DUST Search - Remember the intensity of old?

Orenji Jiji wrote:

Repe Susi wrote:

Orenji Jiji wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4

It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end.

Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days....

Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?...

Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game.

Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you.

Good game, KingBabar.

Btw Orenji Jiji I remember you being in the protostomp ranks way back so why the rant?

Sorry, you must have me mistaken with somebody. I've been a dropship pilot and true logi since closed beta, my KDR was never >2.11, because I dislike shooting people and quite honestly my aim is ****. Since I took a break few months back I chilled even more and I'm now running 20k ISK scouts on both my toons, unless somebody needs a medic (here) or HMG (noobish alt). I'm actually having fun running STD/ADV gear.

@Babar, I've squadded with you something like two weeks ago and you called yourself something along the "king of tryhards" line. Nice way of showing your true colors with that aggression loaded post. And good luck with this tryhard, elitist attitude that you show both in your post and in your signature. You're a FOTM protosquad stomper, who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome. Because you're awesome. Because you try so hard to win. I will not respond with profanities to your lack of manners, because I don't care about you and the corps you will run to the ground next. I'm here to have fun. Your gungame is good, your (online) personality is ****. Have a good day, or whatever.

FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.


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KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1758	Posted - 2014.02.04 08:41:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1759	Posted - 2014.02.04 09:26:00 - [2] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Somehow I don't think your enemies enjoyed it one bit. Even back then proto stomping was prelevant. The only thing I would say is the TTK was better back then. Battles were more drawnout, even matches could hould out for as long as 45mins, 1v1 engagements seemeed to take a lifeime. You Call that a proto stomp???? Thats nothing at all. That was a fair fight for all involved and we were only 3 players after all. Besides, the SI dudes on the other team didn't have such a bad game. No a proper stomp involves 50-80 kills on one side and 10 Deaths or less on the other side. So far I've played 3 80 clone ambushes without my team losing a single clone, we even came very Close in a Skirmish once, 2 Deaths I think. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1762	Posted - 2014.02.04 11:45:00 - [3] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Overusing cheap stuff like core locus nades? Really? Really? FU Orenji. I just spent 6 months playing witthout a nanohive FFS. And With todays TTK tossing that nade may just aswell be a Death sentence cause I normally Cook for 2-3 Seconds before tosisng, ample time to kill me With a militia AR or whatever. I don't in any way or form overuse Core locus nades, there are strings of several Battles where I don't toss a single one. Now that hitdetection is (over)fixed my gun is far more effective most of the time. "Try so hard against squadless NPC corp scrubs"? Again Really? I try to win every single Battle, every single engagement no matter what. (Well I do the occational trolling.) Every single good FPS player I've ever encountered has this attitude. I'm so sick of People telling me/us to tone Our game Down because we have to take into consideration the poor feelings of the lesser skilled and newer players. This is a jobb for CCP and everyones else, not me. It says a lot about the mentality of the Dust community when "trying hard" = doing what you can to win, loosing isk as a part of carrying the rest of team, using insanely expensive Equipment, and giving Your all in every fight is considered as a negative. I don't glitch, cheat, use modded Controllers, camp, snipe, tankspam, DS spam, camp on high positions or automatically uses the latest FOTM. I'm normally the dude sacrificing several suits to flush a camped enemy out of an easily defendable position. I'm a player that promotes fast paced "in Your face" gameplay, you know, FUN IMO. I'm not part of the crowd that brings the game Down to a longe range camp/snooze fest. Hell I don't even use dirty tactics like LAV/HMG combo, or Fatty/RR or whatever People do to get the current biggest crutch. Yes I do use a suit that has about 10-20% more EHP and more fancy Equipment than most, but then again, I very often go up against larger Groups of players. So going solo in proto vs lets say a Squad in Advanced gear and suddenly its Natural for me and indeed anyone that uses proto that taking that entire Squad Down alone is just damned easy, you know, cause I use proto.. Yeah I'm the big bad wolf ruining everyone's game. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:03:00 - [4] - Quote Here I try to make a point about how the smaller maps used to make the game more intense and fun. You spawn in at the beginning, 2 Seconds later you spot Your first reddot and then there's hectic activety until the game finished. And all you crybabies can do is come and point out that I'm using a protosuit..... @English Snake - Yes ambush is definately on average the most intense of the pub game modes. Skirmish and dom are unfortunately mostly filled up With lots of players that does all they can to avoid a fight. There is much more camping on high ground, camping in the redline etc. And LOL Dom, me and Tosh played 6-7 games yesterday, just us 2 in Squad and 60-70% of those Battles the enemy team barely got within 100 M of the objective, there were plenty of snipers, rail redline tanks and dudes in turrets behind the redline. I don't think fighting for 2 minutes and then spending 10+ minutes to wait for the game to end as any form of intense, which is most of the games these days. