recently had a sitdown with the infamous Goons and talked Dust, good times were had by all. Bombs were dropped. See our blog tomorrow for our sitdown with TEST.'
read the rest here: http://tinyurl.com/kk4c8mm
our battery of questions for CPM1 candidates: http://tinyurl.com/mjvwe7f
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2630
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Posted - 2014.02.10 11:28:00 -
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Very interesting read, many shared views
Paradox or sammhiel for CPM?
Ps I spelt your name wrong Sam so F you hahahaha.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.10 11:46:00 -
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+1 agree with all of this. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.10 12:52:00 -
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def some good points made, why so much QQ about shipboarding? |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.10 13:05:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:def some good points made, why so much QQ about shipboarding?
It always puzzles me as well, especially since its been confirmed already.
My favorite part is where they talk about all the reasons shipboarding isn't feasible and lack of tactical control, and then go on about how Warbarges with mercs onboard are soft targets that can be ganked before boots even hit the ground.
Inconsistent much? I hope we see some compromise so this gets added soon. This is the kind of interaction that makes the gaming media fall in love with Dust again. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.10 13:36:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:Tolen Rosas wrote:def some good points made, why so much QQ about shipboarding? It always puzzles me as well, especially since its been confirmed already. My favorite part is where they talk about all the reasons shipboarding isn't feasible and lack of tactical control, and then go on about how Warbarges with mercs onboard are soft targets that can be ganked before boots even hit the ground. Inconsistent much? I hope we see some compromise so this gets added soon. This is the kind of interaction that makes the gaming media fall in love with Dust again. I would love to be hired to travel on someone's ship as a escort in case it gets boarded.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.10 13:37:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:[shipboarding has]... been confirmed already.
Woah, easy there buddy. You're gonna need a source for that.
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 13:56:00 -
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Shipboarding is like having a person on their smart phone control the nanites in your clone and take it over/kill it from the inside, do you get that?
Listen
I'll change the song every week
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 13:58:00 -
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Who are the individuals you're interviewing tomorrow for TEST; are they from EVE or Dust or both?
Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
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Ivan Avogadro
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:02:00 -
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Ship boarding and/or shooting down warbarges doesn't need to be decided right now. How about we start slowly. Something like the battle in B-R5RB that happened ~2 weeks ago.
It was touted as the biggest battle in EvE history, amounting to nearly $200,000 in destroyed equipment. (Not all of this was dollars spent, most of it was time to farm ISK, which happens to have a conversion to USD. Think of it more like $200k worth of man hours in EvE)
Anyway, the B-R5RB system has 9 planets and 66 moons. One of those planets is Temperate.
How much space debris do you think fell onto that Temperate planet? I bet a lot, considering at least 50 Titans bit it during that fight.
I would think a squadron of DUST Mercs is the perfect security and extraction team for very valuable salvage. Raw materials for making a Titan. The materials they happened to be carrying before they were destroyed. Maybe a fully functioning (or mostly functioning) module?
Dust mercs go in, and fight over the salvage. Winning teams get to keep pieces from the wreckage, then go back for more. DUST battles wage for days in the wake of an EVE battle.
Then, if we had a working market, we could sell their own destroyed ships back to the Capsuleers. It would give DUSTers a reason to care about space wars. And would give DUSTers their first profession: salvager. We can work on pirates, industrialists, etc... later. |
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:20:00 -
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Ivan Avogadro wrote:Ship boarding and/or shooting down warbarges doesn't need to be decided right now. How about we start slowly. Something like the battle in B-R5RB that happened ~2 weeks ago. It was touted as the biggest battle in EvE history, amounting to nearly $200,000 in destroyed equipment. (Not all of this was dollars spent, most of it was time to farm ISK, which happens to have a conversion to USD. Think of it more like $200k worth of man hours in EvE) Anyway, the B-R5RB system has 9 planets and 66 moons. One of those planets is Temperate. How much space debris do you think fell onto that Temperate planet? I bet a lot, considering at least 50 Titans bit it during that fight. I would think a squadron of DUST Mercs is the perfect security and extraction team for very valuable salvage. Raw materials for making a Titan. The materials they happened to be carrying before they were destroyed. Maybe a fully functioning (or mostly functioning) module? Dust mercs go in, and fight over the salvage. Winning teams get to keep pieces from the wreckage, then go back for more. DUST battles wage for days in the wake of an EVE battle. Then, if we had a working market, we could sell their own destroyed ships back to the Capsuleers. It would give DUSTers a reason to care about space wars. And would give DUSTers their first profession: salvager. We can work on pirates, industrialists, etc... later. Yeah, I made two threads a couple months ago on this subject. Can't find them now, but I do think we need a salvage type game mode.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 14:46:00 -
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Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. |
Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai.
