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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 17:55:00 -
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Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board
Tell me this isn't a great idea.
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:01:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Just a blanket damage increase to all weapons?
Kind of murdering the commando bonus when you do that. Point taken. Railgun dmg for cal, laser for amarr, etc. Would be perfectly acceptable
We need something to give assaults better slaying capability and reload speed is not it.
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:27:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Not a great idea because all weapons are not the problem. Laser taking a 15% damage penalty ultimately means less DPS before overheat, the weapon is already bad right now. HMG and Shotgunners should auto-win in CQC, Shotgunners need all the damage they can get. MD rounds become a joke. Snipers quit the game. Lol Plasma Cannons. Then there are multiple sidearms that take hits for no reason.
Meanwhile the Rifle will still take less than 2 seconds to kill someone from 0-60+ meters. "Damage nerf across the board" will only widen the gap between Rifles and all other weapons in the game. The problem isn't TTK, it's Rifles. Okay, so UP weapons like laser rifle, mass driver, etc. Would be exempt
Rifles are not the only things in game that can melt you in an instant.
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:28:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:that would defeat the point to heavies... With dmg resistance, massive HP, and an HMG that's impossible to beat CQC 1v1, how does this make heavies obsolete again
GG was VERY easy
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:29:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults.
Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Wow a class made for killing may be better at killing than anyone else that isn't a heavy in CQC? Who woulda thought
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:46:00 -
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And the HMG in it's effective range can kill you in a half second
Heavies lose at range? Wow who woulda thought.
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:38:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:iOwn AE Glitchers wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:That doesn't solve jack **** All you do is nerf everyone equally and then put the assault on a pedestal with an innate complex damage module so everyone would just die to assaults.
Would solve the 1.8 heavy/scout epidemic but then this would just remain Assault 514 Wow a class made for killing may be better at killing than anyone else that isn't a heavy in CQC? Who woulda thought Wow it's sad how you feel like the assault class needs such a crutch of a bonus Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me
If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game?
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 21:00:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me
If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game?
Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Im not reg, but he is my partner in crime. Scouts are viable because of two eq slots and cloak, logis viable because of equip slots and tons of highs and low, heavies viable from massive HP and CQC DPS, assault viable because of....reload speed?
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:37:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:iOwn AE Glitchers wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:iOwn AE Glitchers wrote: Im a top ten assault in the game and I'm tired of logis being able to go toe to toe with me
If these stand ill go 700 armor gallente scout standing in triage hives while cloaked, is that the future you want for this game?
Go for it I don't give two ***** I was opposed to the cloak so go ahead and make my case but your solution to slayer logis is to try and make assault suits the only logical choice? You need to advocate balance not what's best for you, reg Im not reg, but he is my partner in crime. Scouts are viable because of two eq slots and cloak, logis viable because of equip slots and tons of highs and low, heavies viable from massive HP and CQC DPS, assault viable because of....reload speed? that is only one assault bonus. less dispersion/kick means more hits. more ammo means more dmg over time. less heat means more dmg over time. the caldari bonus does suck. Damage over time when you lose 700 EHP in one second does NOTHING for assaults
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:38:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:i dnt understand why slayer logi's are such a problem. Logi suits are literally assault suits with no side arm and 2 extra equipment slots. thats it...
are you telling me that Logi suits should have no capability to defend themselves? Then assault suits shoudln't have an equipment slot. They should be able to defend themselves, but not better than an assault.
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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iOwn AE Glitchers
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:41:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:iOwn AE Glitchers wrote:Solves the slayer logi, makes assault better slayers than any other class, and slightly increases TTK across the board
Tell me this isn't a great idea. Actually, your idea, in my opinion doesnGÇÖt solve either issue and will only instigate the community to start screaming for a nerf bat to be used on the assaults. These issues that everyone brings up about GÇ£how a real logi is supposed to beGÇ¥ and GÇ£this is an assaultGÇÖs jobGÇ¥ crap is the same story that has been going on in this game since closed Beta. The issue that is really adding to fuel tot this fire is the fact that racial variants of all suits, and quite honestly the basic complement of suits, weapons, and vehicles is not even released. Since this is the case, balancing and the establishment of roles can not be accomplished, no matter how many times you swing the nerf bat around and start breaking the china in this china cabinet. If the game is not producing the result you want, find an alternate solution to the issue instead of attempting to pigeon hole those around you into a box of your own devising so that you can feel better about yourself and and perceived lack of skill and ability to problem solve on the fly. Do us all a favor, and let your sack drop. Grow up. LetGÇÖs look at the issues at hand critically instead of being reactionary. If you don't think logis should be primarily support you don't understand game balance.
Again, im top ten assault in the game even though a logi can do my job better, I'm not trying to force anyone into anything, I'm trying to avoid 1.8 becoming heavy scout 514
GG was VERY easy
I slay for the Empress
AE is my punching bag
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