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:06:00 - [5] - Quote Ironyimation Inception wrote: Hurr durr this game is competitive so I use a proto caldari assault with a proto AR 24/7 I'm good. Good job guy, everyone can use proto gear, not even slightly hard. You're very welcome to join Our "Rainbow Office" chat and Group up With me, lets see how easy it is and how much you can keep up With me, or indeed outperform me. Hell I'll even doubble Your isk loss. So tired of hearing "if I could be bothered to us proto it would be so easy to og 20-2 in any game, but I just can't be bothered so I'll stay n my enhanced suit and og 10-4, cause thats so much more impressive". Protosuits give a slight edge over enhanced yes, but come on, its not that big. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1766	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:09:00 - [6] - Quote Ironyimation Inception wrote: dent 308 wrote: I continue to be baffled by this bizarre hatred of proto gear. Use whatever you can, the difference in gear is negligible compared to bad decision making. I hope your joking, I use militia gear most of the time and I finish above average. I use full proto and my K/D ratio never dips below 10. So much respect for using these instant killing weapons. There we go, wanna Group up With me and show it? I'll give you 100 M isk if you can get as many kills as I can during lets say 10 games and still have a 10 KDR. Thats a very good offer indeed. Boosting the KDR by playing it safe is very easy indeed. Keeping a high KDR while still being very aggressive and top the killboard in most games is not that easy. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1767	Posted - 2014.02.04 15:55:00 - [7] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Confirming KingBabar is only moderately good at Pubstomping This! Many would take this as some sort of offense but Corruption is spot on here. I'm not an especially good player, this is a fact. Sometimes slow, and with very variable performance topped with stupid bumrushes and exaggerated aggression. Yes I have my moments and I've had some pretty solid CBs, but on average no. I am viable on a high level CB team only as a support logi (which I play in all CBs), at least I have some gungame. Its just that the general Dust playerbase is really really bad. KingBabar - King of scrubs.... - Anyways, at least no one can call me out on being a camper or perifferee hero, or someone that gives up easily. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1775	Posted - 2014.02.05 07:11:00 - [8] - Quote Orenji Jiji wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Orenji Jiji wrote: KingBabar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 It just occurred to me how much more intense and fun Dust used to be. In this game I get right into the action merely Seconds after spawning in, and it lasts all the way to the very end. Todays Battles usually consist of me looking for the enemies, often way more than half the batlle. Well not that I play much ambush these days.... Making the maps much bigger without increasing player Count don't seem so wise now does it?... Maybe stop running full proto? Or overusing cheap stuff like core nades? Not everybody sits on 40mil SP and can afford spamming full proto ad infinitum. You've got gungame but you try so hard agains squadless NPC corp scrubs... and then you say the game is boring? Give some thought to the <10M SP scrubs afraid of leaving their MCC, after reaching 0/5 in two minutes of a game. Oh no, wait. You still want to stomp, your problem is that IT'S NOW POSSIBLE TO HIDE FROM YOU. OH. Poor you. Good game, KingBabar. Btw Orenji Jiji I remember you being in the protostomp ranks way back so why the rant? Sorry, you must have me mistaken with somebody. I've been a dropship pilot and true logi since closed beta, my KDR was never >2.11, because I dislike shooting people and quite honestly my aim is **. Since I took a break few months back I chilled even more and I'm now running 20k ISK scouts on both my toons, unless somebody needs a medic (here) or HMG (noobish alt). I'm actually having fun running STD/ADV gear. @Babar, I've squadded with you something like two weeks ago and you called yourself something along the "king of tryhards" line. Nice way of showing your true colors with that aggression loaded post. And good luck with this tryhard, elitist attitude that you show both in your post and in your signature. You're a FOTM protosquad stomper, who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome. Because you're awesome. Because you try so hard to win. I will not respond with profanities to your lack of manners, because I don't care about you and the corps you will run to the ground next. I'm here to have fun. Your gungame is good, your (online) personality is **. Have a good day, or whatever. "King of Tryhards" - LOL BAD English comprehension? It was reffering to some of the tryhards in my corp who, well, their logi suits aren't exactly filled With team supporting Equipment to put it that way. It reffered to me being the only dude of that particular Squad who didn't have a tanked out Galente logi suit or something along that line. It might also come from the discussion of the Applications we had at the time, we denied them all cause simply put they weren't good enough. I don't exactly consider myself to be "king of tryhards" in the litteral meaning of the Word, I thought thay would be obvious?... And exactly what makes me a FOTM user? Again you bring this generalized assumption, just like what you said about my nade usage. Un-informed and IMO thats indeed a "lack of manners " as you put it. Coming on the forums and bad-mouthing me With what is a sort of generalized anti-protostomper argument thats frankly old News thats been repeated so many times in various forms on these forums. Wouldn't you be a little aggrivated if someone had to make a thread about old/New TTK and map sizes turn into yet another scenario where all the peasant mob come to kick out the grocer and burn the house Down? Stop making assumtions and post it has a truth, you dunno what you're talking about. "the corps you will run to the ground