Link?

You really ought to provide a link when making claims such as these...

Edit: Ah. There it is.

And the only good bonuses are the Amarr and Minmatar.

Gallente - Shotgun is the only one who can benefit from this bonus. AR is already pretty damn accurate, plasmacannonlol.

Caldari - I've said it before and I'll say it again, reloading at long range is a non issue.
You have all the time in the world.


These two bonuses are so insubstantive that I'm considering moving to Gallente scouts.
And before anyone says anything, do the math, scouts are going to be amazing combat units.

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Amarr weapons are mostly held back by heat issues, if they have that removed, they're god like and nothing can stop their weaponry.

Minmatar weapons are mostly held back by small clips. The bonuses fix that. (AND explosive spam is going to happen)

Gallente weapons are far from being held back by dispersion.

Caldari weapons have no need for fast reloads at the distances they operate at.

Soooooo Caldari is just back to its original uprising 1.0 bonus? A bonus so useless I hope CCP are trolling. What happened to our shield extender bonus? You know the only one making the suit even remotely viable?

I disagree. These bonuses seem good to me. Those Minmatar and Amarr bonuses ARE mouthwatering (I'm looking forward to my 8 round flaylock , but the Gallente Bonus and Caldari bonus will both be strong in their own rights.

Lets start with the Caldari bonus:

You reload 25% faster. Since Rail weapons typically have the longest reload times, this is actually a great buff to them. Never underplay the ability to put more rounds downrange. This could turn the Caldari into a suppression machine. Have a Cal Assault sit on top of a Proto Hive from about 80m back and just let loose. Peg anybody who DARES to step out of cover.

Reload speeds without putting points into them (just the class bonus)?

Proto Rail Rifle: 2.4s. You now reload faster than a Combat Rifle. Reload V = 1.92s
Magsec: 2.4s. Again, faster than the SMG. By a wide margin. Reload V = 1.92s
Sniper Rifle: 3s. If the Reload speeds have no penalty, then you can get this down to 2.4s reload on a sniper rifle. DAMN.

In short, the Caldari will be an amazing long range suppression unit, capable of holding objectives from a distance, and being an excellent roadblock for advancing troops. You will be in his optimal first, remember that.

Gallente:

Dispersion and Kick 5% per level.

Okay, if the weapon skills stay the same, this would mean that a Fully Specced out Gal Assault will have a 50% reduction to kick and Dispersion. So what will this do? It will turn every Gallente Assault rifle into a hipfire MONSTER.

Think about it, you could go through an entire clip of AR from the hip with AMAZING accuracy. This thing will CHEW through a squad of targets if you damage mod the sucker. I have a feeling that this class (when combined with it's regen tanking) will become the go to class for CQC combat, able to quickly engage targets, drop them with a firestorm of plasma, and regen fast enough to take on multiple waves of targets or to quickly and relentlessly assault a command post.

Minmatar:

My baby. Minmatar 4 Life. This is what I will spec into on the side (I main a Minmatar Scout, but I'm a really aggressive scout)

Anyways. 25% extra clip size for the SMG and CR (ACR as well). Mass Drivers will get 11 shots (Assault will get 13, prepare for area denial champs). My beloved Flaylock will get an 8 round clip (this will patch it's notorious problem of being unable to kill in a clip, but it really needs a damage buff anyways. Separate discussion though.)

So, what does this mean? It eliminates a major drawback of the Projectile weapons. The CR will get 68 round clip (22 Bursts and a 2 round burst). The ACR will get an amazing 85 round clip (4.25s to empty the clip. DPC goes up to 1972 unmodified).

Explosive weapons will be a major force for a Minmatar. Expect to see some Area Denial Specialists in 1.8, as they will be able to shut down areas for an extended period of time. I love it, more tactics. So long as they don't buff the damage on MD's, this should be fine, as it won't kill you before you can react, but it will for SURE make you move (lest you become a statistic).

Amarr

Yeah. Same as usual. SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.

You have nothing to hold you back. Probably the strongest bonus of them all (in conjunction with the CPU/PG reduction they get, Amarr's will be tough cookies to crack in 1.8. Expect them to be armor tanked to heck with damage mods as usual.)

