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KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1758	Posted - 2014.02.04 08:41:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
xXCleopatra FlippantXx Red Star. EoN. 44	Posted - 2014.02.04 08:50:00 - [2] - Quote cool game, I remember it well. Hey, no more AR, MD Laser rifle. Goodbye old friends =P
KrazyEyeKilla Nyain San Renegade Alliance 28	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:01:00 - [3] - Quote Always thought Manus Peak in ambush in the older smaller version was the most enjoyable time in Dust.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1819	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:13:00 - [4] - Quote Somehow I don't think your enemies enjoyed it one bit. Even back then proto stomping was prelevant. The only thing I would say is the TTK was better back then. Battles were more drawnout, even matches could hould out for as long as 45mins, 1v1 engagements seemeed to take a lifeime. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1759	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:26:00 - [5] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Somehow I don't think your enemies enjoyed it one bit. Even back then proto stomping was prelevant. The only thing I would say is the TTK was better back then. Battles were more drawnout, even matches could hould out for as long as 45mins, 1v1 engagements seemeed to take a lifeime. You Call that a proto stomp???? Thats nothing at all. That was a fair fight for all involved and we were only 3 players after all. Besides, the SI dudes on the other team didn't have such a bad game. No a proper stomp involves 50-80 kills on one side and 10 Deaths or less on the other side. So far I've played 3 80 clone ambushes without my team losing a single clone, we even came very Close in a Skirmish once, 2 Deaths I think. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 429	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:42:00 - [6] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Somehow I don't think your enemies enjoyed it one bit. Even back then proto stomping was prelevant. The only thing I would say is the TTK was better back then. Battles were more drawnout, even matches could hould out for as long as 45mins, 1v1 engagements seemeed to take a lifeime. You Call that a proto stomp???? Thats nothing at all. That was a fair fight for all involved and we were only 3 players after all. Besides, the SI dudes on the other team didn't have such a bad game. No a proper stomp involves 50-80 kills on one side and 10 Deaths or less on the other side. So far I've played 3 80 clone ambushes without my team losing a single clone, we even came very Close in a Skirmish once, 2 Deaths I think. You sound like a professional protostomper then... They had advanced gear at best, you had proto. Sorry, mate. That's protostomping. It wasn't a horrible stomping, but it was nonetheless. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6358	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:55:00 - [7] - Quote Protostomping before it was cool Who am I kidding, protostomping was always cool ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 806	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:58:00 - [8] - Quote Dat ttk! bites lower lip I want that back GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Banishment this World! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 921	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:15:00 - [9] - Quote I miss that map. It was one of the two places I dropped an orbital and got more than 16 kills Though what I actually miss is the 80 clone ambush. WE NEED 30 MORE! please? Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2241	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:19:00 - [10] - Quote i want that ttk back :( i even saw retreating was viable "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 258	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:21:00 - [11] - Quote KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Yea, but you always can grab militia dropship with scanners and find your enemys on battlefield now. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
8213 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1640	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:23:00 - [12] - Quote I don't think I like the game any better now, than I did then. But the game plays a lot better now than then. Anyone who says Chrome was the best build is probably psychotic and a tad dumb Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Orenji Jiji 348	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:32:00 - [13] - Quote KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
thomas mak STRONG-ARMED BANDITS 30	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:42:00 - [14] - Quote I like the small map size and balanced AV (1 shot LAV, 5 shot HAV) *Real tanker dies with their tanks!*
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative.. 439	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:03:00 - [15] - Quote Ah i got my revenge right at the end!! i remember that game. gg
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1480	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:03:00 - [16] - Quote I was in a Nyain match today, on their side. We had seven tanks on the battlefield. The match took ten minutes to win. Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 922	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:08:00 - [17] - Quote I miss spawning in the midst of 3 red guy. Scary when you had a sniper and no sidearm, hilarious when you had a shotgun or RE. (though it did help me learn to quick scope) Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected] (checked every Monday morning)
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative.. 439	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:33:00 - [18] - Quote anyone remember the days of finishing a match. your blood is pumping hard, shaking with adrenaline. i always had to have a smoke of the good stuff to calm my nerves. you actually had to think on where you were going to go. Sneaky or all guns blazing. today's version of the game imo is ruined with the scanner, the spam of tanks and the ttk.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1762	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:45:00 - [19] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Overusing cheap stuff like core locus nades? Really? Really? FU Orenji. I just spent 6 months playing witthout a nanohive FFS. And With todays TTK tossing that nade may just aswell be a Death sentence cause I normally Cook for 2-3 Seconds before tosisng, ample time to kill me With a militia AR or whatever. I don't in any way or form overuse Core locus nades, there are strings of several Battles where I don't toss a single one. Now that hitdetection is (over)fixed my gun is far more effective most of the time. "Try so hard against squadless NPC corp scrubs"? Again Really? I try to win every single Battle, every single engagement no matter what. (Well I do the occational trolling.) Every single good FPS player I've ever encountered has this attitude. I'm so sick of People telling me/us to tone Our game Down because we have to take into consideration the poor feelings of the lesser skilled and newer players. This is a jobb for CCP and everyones else, not me. It says a lot about the mentality of the Dust community when "trying hard" = doing what you can to win, loosing isk as a part of carrying the rest of team, using insanely expensive Equipment, and giving Your all in every fight is considered as a negative. I don't glitch, cheat, use modded Controllers, camp, snipe, tankspam, DS spam, camp on high positions or automatically uses the latest FOTM. I'm normally the dude sacrificing several suits to flush a camped enemy out of an easily defendable position. I'm a player that promotes fast paced "in Your face" gameplay, you know, FUN IMO. I'm not part of the crowd that brings the game Down to a longe range camp/snooze fest. Hell I don't even use dirty tactics like LAV/HMG combo, or Fatty/RR or whatever People do to get the current biggest crutch. Yes I do use a suit that has about 10-20% more EHP and more fancy Equipment than most, but then again, I very often go up against larger Groups of players. So going solo in proto vs lets say a Squad in Advanced gear and suddenly its Natural for me and indeed anyone that uses proto that taking that entire Squad Down alone is just damned easy, you know, cause I use proto.. Yeah I'm the big bad wolf ruining everyone's game. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1040	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:02:00 - [20] - Quote Like dancing around someone for minutes?

