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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2014.02.07 18:37:00 -
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i believe all equipment should be used strategically not spammed to the point of being a crutch. all equipment has a certain number of uses, except the rep tool. if the scanners had been something you could place on the ground and would last until it was destroyed, it would be much more balanced and not abused like the active scanners are.
anyone else agree? or should we keep stealth out of the game?
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ugg reset
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
479
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Posted - 2014.02.07 19:15:00 -
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scanners are too tacticlal, don't believe me? try using one in a fire fight and see how long you last. also rep tools and injectors don't use amo bro.
Scouts use scanners to give non-scouts a false sense of security. If you want stealth, spec into it.* caution, requires basic math.
that and I've been told form a reliable source that the "spin to win" scanning technique will be disappearing next build.
HTFU?
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2247
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:44:00 -
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I don't mind scanners tbqh, just get some dampeners or a cloak if you want to sneak, otherwise be visible anyways scanners are getting nerfed.
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
163
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:55:00 -
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To be honest I will be sad when scanners won't be able to do 360 scans, right now people place too much confidence in them and my shotty scout teaches them the meaning of true situational awareness  |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
179
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:38:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:To be honest I will be sad when scanners won't be able to do 360 scans, right now people place too much confidence in them and my shotty scout teaches them the meaning of true situational awareness
Yup, scanners getting a nerf is weird indirect nerf to my playstyle; a 'scan prevented' kinda means 'go kill nao!' to me.
Experienced/better players are going to more cautious (e.g they already learn to cover each other when hacking after I double/triple Kill them the first time round) and the less experienced players are either gonna be directionless or charge at any red chevron that pops up.
Deployable scanners would be the proverbial **** though (had no idea that word was censored here...).
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abarkrishna
WarRavens
291
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Posted - 2014.02.09 02:56:00 -
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No you should skill into profile dampening like everyone else.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.09 05:01:00 -
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instead of handheld wish they where more like becons you plant on ground |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4049
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Posted - 2014.02.09 05:17:00 -
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Yes, yes they should. They should be replaced by very obvious short ranged scanners, that are peaceable.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
262
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:21:00 -
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Removing content is literally the opposite of what you should do in a game that lacks content.
Instead of removing content, CCP should be adding new content and balancing what we have.
In this specific instance it seems like a new piece of equipment that inhibits scans (passive and active) would find a nice place on the battlefield. It could even be a deployable.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1115
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:43:00 -
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I agree with Kig - removing content is a bad idea.
Don't remove them, just make them less effective. They should scan instantly then take a second or so to process the results before displaying. This would get rid of spin-scanning, and the info you get would be slightly out of date and would not update.
I'd also like to see "scan locator" passive dropsuit modules. If you have one of these on your suit and you get scanned, the location of the scanner is revealed on your minimap (and also for your squad mates).
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1151
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Posted - 2014.02.09 16:48:00 -
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My only quarrel with active scanners (other than the 360 spin scan which is being fixed) is that they don't put the user at risk while giving them easy kills. Anyone using an active scanner should light up to the enemy, with the duration based on their own profile. Whatever the scanner uses to ping dropsuits should be detectable by dropsuits and traceable back to the origin. It's practically the same as sonar: you send out a ping to detect your surroundings, but anyone in the near surroundings can pick up your ping.
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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
421
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:31:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Removing content is literally the opposite of what you should do in a game that lacks content.
Instead of removing content, CCP should be adding new content and balancing what we have.
In this specific instance it seems like a new piece of equipment that inhibits scans (passive and active) would find a nice place on the battlefield. It could even be a deployable.
it would be nice if they added an anti scanner into the equipment. deploy a small bubble that completely counters all scan attempts.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
454
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:42:00 -
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They're getting changed, you will no longer be able to just spin around and scan the whole field, this should reduce the amount of people using scanners significantly as well as their usefulness.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
432
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:46:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:i believe all equipment should be used strategically not spammed to the point of being a crutch. all equipment has a certain number of uses, except the rep tool. if the scanners had been something you could place on the ground and would last until it was destroyed, it would be much more balanced and not abused like the active scanners are.
anyone else agree? or should we keep stealth out of the game?
They just need a little balance.
They're ABSOLUTELY not working as intended.
I don't think we were supposed to be able to scan at 360-¦ if we turn on ourself. |
Kazig
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
12
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:55:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:I agree with Kig - removing content is a bad idea.
Don't remove them, just make them less effective. They should scan instantly then take a second or so to process the results before displaying. This would get rid of spin-scanning, and the info you get would be slightly out of date and would not update.
I'd also like to see "scan locator" passive dropsuit modules. If you have one of these on your suit and you get scanned, the location of the scanner is revealed on your minimap (and also for your squad mates).
I'm not a fan of the out of date scan information you suggested, but the "scan locator" module would be great! |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2615
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:01:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:scanners are too tacticlal, don't believe me? try using one in a fire fight and see how long you last. also rep tools and injectors don't use amo bro.
Scouts use scanners to give non-scouts a false sense of security. If you want stealth, spec into it.* caution, requires basic math.
that and I've been told form a reliable source that the "spin to win" scanning technique will be disappearing next build.
HTFU?
*claps hands*
Bravo old chap, tally ho! 
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
6769
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:14:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:scanners are too tacticlal, don't believe me? try using one in a fire fight and see how long you last. also rep tools and injectors don't use amo bro.
Scouts use scanners to give non-scouts a false sense of security. If you want stealth, spec into it.* caution, requires basic math.
that and I've been told form a reliable source that the "spin to win" scanning technique will be disappearing next build.
HTFU?
And by "reliable source" he means this...
Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread
CCP Frame wrote:
TL;DR Summary:
- Cooldown times on scanners increased. Scanner functionality has been improved to do GÇ£snapshotGÇ¥ scans in order to stop 360 degree spins.
- Range on repair tools reduced.
- Drop uplink spawn times increased.
- Nanohive nanite supply reduced.
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