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Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:30:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:TheD1CK wrote:TheD1CK wrote:I don't think HAV are OP It's the fact that AV becomes useless V 5-7 HAV's Then there is no hope  Are the people reading this so thick that I have to quote myself HAV are perfect... take away stacked hardeners and Boom! fixed The problem is AV CANNOT deal with 5+ HAV's on the battlefield I had notifications on this BS thread for ages, and everyone here just wants to talk crap about who kills who, not actual game balance STFU and find solutions rather than comparing d1cks So why should tankers be forced to fit their hulls the way someone else wants?
Because a game without balance is a dying game.
A kill with NO SKILL is not a kill.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:50:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:TheD1CK wrote:TheD1CK wrote:I don't think HAV are OP It's the fact that AV becomes useless V 5-7 HAV's Then there is no hope Are the people reading this so thick that I have to quote myself HAV are perfect... take away stacked hardeners and Boom! fixed The problem is AV CANNOT deal with 5+ HAV's on the battlefield I had notifications on this BS thread for ages, and everyone here just wants to talk crap about who kills who, not actual game balance STFU and find solutions rather than comparing d1cks So why should tankers be forced to fit their hulls the way someone else wants? Because a game without balance is a dying game. A kill with NO SKILL is not a kill.
Then on mw2 i go 20/0
UAV fegs made me stop playing
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:50:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol at the the butthurt
I thought you would be happy infantry that a tank died
They obv did something that you cant seem to do lol Oh, the Trolls gf is here
What, you're jealous that Taka and I work very well together?
Not my fault 3 different corps had to fight Red Star...
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:51:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:TheD1CK wrote:TheD1CK wrote:I don't think HAV are OP It's the fact that AV becomes useless V 5-7 HAV's Then there is no hope Are the people reading this so thick that I have to quote myself HAV are perfect... take away stacked hardeners and Boom! fixed The problem is AV CANNOT deal with 5+ HAV's on the battlefield I had notifications on this BS thread for ages, and everyone here just wants to talk crap about who kills who, not actual game balance STFU and find solutions rather than comparing d1cks So why should tankers be forced to fit their hulls the way someone else wants? Because a game without balance is a dying game. A kill with NO SKILL is not a kill.
What balance do you want, an AR to be a legitimate AV weapon?
You can bugger off and go to Call of Duty, where you don't have to worry about vehicles.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3925
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:00:00 -
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I will now refer to noob players as Sparks. Specifically noob tankers.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1037
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:09:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:If scrubs like duna corp can do it, why can't everybody else?
Oh wait, you don't know what teamwork is.
Must be the First time you lost a tank, Post 1.7 
Had to come here and cry about it... Given that you hide behind the red line all day and try to pew pew with your Large turret... Lmfao... Must've been a Jihadi.... The community should send that guy some ISK for touching you in the wrong places lol |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.04 14:27:00 -
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Sounds like you're either lying or simply failed at tanking.
Even if there's three guys shooting at me they have a hard time taking me down. They might succeed if I get a little too cocky, but it takes some effort and they certainly don't just stomp all over me even though they're three guys using the direct counter to what I'm using.
But yeah, it's just the OP and Taka being stupid as always, nothing new about that really.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:25:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Sounds like you're either lying or simply failed at tanking.
Even if there's three guys shooting at me they have a hard time taking me down. They might succeed if I get a little too cocky, but it takes some effort and they certainly don't just stomp all over me even though they're three guys using the direct counter to what I'm using.
But yeah, it's just the OP and Taka being stupid as always, nothing new about that really.
I've been insta'd this build.
I pulled a 2hard 1dam particle cannon for AV purposes, and I was driving around the edges of the map when suddenly BOOM.
Turns out I got lol1shot by a Wiyrkomi Breach 
Which I have proceeded to do to multiple tanks. AssForge works better, but it's still a pain.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:33:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been insta'd this build. I pulled a 2hard 1dam particle cannon for AV purposes, and I was driving around the edges of the map when suddenly BOOM. Turns out I got lol1shot by a Wiyrkomi Breach Which I have proceeded to do to multiple tanks. AssForge works better, but it's still a pain. Also, @Tech, my primary infantry AV fit is about 50k, from memory. I don't like the Ishukone these days; takes up too much fitting for too little reward.