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 377	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:05:00 - [21] - Quote I miss that TTK too. The rest of the bugs, not so much. Bring back longer TTK. Puuullleeeezzzz!
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 671	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:08:00 - [22] - Quote That map! I remember running up the rocks and cleaning out the trash below. Chromosome was intense - when I didn't know what each player would bring and when black suits gave me fear. Shield of Cat Merc. (again)
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2374	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:28:00 - [23] - Quote OP says intensity Continues to show a lolambush No Intelligence is OP
Ironyimation Inception Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:47:00 - [24] - Quote Hurr durr this game is competitive so I use a proto caldari assault with a proto AR 24/7 I'm good. Good job guy, everyone can use proto gear, not even slightly hard. Closed Beta Veteran Explosives Fanatic, King of the penta-RE.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2358	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:54:00 - [25] - Quote I continue to be baffled by this bizarre hatred of proto gear. Use whatever you can, the difference in gear is negligible compared to bad decision making. Hail Satan
Ironyimation Inception Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:01:00 - [26] - Quote dent 308 wrote: I continue to be baffled by this bizarre hatred of proto gear. Use whatever you can, the difference in gear is negligible compared to bad decision making. I hope your joking, I use militia gear most of the time and I finish above average. I use full proto and my K/D ratio never dips below 10. So much respect for using these instant killing weapons. Closed Beta Veteran Explosives Fanatic, King of the penta-RE.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:03:00 - [27] - Quote Here I try to make a point about how the smaller maps used to make the game more intense and fun. You spawn in at the beginning, 2 Seconds later you spot Your first reddot and then there's hectic activety until the game finished. And all you crybabies can do is come and point out that I'm using a protosuit..... @English Snake - Yes ambush is definately on average the most intense of the pub game modes. Skirmish and dom are unfortunately mostly filled up With lots of players that does all they can to avoid a fight. There is much more camping on high ground, camping in the redline etc. And LOL Dom, me and Tosh played 6-7 games yesterday, just us 2 in Squad and 60-70% of those Battles the enemy team barely got within 100 M of the objective, there were plenty of snipers, rail redline tanks and dudes in turrets behind the redline. I don't think fighting for 2 minutes and then spending 10+ minutes to wait for the game to end as any form of intense, which is most of the games these days. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:06:00 - [28] - Quote Ironyimation Inception wrote: Hurr durr this game is competitive so I use a proto caldari assault with a proto AR 24/7 I'm good. Good job guy, everyone can use proto gear, not even slightly hard. You're very welcome to join Our "Rainbow Office" chat and Group up With me, lets see how easy it is and how much you can keep up With me, or indeed outperform me. Hell I'll even doubble Your isk loss. So tired of hearing "if I could be bothered to us proto it would be so easy to og 20-2 in any game, but I just can't be bothered so I'll stay n my enhanced suit and og 10-4, cause thats so much more impressive". Protosuits give a slight edge over enhanced yes, but come on, its not that big. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1007	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:09:00 - [29] - Quote Ironyimation Inception wrote: dent 308 wrote: I continue to be baffled by this bizarre hatred of proto gear. Use whatever you can, the difference in gear is negligible compared to bad decision making. I hope your joking, I use militia gear most of the time and I finish above average. I use full proto and my K/D ratio never dips below 10. So much respect for using these instant killing weapons. Hmm... Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:09:00 - [30] - Quote Ironyimation Inception wrote: dent 308 wrote: I continue to be baffled by this bizarre hatred of proto gear. Use whatever you can, the difference in gear is negligible compared to bad decision making. I hope your joking, I use militia gear most of the time and I finish above average. I use full proto and my K/D ratio never dips below 10. So much respect for using these instant killing weapons. There we go, wanna Group up With me and show it? I'll give you 100 M isk if you can get as many kills as I can during lets say 10 games and still have a 10 KDR. Thats a very good offer indeed. Boosting the KDR by playing it safe is very easy indeed. Keeping a high KDR while still being very aggressive and top the killboard in most games is not that easy. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1824	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:10:00 - [31] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Overusing cheap stuff like core locus nades? Really? Really? FU Orenji. I just spent 6 months playing witthout a nanohive FFS. And With todays TTK tossing that nade may just aswell be a Death sentence cause I normally Cook for 2-3 Seconds before tosisng, ample time to kill me With a militia AR or whatever. I don't in any way or form overuse Core locus nades, there are strings of several Battles where I don't toss a single one. Now that hitdetection is (over)fixed my gun is far more effective most of the time. "Try so hard against squadless NPC corp scrubs"? Again Really? I try to win every single Battle, every single engagement no matter what. (Well I do the occational trolling.) Every single good FPS player I've ever encountered has this attitude. I'm so sick of People telling me/us to tone Our game Down because we have to take into consideration the poor feelings of the lesser skilled and newer players. This is a jobb for CCP and everyones else, not me. It says a lot about the mentality of the Dust community when "trying hard" = doing what you can to win, loosing isk as a part of carrying the rest of team, using insanely expensive Equipment, and giving Your all in every fight is considered as a negative. I don't glitch, cheat, use modded Controllers, camp, snipe, tankspam, DS spam, camp on high positions or automatically uses the latest FOTM. I'm normally the dude sacrificing several suits to flush a camped enemy out of an easily defendable position. I'm a player that promotes fast paced "in Your face" gameplay, you know, FUN IMO. I'm not part of the crowd that brings the game Down to a longe range camp/snooze fest. Hell I don't even use dirty tactics like LAV/HMG combo, or Fatty/RR or whatever People do to get the current biggest crutch. Yes I do use a suit that has about 10-20% more EHP and more fancy Equipment than most, but then again, I very often go up against larger Groups of players. So going solo in proto vs lets say a Squad in Advanced gear and suddenly its Natural for me and indeed anyone that uses proto that taking that entire Squad Down alone is just damned easy, you know, cause I use proto.. Yeah I'm the big bad wolf ruining everyone's game. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good. Nice one Orenji, I think you hit a nerve. It's so funny when Protostompers get hump because people don't like them protostomping. Several Suits? You don't sacrifice anything Barbar, the people who sacrifice are those who play alone. The people who field the suits with a high risk of loosing them. The reason you don't find it fun is simple. You use a Combination of Wolf Packing, High Tiered Suits, High Damage Weapons and familiarity of the game against blues who run, lone wolf, low tier suits and low damage weapons. No wonder you get bored. I would get bored of such easy winning. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1572	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:12:00 - [32] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: i want that ttk back :( i even saw retreating was viable Yeep, turning back now after getting locked on is a death sentence. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 304	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:15:00 - [33] - Quote That was back in the chromosome build right? Yea the game was much more fun back then. I have been saying that for months and months. Oh that was also before Aim Assist. AA is ***** ridiculous. This game has gone to st since the good old chrome days.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2033	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:19:00 - [34] - Quote Confirming KingBabar is only moderately good at Pubstomping Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1067	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:20:00 - [35] - Quote KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... It's a cowards game now. You'll notice boxes and corners of walls cramped with 4-6 blueberrys all afraid to peak out. You'll find one slayer, then a group of blueberry's following him like a pack of vultures... Not squaded just "he looks like he knows whats going on" No Open ground Fighting.. And if there is 3-4 AA's will lock on and end the fun quick... No more 1-3 month old players rushing a group with confidence.. No Everyone investing on the best suit and weapons they can... Because they feel their "Skill" gives them a competitive chance. No More fun.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 304	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:22:00 - [36] - Quote After watching that video again, this game really is pants compared to what it once was.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1067	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:29:00 - [37] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: After watching that video again, this game really is pants compared to what it once was. Video's where amazing to watch back then... I remember finally getting time to sit down for some entertainment and going straight to youtube to look for the latest crazy DUST kill montages to get pumped up before logging on. They are so boring now... and hard to even make entertaining... there is no showcase of player skill really anymore.. Just gear and skill points its kinda sad...(PLC, Nova Knifes Highlight exceptions)