These guys were at least approved by higher leadership. I don't think they wanted another Cerebral Wolf or whatever his name was. |
Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:27:00 -
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Every time I read your blog post, my dikk is hard! What yous aid about shipboarding makes sense. From what I've gotten about this from ex and current EVE pilots, is that there simply isn't enough incentive for shipboarding to be a viable options. There just isn enough in it for the EVE pilot, until that is fixed MCC shipboarding would/could be a much better idea. There are some more complextities in that I just wont get into now. Battle Academy, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you're saying. If this game is to survive we need to find a better way to care for our young. The only thing that maybe a good idea on top of what you said, which wsa all great, maybe DUST vets could be Academy leaders, or teachers, to be more than just a video to help the new bunnies get out into the wild. Great blod. Can't wait to read the next one!
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:39:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. These guys were at least approved by higher leadership. I don't think they wanted another Cerebral Wolf or whatever his name was.
Are we talking about the same Goon leadership that very nearly elected a large box of melting snowballs as Commander of Euro Squad? |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 15:51:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Ayures II wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. These guys were at least approved by higher leadership. I don't think they wanted another Cerebral Wolf or whatever his name was. Are we talking about the same Goon leadership that very nearly elected a large box of melting snowballs as Commander of Euro Squad?
Yes.
Hail Satan
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
382
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. I'm sure Mrs. Nature and Mr. Hiel are so very offended by your jab at their relevance. Surely you have crushed goon dreams on this day~
Please tell us more about relevance oh mighty space warrior(-ess?) |
Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:06:00 -
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Read "New Blog" and got excited thinking dev blog; now I'm just disappointed.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:07:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Ayures II wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. These guys were at least approved by higher leadership. I don't think they wanted another Cerebral Wolf or whatever his name was. Are we talking about the same Goon leadership that very nearly elected a large box of melting snowballs as Commander of Euro Squad? Yes.
By the sounds of it the large box of melting snowballs had more leadership qualities than its nearest rival which happened to be an autistic little kid with prof 5 in shitposting
Intelligence is OP
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:07:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai. I'm sure Mrs. Nature and Mr. Hiel are so very offended by your jab at their relevance. Surely you have crushed goon dreams on this day~ Please tell us more about relevance oh mighty space warrior(-ess?) Uh-oh, someone has hurt feelings.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:16:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Uh-oh, someone has hurt feelings. +1 for trying to dress up the 'u mad' |
Paradoxical Nature
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
92
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:21:00 -
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Well it's nice to see people are chatting about our hurf blurf. Like I mentioned in The Thread That Never Ends (tm), hopefully, it'll spawn some new questions and discussion for how we want to see this game grow and grow into the roles we want to see implemented.
I think we all agree that we want a better game and it is good to see us discussing the myriad of ways in which that can and should happen. |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:30:00 -
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Second thread about the same things
Will CCP please respond. |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2075
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Posted - 2014.02.10 16:31:00 -
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I don't think its necessary that we have to have a 'station attack' game mode to integrate Dust and Eve.
I've thought about a way to integrate PC and nullsec.
Let Outposts be anchored at a temperate planet or a moon near a temperate planet.
- These Outposts then get special bonuses, maybe increased shield regen rate or resistances based on district control % of the local temperate planet and some other economic bonuses.
- Then make district control modify both the station's defensive stats, but also the vulnerability status of the station. If the system holder owns no districts on the station's planet, then the station becomes vulnerable regardless of SBU anchoring.
- Enemies can launch 'clone strikes' with manufactured packages by connecting to district satellites above each district while also revealing their location.
- 'Clone strikes' have limited amounts of clones and can be used at any time. Planets can be defended by mercs fighting at a moment's notice based on standing defense orders issued to alliance and corp members and others in good standing.
- Player's may employ specialized orbital strikes that can directly damage attacker's MCCs that would be useful in the event of having no mercenaries around, but maintaining prolonged complete space-domination. Would ensure sov holders the ability to defend their districts with a small clone cost during off-peak hours.
- If at least one district is reclaimed and 50% of SBUs aren't online, then stations will lose vulnerability.
This would mean that if you want to use one of these stations, you would have to have either great mercenary defenders, or total space-superiority over at least a few of your districts while under attack. A coordinated SBU and ground assault would mean many more points off attack, but also many more points of coordination for everyone involved. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
231
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:06:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Saying you talked with a Goon is like saying you talked with an Englishman. There's a lot of them. Doesn't mean much.
I think in the grand Goon hierarchy being the CEO of Goonfeet is just above Spai and just below Good Spai.
