popcorn empty... time to substitute with chocolate covered almonds....

You had the choice of saying R*S could be a valueable addition to PFC but you choose to STFU. Again goes back to my point about PFC Council being opiniated.

I could've said that, but that wouldn't have been my opinion either. My opinion was somewhat neutral, though leaning on "allow them the chance to break or follow the rules in the new system, even if they're probably a bad fit". As it wasn't particularly driven either way, and actual council voters had already indicated a similar view, I didn't decide to back either view in the discussion, though as the conversation moved from the forums to a chat channel, I ensured that view was presented as representative of some of the views held by council members who had posted about it.

I have some manner of desire not to intentionally influence the council's opinion too heavily. The council was torn, and at this juncture, it wasn't a decision that had majority support. The Council currently hasn't made a solid decision yet on what they feel the requirements for a PFC participant corp should be. (With regards to level of experience, duration of participation, ties to alliances, outside landownership, etc.) As those rules become more concrete, and more members participate actively in the Council process, R*S may be able to acquire one in the future.

Sentient, you do realize CPM is an out-of-game position, and anything pertaining to alliances, corps, districts, etc. is an entirely in-game position, right? (I'm not trying to get you to vote for me, and you should definitely vote, regardless of who you vote for, but please, do learn the difference, it's very important.)

Valor Coalition has actually peacefully ceded their district to a newer corporation.

Honestly, if you got to know me, you might feel different. I more than welcome you to contact me privately at any point for... really any reason. I know Spero is someone, who I think, looks very different in public posts than in chat. (Though he's always logical and rational, in any medium.) I'm emailable, Skypable, in-game chattable, etc.

My reasoning is simple: This PFC model is in my opinion, a good thing, and it works for my players in my alliance. Folks I know, respect, and honestly want to have a great time on the game. So I want it to succeed, and am doing what I can to help.

Negative-Feedback will respect the council's decision in this matter as it will offer the same respect given to any official council rulings. I'm sorry that you don't agree with the council, but this is part of PFC being ruled by the members of the planet.

I'm sure you can understand with current posts from Red Star such as:



Negative-Feedback would be more than happy to facilitate Red Star landing a district somewhere else in Molden Heath and again thanks them for their interest.

You cannot place judgement based on how certain people think.

You can not pass judgement on what you think a corp will do in the future. If Red Star. commits any rule breaking then let the council pass judgement and remove the corp from pfc. Until that happens, the ruling is unjustified and you know it.

Think about it this way, if we really wanted pfc to burn dont you think we would have done it back when it was first founded??? we did after all start thinking that way since the beginning. The difference was that those in charge weren't emotional fools letting their "feelings" cloud their morality.

We have always been an advocate of burning pfc. It's all in good fun.

It comes down to council corps being scared to fight us. Thats it. most of you guys are to new to know anything about me or my corp.

O FFS NaNo get off it. you would sooner burn the F@#ker down than anyone around.

Glad to see R*S back, hopefully you get them whipped into shape and once again a force around here.

But coming in taking the 'I like PFC, I will play by the 'rules' I'm all about walking the line'

sorry bro too many of us know you all too well.

Get a district somewhere and get to work. EZmode exited stage left shortly after you guys moved on to PS4

Welcome Back, now HTFU

Yes they can, and they will.



Yes they can, and they will. If you break the rules then the police have to spend their moneys to kick you out. Consider the denial of your request a form of budgetary management. lol



Perhaps your ego's have allowed you to believe that you could have accomplished burning PFC to the ground way back wednesday... but never actually did. R* was decent, if not pretty good.. but ya'll were never top tier.. I doubt you all could have pulled it off to be honest.

And after all that, I will leave you with one final snugglz quote



Play stupid forum games, win stupid forum prizes. Do you think they would openly invite terrorists to the grand opening of the freedom towers? Welcome to new eden, I think all that time in that dropship of yours has caused acute brain damage or something.

the only way to prove it is to show up. You want us to prove it but are not willing to give us the opportunity to do it. Explain to me how that works again???

The mighty failmore throwing in the towel so quickly? cmon dude, you just trolling all of us or do you really want in on this legitimately. If troll, well played if not...

Maybe Kane would accept a large sum of isk as a deposit, call it a good behavior guarantee.. and they can hold it in escrow until a future time, maybe 1 month? of solid PFC activity by the rules.. then you get it back and go from there?

Money was not the issue, and Kane doesn't actually get a vote. Right now, our internal processes are a bit incomplete for holding votes. It may be warranted to reapply once we get that sorted. It is something that I would like to see addressed rapidly.