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:30:00 - [38] - Quote i've been seeing a lot of domination matches lately where one side all quits the game within the first 90 seconds leaving the game, 1-2 guys stay to fight 12 and of course they are redlined and the top score is like 3/0. theres no way they can expand the map when we're already hunting for the 2 reds that stayed, which has happened in about 40% of the matches i play. i've been on both ends so much is wrong and it's already been detailed 100s of times why this happens. i remember tanks being this powerful but they were not this numerous. kinda sux how i can have a railtank by default and not have to spend any SP or thought on fitting it. i can go to MLT vehicles, and have me a redline railtank that easy. do away with MLT rail turret, if you wanna rail tank you have to commit. they went from free a LAV that could be easily OP'ed so new players "could have fun" to a virtually isk free, SP free redline railtank so "new players can have fun" in chrome a mass driver could vs a heavy now with heavy borderline FOTM and soon to be even more so, there's no point in fighting a wave of FOTM heavies with a mass driver, but chasing FOTM builds is not appealing to me and i refuse to respec out of MD, but I'm not stupid enough to waste suits about it so that leaves me as an opportunist when in chrome i was assault modded for speed but they removed much of that. so now i'm left with a somewhat squishy LAV and a UP mass driver, both of those were once FOTM after the fact i had already suffered with them in lesser forms, now they're nerfed again and back to being seen as a noob choice- the mass driver's DPS and the LAV when i should, by current standards set by the FOTMs, be using a HAV and rail rifle instead of LAV/MD. sorry i got off topic but yea the intensity to this game is long gone u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1717	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:32:00 - [39] - Quote I miss that map in ambush, it's now far too large, to have the kind of battles we used to have their. also speed tanking is gone and the ttk is about 1 second, this forced the game into long range battles of peakabo rather then the battle dances we used to have. I personally adapted my style into RE combat, peakabo is not my thing.
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES 133	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:33:00 - [40] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Overusing cheap stuff like core locus nades? Really? Really? FU Orenji. I just spent 6 months playing witthout a nanohive FFS. And With todays TTK tossing that nade may just aswell be a Death sentence cause I normally Cook for 2-3 Seconds before tosisng, ample time to kill me With a militia AR or whatever. I don't in any way or form overuse Core locus nades, there are strings of several Battles where I don't toss a single one. Now that hitdetection is (over)fixed my gun is far more effective most of the time. "Try so hard against squadless NPC corp scrubs"? Again Really? I try to win every single Battle, every single engagement no matter what. (Well I do the occational trolling.) Every single good FPS player I've ever encountered has this attitude. I'm so sick of People telling me/us to tone Our game Down because we have to take into consideration the poor feelings of the lesser skilled and newer players. This is a jobb for CCP and everyones else, not me. It says a lot about the mentality of the Dust community when "trying hard" = doing what you can to win, loosing isk as a part of carrying the rest of team, using insanely expensive Equipment, and giving Your all in every fight is considered as a negative. I don't glitch, cheat, use modded Controllers, camp, snipe, tankspam, DS spam, camp on high positions or automatically uses the latest FOTM. I'm normally the dude sacrificing several suits to flush a camped enemy out of an easily defendable position. I'm a player that promotes fast paced "in Your face" gameplay, you know, FUN IMO. I'm not part of the crowd that brings the game Down to a longe range camp/snooze fest. Hell I don't even use dirty tactics like LAV/HMG combo, or Fatty/RR or whatever People do to get the current biggest crutch. Yes I do use a suit that has about 10-20% more EHP and more fancy Equipment than most, but then again, I very often go up against larger Groups of players. So going solo in proto vs lets say a Squad in Advanced gear and suddenly its Natural for me and indeed anyone that uses proto that taking that entire Squad Down alone is just damned easy, you know, cause I use proto.. Yeah I'm the big bad wolf ruining everyone's game. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good. Have my babys pls... But no really he has a solid point I tend to do the same when I can I just don't have infinity dollars like this guy just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw

Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1007	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:34:00 - [41] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Btw Orenji Jiji I remember you being in the protostomp ranks way back so why the rant? I don't protlstomp just because I don't have skill to do that and I would really like to see people who boast (not you) that they go militia and kill protos all day long in action. I think the reality would be much more grim. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1767	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:55:00 - [42] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Confirming KingBabar is only moderately good at Pubstomping This! Many would take this as some sort of offense but Corruption is spot on here. I'm not an especially good player, this is a fact. Sometimes slow, and with very variable performance topped with stupid bumrushes and exaggerated aggression. Yes I have my moments and I've had some pretty solid CBs, but on average no. I am viable on a high level CB team only as a support logi (which I play in all CBs), at least I have some gungame. Its just that the general Dust playerbase is really really bad. KingBabar - King of scrubs.... - Anyways, at least no one can call me out on being a camper or perifferee hero, or someone that gives up easily. