OMG the RR is not OP. Everytime something gets kills its Op. Maybe yall just suck at being tactical. The SR been OP but do you think its ever gon get a nerf HELL NO its not its sad that the game I love to play is getting watered down every update because instead of players adjusting to in game situations they cry about OP this and OP that and makeing this game WACK. Its not easy to use that RR it jumps around like crazy and you only got 42 in the clip nerf this nerf that whats the point of even deploying new weapons. I can bet you this though most of these crybabies havent even put no money in to the game to show support but they sure complain the most. Ive done spent way more money than I ever have in any game in my life and I don't understand terms like "proto stomping" what is that really aome body who plays this game better than you??? I die a bunch by all types of weapons and equipment and its not the RR thats killing me because to dont put myself in situations where the RR would have an affective line of site on me, but to avoid the RR (which I use everyday) I run in to the CR and AR in the tight spaces I die we all die and we die alot its says it right there I movie. All im saying is I adjust to the battle and maps and the flow of the reds I play the game I dint want the easy way out CCP reputation is not "we make easy games" this game is tough and its not for most people, New Eden was heading into the future but with all these buffs and nerfs seems like we on a treadmill.

I use to have a problem with tanks but I leveled up my AV grenades and now if I cant kill a tank at least those EX-11 a run him off for a few. I adjusted to the game why cant you do the same. We should be further down the road in this game with features and the goodies we were promised those many years ago when the first trailer was shown.

PS. Just because you have a proto suit your base pg and cpu wont allow you to fit your dropsuit properly to be an official Proto, your basically running a 62k advance suit its not the weapons being OP.

CCP disregard all these slow people and keep the RR just the way it is. They just wanna be like the "Jones" think about not dying instead of killing and see how far you will go.

The rail rifle is running rampant.
It is by far the most used weapon in the game. Its like noob tubes were back in MW2. You just hear that gun going off non-stop, because 30/32 players in the match are using it. Its not necessarily OP because of the damage it outputs, but because of the ease of use to achieve that DPS.

The fact that a FULLY AUTOMATIC weapon can do a base of 55 damage(starting) is down right nonsensical. If you do the numbers with the basic models of the weapons, you'll see the Rail Rifle is outstanding.

Damage-Per-Second (DPS)

Assault Rifle- 400
Assault Scrambler Rifle- 444
Assault Combat Rifle- 440
Assault Rail Rifle- 450

Breach Assault Rifle- 340
Rail Rifle- 423 83 DPS more than its counterpart; unbalanced.

It wouldn't be so bad, but it's effective range is the highest of the rifles, and it has a amazingly accurate hipfire also making it just as effective as any rifle at very close range.

The only rifle that can compete with either Rail Rifle is the Tactical Scrambler Rifle, because of the amount of alpha damage it can produce.
Tactical Scrambler Rifle- 847

However, the TacSCR is impossible to achieve that DPS without a modded controller. Just like the Combat Rifle has a DPS of 640. The 1200 rpm on the CR is impossible to achieve.

Granted as well, all DPS statistics can only be applied to full automatic weapons, and with the intent that every bullet hits. But it would appear that dispersion on the rifles is exactly the same as tested by players.

The Laser Rifle was new in Chromosome.
It wasn't widely used until the very end of Chromosome.

The Plasma Cannon was new.
It still isn't widely used.

The Scrambler Rifle was new in 1.0
It wasn't widely used right out of the box.

Your argument is bad. The RR and CR are OP.

Rrs were fine. The problem was the losers using 3 proto damage mods so you could kill people with 7-8 bullets.
Basic rr by itself with no mods is fine.

The CR isn't as OP as people think. Firing the burst variant while scoped gives crazy kick if you don't pace out the trigger squeezes. The Assault variant does less DPS then the AR but what makes it appear more powerful is that the AR does 110% damage vs shields and 90% damage vs armor were as the CR does 90% to shields and 110% to armor. Most of the game armor tanks their suits making the CR the better choice. If people start shield tanking the AR would be the better choice.

"It isn't the gun, its the damage mods!" We've seen this argument before.

You are mostly correct. The CR is still OP simply because it is in the 'rifle' class of weapons, just like the other rifles. Judging by what we've heard from CCP, I get the impression that all the rifles will get nerfed in 1.8 though, so this might not be an issue.
The CR also does 95% shield damage, not 90%.

Rrs were fine. The problem was the losers using 3 proto damage mods so you could kill people with 7-8 bullets.
Basic rr by itself with no mods is fine.

Moved to Features and Ideas Discussion.

Also, the Rail Rifle is getting hit with the nerf bat and will have lower damage in 1.8

(You're welcome)

Moved to Features and Ideas Discussion.

Also, the Rail Rifle is getting hit with the nerf bat and will have lower damage in 1.8

(You're welcome)

Wouldn't a higher spool up time have been enough to nerf the rail rifle?

That's okay provided you're also nerfing ScR and CR. Even now a skilled ScR or CR user destroys a (similarly skilled) RR user at anything except long range.

The basic issue is that those three weapons outclass everything else. In particular, AR needs to be the go-to for short range and LR the go-to for long range. At present they are dominated even in their supposed niches.

CR is getting nerfed, no idea about the SCR

So if I use 3 proto damage mods with a Tac-AR It will be OP? That must be why so many use the Tac-AR too.

So if I use 3 proto damage mods with a Tac-AR It will be OP? That must be why so many use the Tac-AR too.

Source for CR nerf?

Keep in mind this isn't the only change to rifles, and this is part of the larger effort to tackle the TTK problem. We'll have more details soon.

Moved to Features and Ideas Discussion.

Also, the Rail Rifle is getting hit with the nerf bat and will have lower damage in 1.8

(You're welcome)

EDIT: Since lots of people aren't reading my later post, this is just one change among many. Details soon.

I hope HMG and SMG (magsec included) are part of this balance pass or you are working in vain and just shifting OP'ness to another area.

Damage-Per-Second (DPS)[/u]

Assault Rifle- 400
Assault Scrambler Rifle- 444
Assault Combat Rifle- 440
Assault Rail Rifle- 450

Breach Assault Rifle- 340
Rail Rifle- 423 83 DPS more than its counterpart; unbalanced.

Moved to Features and Ideas Discussion.

Also, the Rail Rifle is getting hit with the nerf bat and will have lower damage in 1.8

(You're welcome)

EDIT: Since lots of people aren't reading my later post, this is just one change among many. Details soon.