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iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 69	Posted - 2014.02.09 17:55:00 - [1] - Quote Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board Tell me this isn't a great idea. GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2099	Posted - 2014.02.09 17:57:00 - [2] - Quote I approve Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 644	Posted - 2014.02.09 17:58:00 - [3] - Quote Just a blanket damage increase to all weapons? Kind of murdering the commando bonus when you do that.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 489	Posted - 2014.02.09 17:58:00 - [4] - Quote Damage bonuses are for Commandos. Assaults should get bonuses like what the current Amarr Assault does. We want cake and tea.
Bleeding Knight Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:00:00 - [5] - Quote Sense you enter thr discussion, I would like you think outside your box and tell us why some people might think this is a bad idea.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 69	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:01:00 - [6] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Just a blanket damage increase to all weapons? Kind of murdering the commando bonus when you do that. Point taken. Railgun dmg for cal, laser for amarr, etc. Would be perfectly acceptable We need something to give assaults better slaying capability and reload speed is not it. GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 700	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:09:00 - [7] - Quote Not a great idea because all weapons are not the problem. Laser taking a 15% damage penalty ultimately means less DPS before overheat, the weapon is already bad right now. HMG and Shotgunners should auto-win in CQC, Shotgunners need all the damage they can get. MD rounds become a joke. Snipers quit the game. Lol Plasma Cannons. Then there are multiple sidearms that take hits for no reason. Meanwhile the Rifle will still take less than 2 seconds to kill someone from 0-60+ meters. "Damage nerf across the board" will only widen the gap between Rifles and all other weapons in the game. The problem isn't TTK, it's Rifles.
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 460	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:13:00 - [8] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: Just a blanket damage increase to all weapons? Kind of murdering the commando bonus when you do that. Point taken. Railgun dmg for cal, laser for amarr, etc. Would be perfectly acceptable We need something to give assaults better slaying capability and reload speed is not it. I'd still rather see the assault class get the passive armor rep bonus of the current logis. Dealing more damage in comparison to the other classes is a fair enough compromise, however. Life is killing me.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:13:00 - [9] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Not a great idea because all weapons are not the problem. Laser taking a 15% damage penalty ultimately means less DPS before overheat, the weapon is already bad right now. HMG and Shotgunners should auto-win in CQC, Shotgunners need all the damage they can get. MD rounds become a joke. Snipers quit the game. Lol Plasma Cannons. Then there are multiple sidearms that take hits for no reason. Meanwhile the Rifle will still take less than 2 seconds to kill someone from 0-60+ meters. "Damage nerf across the board" will only widen the gap between Rifles and all other weapons in the game. The problem isn't TTK, it's Rifles. Is that.. One of those thought out ideas I've heard once roamed these forums??? I thought they were a myth. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 98	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:15:00 - [10] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board Tell me this isn't a great idea. this is a horid idea and you should feel bad for thinking it yeah give the gives with the highest range (under SR) a 10% dmg buff oh yeah and then let them stack dmg mods yeah reeaaalllll smart what about the heavies with that if i get caught for 2 seconds im done for no just no sensei is disapiont yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy

Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 98	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:17:00 - [11] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Not a great idea because all weapons are not the problem. Laser taking a 15% damage penalty ultimately means less DPS before overheat, the weapon is already bad right now. HMG and Shotgunners should auto-win in CQC, Shotgunners need all the damage they can get. MD rounds become a joke. Snipers quit the game. Lol Plasma Cannons. Then there are multiple sidearms that take hits for no reason. Meanwhile the Rifle will still take less than 2 seconds to kill someone from 0-60+ meters. "Damage nerf across the board" will only widen the gap between Rifles and all other weapons in the game. The problem isn't TTK, it's Rifles. Is that.. One of those thought out ideas I've heard once roamed these forums??? I thought they were a myth. omg the feels some1 that is actully inteligent on the forums you can tell by my horrid spelling i am not one of those few yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3097	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:19:00 - [12] - Quote That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults. Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1531	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:21:00 - [13] - Quote that would defeat the point to heavies... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:23:00 - [14] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: that would defeat the point to heavies... Hey, look, another thought. And, its another valid point. +1 xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 69	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:27:00 - [15] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Not a great idea because all weapons are not the problem. Laser taking a 15% damage penalty ultimately means less DPS before overheat, the weapon is already bad right now. HMG and Shotgunners should auto-win in CQC, Shotgunners need all the damage they can get. MD rounds become a joke. Snipers quit the game. Lol Plasma Cannons. Then there are multiple sidearms that take hits for no reason. Meanwhile the Rifle will still take less than 2 seconds to kill someone from 0-60+ meters. "Damage nerf across the board" will only widen the gap between Rifles and all other weapons in the game. The problem isn't TTK, it's Rifles. Okay, so UP weapons like laser rifle, mass driver, etc. Would be exempt Rifles are not the only things in game that can melt you in an instant. GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 69	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:28:00 - [16] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: that would defeat the point to heavies... With dmg resistance, massive HP, and an HMG that's impossible to beat CQC 1v1, how does this make heavies obsolete again GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 70	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:29:00 - [17] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults. Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Wow a class made for killing may be better at killing than anyone else that isn't a heavy in CQC? Who woulda thought GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1531	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:40:00 - [18] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: D legendary hero wrote: that would defeat the point to heavies... With dmg resistance, massive HP, and an HMG that's impossible to beat CQC 1v1, how does this make heavies obsolete again an AR can still kill a heavy with an HMG (without damage mods or proficiency) in 3 seconds or less. scouts and logi's would be instantly obliterated by assaults and a single assault suit with this bonus plus damage mods will completely annihilate heavies. observe: heavies will only be getting a max of 10% resistance to one type of damage profile. with this blanket 10% buff you neutralize their 10% resistance to the specific damage profile (shield resistance for example) and stil do 10% more to the profile they dnt have resistance with. on top of that with damage mods, more range and higher manuverability one assault suit can just single handledly thrash a heavy suit as fast as a scout. this has happened before, and is happening now. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 70	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:46:00 - [19] - Quote And the HMG in it's effective range can kill you in a half second Heavies lose at range? Wow who woulda thought. GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 430	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:49:00 - [20] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board Tell me this isn't a great idea. It's a BAD idea. Weapons just CAN'T all receive 15% nerf. It will keep balance problem between weapons. (Rifles and others) It will make AV weapons even worse. It would make nades too powerful compaired to others way of kill. Not all weapons deserve a 15% nerf that's stupid. Assault are not meant to be "MOAR DAMAGE" they're meant to use their weapons BETTER. Commandos are meant to be "MOAR DAMAGE" not assaulters. Assaulters are a versatile units (don't forget Logi is going to be Nerfhammered) pretty fast unit (compaired to commandos) capable of movement / flanking and that know how to hold their weapons to optimize them. They can fit weapons to use the less PG/CPU from them. (The 5% PG/CPU reduction on weapons bonus they're gonna have soon). They have a good base ehp to make them able to fit OTHERS modules than (damagers/plates/shield extender) making thme a versatile unit. Less PG/CPU from their wepaons means they willbe able to fit some extra life AND something like a dampener/hack/melee or something else making them the most versatile unit. Not just a dumb class : "MOAR DAMAGE MOAR EHP BECAUZ LOL WUT" And to finish weapons don't just need an adjustment on damage. They need changmeent about their way of play. Exemple : Just nerfing rail rifles by his damage would be pretty dumb. A small damage nerf is useless and a too big make it useless. Should be a small nerf to damage AND lowermag/twice more charge up. We can't make a "general" nerf on ONE THING. We must change weapons ONE BY ONE.

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2182	Posted - 2014.02.09 18:54:00 - [21] - Quote Instantly neglected cause you are advocating a nerf to allready weak AV. So i take it you are a tanker. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
voidfaction Void of Faction 135	Posted - 2014.02.09 19:49:00 - [22] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board Tell me this isn't a great idea. I take it you never run as a scout. Dmg reduction does near nothing to improve the TTK of scouts but greatly increases the chance of scouts target to turn and kill them. hipfire dispersion, kick, aim assist nerf would do the same for TTK and reward those that actually aim without any dmg reduction. assault bonus are even in line with this because they allow the assault to do more dmg over time and still allow scouts that have more time to aim with surprise and scan to take down a target.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3098	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:26:00 - [23] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults. Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Wow a class made for killing may be better at killing than anyone else that isn't a heavy in CQC? Who woulda thought Wow it's sad how you feel like the assault class needs such a crutch of a bonus Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 70	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:38:00 - [24] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults. Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Wow a class made for killing may be better at killing than anyone else that isn't a heavy in CQC? Who woulda thought Wow it's sad how you feel like the assault class needs such a crutch of a bonus Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game? GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3099	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:46:00 - [25] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game? Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
Forever ETC Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:47:00 - [26] - Quote Each weapon needs to be fixed separately. They all have different purposes and pros n cons. Such as the Combat Rifle should be focused in short-mid range hence Combat. Forge guns need to be buffed since the charge isn't worth the kick.
iOwn AE Glitchers Kinsho Swords Caldari State 70	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:00:00 - [27] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game? Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Im not reg, but he is my partner in crime. Scouts are viable because of two eq slots and cloak, logis viable because of equip slots and tons of highs and low, heavies viable from massive HP and CQC DPS, assault viable because of....reload speed? GG was VERY easy I slay for the Empress AE is my punching bag
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3103	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:18:00 - [28] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game? Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Im not reg, but he is my partner in crime. Scouts are viable because of two eq slots and cloak, logis viable because of equip slots and tons of highs and low, heavies viable from massive HP and CQC DPS, assault viable because of....reload speed? I concede that the calssault bonus sucks Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
voidfaction Void of Faction 135	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:29:00 - [29] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game? Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Im not reg, but he is my partner in crime. Scouts are viable because of two eq slots and cloak, logis viable because of equip slots and tons of highs and low, heavies viable from massive HP and CQC DPS, assault viable because of....reload speed? that is only one assault bonus. less dispersion/kick means more hits. more ammo means more dmg over time. less heat means more dmg over time. the caldari bonus does suck.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1536	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:38:00 - [30] - Quote iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: And the HMG in it's effective range can kill you in a half second Heavies lose at range? Wow who woulda thought. thats after initial spooling which is about 1.5 seconds. and only if the assault stands perfectly still. so yeah that two-step side stepping bullshit still works. ARs are great at all ranges? who knew? Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça



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