I imagine Aero is jumping for joy somewhere. Anyways, scramblers aren't my area of expertise, so I'll let someone else go on about the buffs here.



So yeah, that's my take on this. I don't think the bonuses will be useless, it will just change the role of the assault that we know.

Not better or worse. Just Different.

A. The suit is viable right now, my Caldari assault build is perfectly viable.

B. The bonus isn't as low as it was.
Uprising 1.0 was 2% per level.

Uprising 1.8 is 5% per level.

Its viable now because it has a shield extender bonus, if we lose that our tank is reduced even more then it already is. If we stack more extenders on it to compensate we lose damage output due to not being able to use damage mods and the shield recharge delay is increase due to the stacking penalty of extenders. We shouldn't be forced to armor tank our suits even more then we already are forced to.

Link?

EDIT: Thanks for link. I'm agreed with your take on the bonuses. I actually think Amarr Assault could have its bonus reduced to 4%, tbh...

I like muc of it, naturally though ez mode caldari players can't stop whining.

Give them a bonus to offset their weakness, what do you get? "Give meh bonus of 10% for extender!"

I guarantee you the minmatar assault is getting nerfed, especially if anything remotely useful for CR'a and/or 'da noob toobs' comes out.
Amarr i don't even know. Currently i'm running un-bonused midframe with CRW, i don't really wish "wow, wanna spam up to 20 shots, instead of 16!"
Gallente's AR has the worst dispersion, this is good in a way, as its' hit ratio is improved- for bad users.
Tightening that hipfire means my Gk-13 i've been trying out would fire like a rail rifle. My gek would fire like its' own breach.
How that effects plasmas and shotties... I don't know, are assaults supposed to run PLC's? Or is that a commando only thing?
Shotguns i almost find the spread reduction as an insult for shotties, turns them into 4m optimal sniper rifles.

I can't advocate for the other races, but Minmatar assaults' bonus might bring me back to the role, previously i was thinking entirely scout/commando.

Until they fix the reload glitch it is a worthless bonus. When you go from getting the worthless bonus you have being buffed by 15% to a respectable level back to this even more worthless bonus why would we be happy?

Two clicks(mag in>smack mag), then sprint.

Assault ck.0 here! o/

These bonuses are utter crap.

Have a nice day.

Honestly I'd love to see gallente get +10% armor repairer efficacy per level - basic reps will fiction like adv with proto assault skill, adv will function like proto, and proto is "don't let this guy out of your sight ever", it really fits the races close quarters doctrine and would potentially let an assault run around with 2 reppers, 3 plates and a shotgun and have it be really viable.

I mean ideally the dropsuit skill should make every suit you wear in that category do what it does better - the current s outs and future scouts are like this, the future logis are very much like this as are the future heavies... Some of the assaults just seem a little left behind.

I love the minmatar bonuses, I love the amarr bonuses, the caldari and gallente need a bit of work.

How about 5% instead? That's what the current Amarr Logi gets, I don't know why you think it should be doubled just because its an assault suit.

Current logi also gets +1hp/sec on top of that, without that it amounts to about 2.5hp/sec if you're running 2 proto reps

--.-- yo CCP **** dat reload bonus, give me something worthwhile or give me my damn points back.

I disagree. These bonuses seem good to me. Those Minmatar and Amarr bonuses ARE mouthwatering (I'm looking forward to my 8 round flaylock , but the Gallente Bonus and Caldari bonus will both be strong in their own rights.

Gallente:

Dispersion and Kick 5% per level.

Okay, if the weapon skills stay the same, this would mean that a Fully Specced out Gal Assault will have a 50% reduction to kick and Dispersion. So what will this do? It will turn every Gallente Assault rifle into a hipfire MONSTER.

Think about it, you could go through an entire clip of AR from the hip with AMAZING accuracy. This thing will CHEW through a squad of targets if you damage mod the sucker. I have a feeling that this class (when combined with it's regen tanking) will become the go to class for CQC combat, able to quickly engage targets, drop them with a firestorm of plasma, and regen fast enough to take on multiple waves of targets or to quickly and relentlessly assault a command post.

The Gallente Assault is probably getting +3hp/s, not quite 5, but still respectable. +50% efficacy for a module, any module, is a bit much.