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2035	Posted - 2014.02.04 16:00:00 - [43] - Quote KingBabar wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Confirming KingBabar is only moderately good at Pubstomping This! Many would take this as some sort of offense but Corruption is spot on here. I'm not an especially good player, this is a fact. Sometimes slow, and with very variable performance topped with stupid bumrushes and exaggerated aggression. Yes I have my moments and I've had some pretty solid CBs, but on average no. I am viable on a high level CB team only as a support logi (which I play in all CBs), at least I have some gungame. Its just that the general Dust playerbase is really really bad. KingBabar - King of scrubs.... - Anyways, at least no one can call me out on being a camper or perifferee hero, or someone that gives up easily. KingBabar is a Logi that can slay, which =/= a SlayerLogi and that is why he valued on any PC -A team Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
SirManBoy Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 423	Posted - 2014.02.04 16:06:00 - [44] - Quote I agree, OP. Before cheap tanks, AV nerfs, and OP rail guns hit the scene, battles were consistently fun and intense, especially doms. Now you're lucky to be in 1 great battle every 10 matches.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1008	Posted - 2014.02.04 16:07:00 - [45] - Quote KingBabar wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Confirming KingBabar is only moderately good at Pubstomping This! Many would take this as some sort of offense but Corruption is spot on here. I'm not an especially good player, this is a fact. Sometimes slow, and with very variable performance topped with stupid bumrushes and exaggerated aggression. Yes I have my moments and I've had some pretty solid CBs, but on average no. I am viable on a high level CB team only as a support logi (which I play in all CBs), at least I have some gungame. Its just that the general Dust playerbase is really really bad. KingBabar - King of scrubs.... - Anyways, at least no one can call me out on being a camper or perifferee hero, or someone that gives up easily. Btw. There's not many of us who can say they've killed Kingbabr with a militia locus grenade. I can. U scrubs. (Definitely not riding the bandwagon here and MOST definitely something what?) No! Not drunk! So gonna have to agree witv RegnYum here. Moderate slayer only. ;) (Referring to those grenade videos) Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 635	Posted - 2014.02.04 16:25:00 - [46] - Quote if u want a challenge then get out of that tanked out proto suit and wear a mlt suit with mlt weaponry instead... it was basically next to impossible to kill a proto suit with a mlt ar back then. now its at least possible to do. really the main good thing about dust is it requires brains to do good. which is pretty much fact for mlt. its not so that way for proto. ive come across plenty of intense battles here in 1.7.. i recall the one match i had against the corp the third day.. killed over 12 of their tanks. in that domination. and the objective it self was just flipping back and forth from red and blue for nearly the entire battle. it was a brutal bloodbath. even for the tanks. and other vehicles.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1069	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:20:00 - [47] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: if u want a challenge then get out of that tanked out proto suit and wear a mlt suit with mlt weaponry instead... it was basically next to impossible to kill a proto suit with a mlt ar back then. now its at least possible to do. really the main good thing about dust is it requires brains to do good. which is pretty much fact for mlt. its not so that way for proto. ive come across plenty of intense battles here in 1.7.. i recall the one match i had against the corp the third day.. killed over 12 of their tanks. in that domination. and the objective it self was just flipping back and forth from red and blue for nearly the entire battle. it was a brutal bloodbath. even for the tanks. and other vehicles. back then battles didnt feel at all as intense as they feel now. all it took to win was a proto suit. now i see some actual tactics being involved in some matches. False. Anyone of the skilled players, A majority of these players then not even affiliated with top corporations in the Corp Battle scene. Could Make a newly made character and compete with even their "Proto" friends in pubs.. Because Player skill was the main factor in DUST 514 then. skills and equipment was an after thought. The word "Proto stomp" was only on the lips of the few as most people ran everything they could skill and afford and aspired to run more. The only real intense DUST that has happened since 1.4 is the recently added new tank game... And for most tankers that where tankers for ever... It isn't even the case, they are god mode without even having to manage their modules. Not like before having a full Module wheel and actually being at risk if they made a mistake or went for to much reward .
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 366	Posted - 2014.02.04 18:24:00 - [48] - Quote 8213 wrote: I don't think I like the game any better now, than I did then. But the game plays a lot better now than then. Anyone who says Chrome was the best build is probably psychotic and a tad dumb 07 psycho, reporting for duty. Who wants some?