Next" Again really? With this you imply that I've been running other corps into the ground before, and that can only be SI. Are you really so deluded that you think its the tryhard atttude of the good players, which all left about 3-4 months ago, that made SI implode? Am I personally to blame for SI imploding? It sure sounds like thats Your opinion the way you Write it. IMO it was the forgiving nature of Sha, bringing in 50 players that were sub par that ruined SI. When SI had about 70-80 players we were a force to be reckoned With, 3 months later we were approaching 150 players and you had a core Group that had to carry the rest and got tired of it and ultimately left. And not least the many very good players like Oha that had more gungame than most but couldn't be bothered to play PC and we had to exchange many good players with scrubs. So I Guess my elitist attitude makes me extremely unpopular, thats why 80% of the players With any worthwhile skill in SI that still Plays Dust is currently in The Rainbow Effect? "who's trying to convince us that being stomped by you makes Dust awesome" Whaaat? Dunno how its possibru to relate the two. Terrible matchmaking is about to ruin Dust, its perhaps the most important issue this game has along With District locking in PC. That's why I've been QQing on these forums lately, its so very boring to be out into a team With almost 16 organised players vs 16 moreor less clueless players. Its why I've started to mostly run in 2 or 3 man Groups, to try and trick Scotty to put us into the team that is about to get stomped. By all means be my guest, go have Your fun, don't bother too much about winning the games or indeed improve Your performance, its fun to merely play. A competitive nature and a desire to win is just for morons like me that actually care about the outcome of every Battle fought, its indeed a bad quality FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1776	Posted - 2014.02.05 12:10:00 - [9] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: KingBabar wrote: [quote=Orenji Jiji][quote=KingBabar]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfTUCpG6d4 If you can kill a whole squad solo then TTK is indeed broken?! Not your fault though that's CCP's fault, you're right. If a squad of six guys in adv gear can't kill you in close quarters though? Is that you beasting, or the suit? Not saying your not beasting, but again CCP needs to fix this?! What's the point of playing at all in this case? If he wears proto he's gonna win case closed? If we all wear proto the one with more sp will win?! No tactics, no strategy, just pre-decided? Do you see what i'm getting at? This is what they're trying to tell you bro. You're not wrong, but until CCP fixes this flaw let's be proactive and run advanced. After all you can take on six solo right? With stick skills alone you should be able to beast running frontline right? No proto required? I mean you kill SQUADS! Not trying to sound patronizing, but bro what you just said confirms our argument?! Why are guys able to go one man army at all in a team based game? The militia/proto gap that's how! Proto gear in of itself is a crutch now?! It's the reason OP weapons are prevelent. The reason for grenade spam, RE spam, and .... well tank spam is a tactic for the weak not the desperate?! Can't explain the actions of cowards, sorry?! But the others are due to guys just like you desperately trying to win just like you! This game has become a race to proto?! That's all?! If you can kill a squad solo truly, then maybe those are the six new players the community just lost? What's more fun? Small communities or large ones? I'm not saying go get killed to make them feel better, but six on one and the one wins? Really? Well first off, its not like I can og into every single me vs a bunch of dudes Battle and come out victorious every time. But yes, in many cases they simply drop like flies. And I'm merely trying to state the facts here, its not an attempt to brag, I play With guys that outkills me on a regular basis. And be assured, With a New patch coming I'll most definateley use more Advanced gear in pubs due to a suit respec, well if we get one that is. As it is now, I really hate the thought of dying after lets say taking out 3 of 4 dudes coming at me when I use enhanced knowing that proto would perhaps be the difference I needed to stay alive and then keep slaying. As it is for me now my protosuit actually has less HP than my enhanced but the protosuit is dampened which indeed is a huge benefit when playing more or less alone vs Groups. So it ends up With: My ehnhanced suit is better in a straight up 1 vs 1 fight but not as good as my proto's overall perormance. And that With a cost increase of about 150 K isk. Besides, I can't fit proto uplinks or an allotek hive etc on my enhanced suit without seriously gimping it. In a sence, if you take 1 dude in proto gear and 3 dudes in militia gear the 3 dudes should have the definite advantage. Yes my gun puts out more dammage but not more than the sum of 3 rifles, same goes for HP and not least opportunity to sandwich me, flank etc. And this Whole "big gap" discussion is just lame IMO. Am I as a medium frame user to complain about heavies using RR like so many does on these forums. "He have the same gun as me but twice my hitpoints waaa waaa". No I don't. You know this dude has more HP and you should act accordingly. When you're a bunch of low Level players grouped up you need to commincate and play thight and go 2 vs 1 on that protosuit and so on. And I don't enerally buy the Whole "proto is op" thing so many claims. I die , a lot, just look at my poor kdr. Hearing some posts here and you should think I was the biggest scrub in the entire playerbase. "Cause playing is just too easy for me, when I use proto I never get below a 10 KDR" this one dude claimed. My experience is that a militia AR can kill me before I even can turn around and see my enemy, so whats the nig f@cking deal? I'd much rather face 3 dudes in protogear than 6 dudes in enhanced gear assuming the player skill Level is the same. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.