I myself am a Groon spai. Para is just the bitterest of great war bittervets. She still has PTSD from Shrike's Titan, and thinks Cavalry Ravens are a thing.
Either way, outside the sphere of dust we're just bad posters and line members who were trusted enough not to pull a CW and masochistic enough to volunteer.
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
319
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:36:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Prius Vecht wrote:[shipboarding has]... been confirmed already. Woah, easy there buddy. You're gonna need a source for that.
Watch the fanfest video from last year.p |
Paradoxical Nature
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
93
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:55:00 -
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Samahiel wrote: I myself am a Groon spai. Para is just the bitterest of great war bittervets. She still has PTSD from Shrike's Titan, and thinks Cavalry Ravens are a thing.
It's true.
I was so happy to see THE Titan that doomsday'd me 6.5 years ago got blap'd at B-5.
Samahiel wrote: Edit: If you really care about 'True Goon' purity we are that rare commodity, non-J4G SA goons with reg-dates more than 3 months old.
:regd07: |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
319
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:14:00 -
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Was thinking: solution might be to start shipboarding in PVE against NPC ships. |
Ander Thedas
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:37:00 -
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[quoteThese were great mini-events, though heavily scripted, that needed to go further. The Battle for Caldari Prime energized some players, while it confounded others. Many arenGÇÖt used to, or even aware, thereGÇÖs an expansive wiki on the New Eden universe and were therefore lost as to who Tibius Heath was, or why they should care. Both events became just a cool map with some okay rewards. A more immersive experience is required. This could happen through game videos that are pushed out with an Update (like the old Introduction video) that gives a short :30-1:00 long SCOPE news alert about anything happening.
When I played EvE, on the login screen, there was a news feed ostensibly run by The SCOPE. These text-blitzes had news reports of things happening in both Player-Controlled Alliances as well as NPC ones. At the very least, this should be on the DUST login screen as well. Little touches like this, allow for greater immersion in the world and show the stakes that are on hand for the Mercenary.[/quote]
This should be tackled by CCP ASAP. It would just require a voice over on top of some art and that would be more than enough (and I'd assume the majority of the art would be recycled from other uses, meaning it wouldn't even take resources away from the art team). Realistically a handful of employees could bang this out over a weekend and then one other person would spend some time editing it and that small addition would make an immediately huge impact on the way the EVE universe gets interacted with by the traditional player base. And hell, they don't even need to pull DUST resources away to accomplish this if the video is also shared by EVE. They can just set someone on the EVE team into banging this out no problem. Imagine a new video every month explaining the current ongoing changes in the EVE world, going into some backstory, and generally just coloring the lore. Easy win all around. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
236
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:18:00 -
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Ander Thedas wrote:Quote:These were great mini-events, though heavily scripted, that needed to go further. The Battle for Caldari Prime energized some players, while it confounded others. Many arenGÇÖt used to, or even aware, thereGÇÖs an expansive wiki on the New Eden universe and were therefore lost as to who Tibius Heath was, or why they should care. Both events became just a cool map with some okay rewards. A more immersive experience is required. This could happen through game videos that are pushed out with an Update (like the old Introduction video) that gives a short :30-1:00 long SCOPE news alert about anything happening.
When I played EvE, on the login screen, there was a news feed ostensibly run by The SCOPE. These text-blitzes had news reports of things happening in both Player-Controlled Alliances as well as NPC ones. At the very least, this should be on the DUST login screen as well. Little touches like this, allow for greater immersion in the world and show the stakes that are on hand for the Mercenary. This should be tackled by CCP ASAP. It would just require a voice over on top of some art and that would be more than enough (and I'd assume the majority of the art would be recycled from other uses, meaning it wouldn't even take resources away from the art team). Realistically a handful of employees could bang this out over a weekend and then one other person would spend some time editing it and that small addition would make an immediately huge impact on the way the EVE universe gets interacted with by the traditional player base. And hell, they don't even need to pull DUST resources away to accomplish this if the video is also shared by EVE. They can just set someone on the EVE team into banging this out no problem. Imagine a new video every month explaining the current ongoing changes in the EVE world, going into some backstory, and generally just coloring the lore. Easy win all around.
The EVE news feed plays constantly in the EVE Captains Quarters, where we have a couch you can actually sit down on. It flashes things like the players with the top ten highest bounties, recent changes to sovereignty, and the news stories behind PVE events. It's all done in video and text so no voice over needed. It would just be inserted in with the ads that play on the television in your merc quarters.
edit: there are also space billboards next to the gates in Highsec that play this stuff too, really it's everywhere. |
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