Orenji Jiji 352	Posted - 2014.02.04 19:34:00 - [49] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Btw Orenji Jiji I remember you being in the protostomp ranks way back so why the rant? Sorry, you must have me mistaken with somebody. I've been a dropship pilot and true logi since closed beta, my KDR was never >2.11, because I dislike shooting people and quite honestly my aim is **. Since I took a break few months back I chilled even more and I'm now running 20k ISK scouts on both my toons, unless somebody needs a medic (here) or HMG (noobish alt). I'm actually having fun running STD/ADV gear. @Babar, I've squadded with you something like two weeks ago and you called yourself something along the "king of tryhards" line. Nice way of showing your true colors with that aggression loaded post. And good luck with this tryhard, elitist attitude that you show both in your post and in your signature. You're a FOTM protosquad stomper, who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome. Because you're awesome. Because you try so hard to win. I will not respond with profanities to your lack of manners, because I don't care about you and the corps you will run to the ground next. I'm here to have fun. Your gungame is good, your (online) personality is **. Have a good day, or whatever. SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 117	Posted - 2014.02.04 20:17:00 - [50] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Overusing cheap stuff like core locus nades? Really? Really? FU Orenji. I just spent 6 months playing witthout a nanohive FFS. And With todays TTK tossing that nade may just aswell be a Death sentence cause I normally Cook for 2-3 Seconds before tosisng, ample time to kill me With a militia AR or whatever. I don't in any way or form overuse Core locus nades, there are strings of several Battles where I don't toss a single one. Now that hitdetection is (over)fixed my gun is far more effective most of the time. "Try so hard against squadless NPC corp scrubs"? Again Really? I try to win every single Battle, every single engagement no matter what. (Well I do the occational trolling.) Every single good FPS player I've ever encountered has this attitude. I'm so sick of People telling me/us to tone Our game Down because we have to take into consideration the poor feelings of the lesser skilled and newer players. This is a jobb for CCP and everyones else, not me. It says a lot about the mentality of the Dust community when "trying hard" = doing what you can to win, loosing isk as a part of carrying the rest of team, using insanely expensive Equipment, and giving Your all in every fight is considered as a negative. I don't glitch, cheat, use modded Controllers, camp, snipe, tankspam, DS spam, camp on high positions or automatically uses the latest FOTM. I'm normally the dude sacrificing several suits to flush a camped enemy out of an easily defendable position. I'm a player that promotes fast paced "in Your face" gameplay, you know, FUN IMO. I'm not part of the crowd that brings the game Down to a longe range camp/snooze fest. Hell I don't even use dirty tactics like LAV/HMG combo, or Fatty/RR or whatever People do to get the current biggest crutch. Yes I do use a suit that has about 10-20% more EHP and more fancy Equipment than most, but then again, I very often go up against larger Groups of players. So going solo in proto vs lets say a Squad in Advanced gear and suddenly its Natural for me and indeed anyone that uses proto that taking that entire Squad Down alone is just damned easy, you know, cause I use proto.. Yeah I'm the big bad wolf ruining everyone's game. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good. If you can kill a whole squad solo then TTK is indeed broken?! Not your fault though that's CCP's fault, you're right. If a squad of six guys in adv gear can't kill you in close quarters though? Is that you beasting, or the suit? Not saying your not beasting, but again CCP needs to fix this?! What's the point of playing at all in this case? If he wears proto he's gonna win case closed? If we all wear proto the one with more sp will win?! No tactics, no strategy, just pre-decided? Do you see what i'm getting at? This is what they're trying to tell you bro. You're not wrong, but until CCP fixes this flaw let's be proactive and run advanced. After all you can take on six solo right? With stick skills alone you should be able to beast running frontline right? No proto required? I mean you kill SQUADS! Not trying to sound patronizing, but bro what you just said confirms our argument?! Why are guys able to go one man army at all in a team based game? The militia/proto gap that's how! Proto gear in of itself is a crutch now?! It's the reason OP weapons are prevelent. The reason for grenade spam, RE spam, and .... well tank spam is a tactic for the weak not the desperate?! Can't explain the actions of cowards, sorry?! But the others are due to guys just like you desperately trying to win just like you! This game has become a race to proto?! That's all?! If you can kill a squad solo truly, then maybe those are the six new players the community just lost? What's more fun? Small communities or large ones? I'm not saying go get killed to make them feel better, but six on one and the one wins? Really? "Anybody order chaos?"

Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1617	Posted - 2014.02.04 20:38:00 - [51] - Quote I really miss this version of Dust. All weapons were more or less viable and balanced in such a way that if something threatening was approaching you'd have time to actually say something to your squad and work together to flank / destroy it. Now the best you can do is yell out what just killed you from where. Battle lines used to form around strategic locations, now people die so fast that it almost never happens. I think it was up until uprising 1.4 that it was rare to get matches that were so one-sided that there was no actual fight involved.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4363	Posted - 2014.02.04 20:42:00 - [52] - Quote Scout misses speed tank....... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Piercing Serenity Fatal Absolution Public Disorder. 513	Posted - 2014.02.04 21:01:00 - [53] - Quote That looked fun I personally chalk up the difference between that game and now to damage mods. If you look at Babar's shields, they're at 480. I think the max shields on a proto caldari assault was something like 508 back then, so he was close to max shields - probably had an advanced extender on. The point is that back when shield tanking was the FOTM, weapon damages made more sense. ARs were still broken (easily out DPSing other weapons), but at least there was some time between getting hit and death. Now a days a squad will roll through with RRs or ScR and put out some ridiculous amount of damage in one shot. Retreating isn't an option, flanking is stupidly hard, and the game has really devolved into who can put out the most damage fastest. And that's no fun DUST 514 BETA VET 16.2M Lifetime SP SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1827	Posted - 2014.02.04 21:35:00 - [54] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: That looked fun I personally chalk up the difference between that game and now to damage mods. If you look at Babar's shields, they're at 480. I think the max shields on a proto caldari assault was something like 508 back then, so he was close to max shields - probably had an advanced extender on. The point is that back when shield tanking was the FOTM, weapon damages made more sense. ARs were still broken (easily out DPSing other weapons), but at least there was some time between getting hit and death. Now a days a squad will roll through with RRs or ScR and put out some ridiculous amount of damage in one shot. Retreating isn't an option, flanking is stupidly hard, and the game has really devolved into who can put out the most damage fastest. And that's no fun While that's true look at the HD, compared to now it was terrible. Back then scouts were viable in 1v1. Back then the TTK was too long, as shown in the video you could hide behind a head high rock forthe match and slaughter. As I have seen the elite do, even back in uprising 1.0 times, the game consisted of chop strafing and magically dodging bullets. You could waste entire magazines on a guy who wobbled like he was stood on electric plate, all the while him and his 'l33t' skills would muller your entire squad. Uprising in total has been better, it looks better, it is more fun, the only real problems are A) Lack of matchmaking B) Lack of Enthusiasm by Protostompers to just Stomp (without the proto) Im not saying its not fair, after all they earned the skill points to field it. But those who have so much ISK they can run it 24/7, step up to the plate amd show the rest of us, show us you can still stomp in a frontline. It'll give you that intensity back, it gives noobs a feeling that they can achieve better, it makes the game more fun for everyone. Even if you only do it one dayna week, or only after you cap out, just do it. For the good of the game, the players and your own enjoymemt. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1618	Posted - 2014.02.04 22:54:00 - [55] - Quote Having time to run behind a rock to hide doesn't mean TTK was too long. It was easy to counter with very simple teamwork. You go right, your friend goes left. The ability to think and plan ahead actually mattered. The lone wolf died alone. That's how it should be. The magically dodging thing wasn't an issue with strafing, it was an issue with the server not recognizing hits correctly. There isn't a damage mod issue really either. They may need to be toned down, but we had them back then too. The real issue is that weapon damage values were balanced around the bad hit detection and then when that was fixed, the weapon damage values were never adjusted to compensate. It meant that applied damage went up 200% or more. A 10% damage mod is a drop in the bucket by comparison.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1775	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:11:00 - [56] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Btw Orenji Jiji I remember you being in the protostomp ranks way back so why the rant? Sorry, you must have me mistaken with somebody. I've been a dropship pilot and true logi since closed beta, my KDR was never >2.11, because I dislike shooting people and quite honestly my aim is **. Since I took a break few months back I chilled even more and I'm now running 20k ISK scouts on both my toons, unless somebody needs a medic (here) or HMG (noobish alt). I'm actually having fun running STD/ADV gear. @Babar, I've squadded with you something like two weeks ago and you called yourself something along the "king of tryhards" line. Nice way of showing your true colors with that aggression loaded post. And good luck with this tryhard, elitist attitude that you show both in your post and in your signature. You're a FOTM protosquad stomper, who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome. Because you're awesome. Because you try so hard to win. I will not respond with profanities to your lack of manners, because I don't care about you and the corps you will run to the ground next. I'm here to have fun. Your gungame is good, your (online) personality is **. Have a good day, or whatever. "King of Tryhards" - LOL BAD English comprehension? It was reffering to some of the tryhards in my corp who, well, their logi suits aren't exactly filled With team supporting Equipment to put it that way. It reffered to me being the only dude of that particular Squad who didn't have a tanked out Galente logi suit or something along that line. It might also come from the discussion of the Applications we had at the time, we denied them all cause simply put they weren't good enough. I don't exactly consider myself to be "king of tryhards" in the litteral meaning of the Word, I thought thay would be obvious?... And exactly what makes me a FOTM user? Again you bring this generalized assumption, just like what you said about my nade usage. Un-informed and IMO thats indeed a "lack of manners " as you put it. Coming on the forums and bad-mouthing me With what is a sort of generalized anti-protostomper argument thats frankly old News thats been repeated so many times in various forms on these forums. Wouldn't you be a little aggrivated if someone had to make a thread about old/New TTK and map sizes turn into yet another scenario where all the peasant mob come to kick out the grocer and burn the house Down? Stop making assumtions and post it has a truth, you dunno what you're talking about. "the corps you will run to the ground Next" Again really? With this you imply that I've been running other corps into the ground before, and that can only be SI. Are you really so deluded that you think its the tryhard atttude of the good players, which all left about 3-4 months ago, that made SI implode? Am I personally to blame for SI imploding? It sure sounds like thats Your opinion the way you Write it. IMO it was the forgiving nature of Sha, bringing in 50 players that were sub par that ruined SI. When SI had about 70-80 players we were a force to be reckoned With, 3 months later we were approaching 150 players and you had a core Group that had to carry the rest and got tired of it and ultimately left. And not least the many very good players like Oha that had more gungame than most but couldn't be bothered to play PC and we had to exchange many good players with scrubs. So I Guess my elitist attitude makes me extremely unpopular, thats why 80% of the players With any worthwhile skill in SI that still Plays Dust is currently in The Rainbow Effect? "who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome" Whaaat? Dunno how its possibru to relate the two. Terrible matchmaking is about to ruin Dust, its perhaps the most important issue this game has along With District locking in PC. That's why I've been QQing on these forums lately, its so very boring to be out into a team With almost 16 organised players vs 16 moreor less clueless players. Its why I've started to mostly run in 2 or 3 man Groups, to try and trick Scotty to put us into the team that is about to get stomped. By all means be my guest, go have Your fun, don't bother too much about winning the games or indeed improve Your performance, its fun to merely play. A competitive nature and a desire to win is just for morons like me that actually care about the outcome of every Battle fought, its indeed a bad quality FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 299	Posted - 2014.02.05 10:41:00 - [57] - Quote I miss the old manus peak. I had a lot of fun jumping around those rocks. The new manus peak is gimped as hell
Corbina Ninja Maphia Clan Corporation 585	Posted - 2014.02.05 11:08:00 - [58] - Quote remove camper's paradise (rooftop) and tank spam the game would be much more fun and intense > *Test Signature Please Ignore*
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1776	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:10:00 - [59] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: KingBabar wrote: [quote=Orenji Jiji][quote=KingBabar]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 If you can kill a whole squad solo then TTK is indeed broken?! Not your fault though that's CCP's fault, you're right. If a squad of six guys in adv gear can't kill you in close quarters though? Is that you beasting, or the suit? Not saying your not beasting, but again CCP needs to fix this?! What's the point of playing at all in this case? If he wears proto he's gonna win case closed? If we all wear proto the one with more sp will win?! No tactics, no strategy, just pre-decided? Do you see what i'm getting at? This is what they're trying to tell you bro. You're not wrong, but until CCP fixes this flaw let's be proactive and run advanced. After all you can take on six solo right? With stick skills alone you should be able to beast running frontline right? No proto required? I mean you kill SQUADS! Not trying to sound patronizing, but bro what you just said confirms our argument?! Why are guys able to go one man army at all in a team based game? The militia/proto gap that's how! Proto gear in of itself is a crutch now?! It's the reason OP weapons are prevelent. The reason for grenade spam, RE spam, and .... well tank spam is a tactic for the weak not the desperate?! Can't explain the actions of cowards, sorry?! But the others are due to guys just like you desperately trying to win just like you! This game has become a race to proto?! That's all?! If you can kill a squad solo truly, then maybe those are the six new players the community just lost? What's more fun? Small communities or large ones? I'm not saying go get killed to make them feel better, but six on one and the one wins? Really? Well first off, its not like I can og into every single me vs a bunch of dudes Battle and come out victorious every time. But yes, in many cases they simply drop like flies. And I'm merely trying to state the facts here, its not an attempt to brag, I play With guys that outkills me on a regular basis. And be assured, With a New patch coming I'll most definateley use more Advanced gear in pubs due to a suit respec, well if we get one that is. As it is now, I really hate the thought of dying after lets say taking out 3 of 4 dudes coming at me when I use enhanced knowing that proto would perhaps be the difference I needed to stay alive and then keep slaying. As it is for me now my protosuit actually has less HP than my enhanced but the protosuit is dampened which indeed is a huge benefit when playing more or less alone vs Groups. So it ends up With: My ehnhanced suit is better in a straight up 1 vs 1 fight but not as good as my proto's overall perormance. And that With a cost increase of about 150 K isk. Besides, I can't fit proto uplinks or an allotek hive etc on my enhanced suit without seriously gimping it. In a sence, if you take 1 dude in proto gear and 3 dudes in militia gear the 3 dudes should have the definite advantage. Yes my gun puts out more dammage but not more than the sum of 3 rifles, same goes for HP and not least opportunity to sandwich me, flank etc. And this Whole "big gap" discussion is just lame IMO. Am I as a medium frame user to complain about heavies using RR like so many does on these forums. "He have the same gun as me but twice my hitpoints waaa waaa". No I don't. You know this dude has more HP and you should act accordingly. When you're a bunch of low Level players grouped up you need to commincate and play thight and go 2 vs 1 on that protosuit and so on. And I don't enerally buy the Whole "proto is op" thing so many claims. I die , a lot, just look at my poor kdr. Hearing some posts here and you should think I was the biggest scrub in the entire playerbase. "Cause playing is just too easy for me, when I use proto I never get below a 10 KDR" this one dude claimed. My experience is that a militia AR can kill me before I even can turn around and see my enemy, so whats the nig f@cking deal? I'd much rather face 3 dudes in protogear than 6 dudes in enhanced gear assuming the player skill Level is the same. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.


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