Yes, but getting hit in the rear by a Breach Forge could be considered failing at tanking (imo).
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:37:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been insta'd this build. I pulled a 2hard 1dam particle cannon for AV purposes, and I was driving around the edges of the map when suddenly BOOM. Turns out I got lol1shot by a Wiyrkomi Breach Which I have proceeded to do to multiple tanks. AssForge works better, but it's still a pain. Also, @Tech, my primary infantry AV fit is about 50k, from memory. I don't like the Ishukone these days; takes up too much fitting for too little reward. Yes, but getting hit in the rear by a Breach Forge could be considered failing at tanking (imo).
There are lucky shots, you know.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:39:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Sounds like you're either lying or simply failed at tanking.
Even if there's three guys shooting at me they have a hard time taking me down. They might succeed if I get a little too cocky, but it takes some effort and they certainly don't just stomp all over me even though they're three guys using the direct counter to what I'm using.
But yeah, it's just the OP and Taka being stupid as always, nothing new about that really.
Rendering is still a ***** sometimes, and as we all know, sometimes the hit markers don't work correctly.
It was an AV Madrugar, not the best for defense. I still killed them both though. They probably weren't too happy that I took them both with me.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 15:41:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:If scrubs like duna corp can do it, why can't everybody else?
Oh wait, you don't know what teamwork is. Must be the First time you lost a tank, Post 1.7 Had to come here and cry about it... Given that you hide behind the red line all day and try to pew pew with your Large turret... Lmfao... Must've been a Jihadi.... The community should send that guy some ISK for touching you in the wrong places lol
What I said was.............. crying?
Next thing, you're going to post on my tank glue thread, and tell me I'm purposely getting it stuck to things.
You can't even troll because you never understand what is said. You obviously were never good at reading comprehension.
And I said AV too, not a LAV.
Reading comprehension fail.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Sextus Hardcock
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.04 16:54:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol at the the butthurt
I thought you would be happy infantry that a tank died
They obv did something that you cant seem to do lol Oh, the Trolls gf is here What, you're jealous that Taka and I work very well together? Not my fault 3 different corps had to fight Red Star...
uuh... nope.
Teamwork on the field is a good thing, nobody is arguing that.
we're on a forum right now, and nobody can take you seriously. Perhaps you don't know why so I'll tell you. Your opinions are biased and you don't seem to have an interest in balancing out the game. You are just as butt hurt as all the infantards who run at your tank shooting ARs, and AV dolts who were happy when tanks where made of paper. Now you just troll the forums trying to **** people off and any relevant arguments you may have are lost in the noise. Smarten up and figure out that tanks are imbalanced, and that balancing them doesn't mean that they need to be junk.
I like tanks, and I'm primarily infantry. I like that they are bad ass and hard to kill with infantry. Being very effective at killing infantry is however unbalanced. Its simple math. Hard to be killed, hard to kill. Easy to be killed easy to kill. ISK doesn't balance it.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:21:00 -
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I have indisputable evidence showing that tanks are underpowered in this game----
http://worldoftanks.com
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Sam Booty
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.04 17:53:00 -
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A tanker complaining that the problem is lack of teamwork. LOL.
Although I like to laugh at infantry shooting their AV weapons and suffer, I hope CCP lowers the precision of weapons mounted on tanks to make it hard to target infantry. Since they have so much damage they should have a large deviation radius. Instead they have a needle precision which is ridiculous. Also give swarms and AV grenades a slight buff (like 20% damage) and reduce shield/armor hardeners efficiency (60% is just too much, it should be like 20%-30% max.). |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1043
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:25:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:If scrubs like duna corp can do it, why can't everybody else?
Oh wait, you don't know what teamwork is. Must be the First time you lost a tank, Post 1.7 Had to come here and cry about it... Given that you hide behind the red line all day and try to pew pew with your Large turret... Lmfao... Must've been a Jihadi.... The community should send that guy some ISK for touching you in the wrong places lol What I said was.............. crying? Next thing, you're going to post on my tank glue thread, and tell me I'm purposely getting it stuck to things. You can't even troll because you never understand what is said. You obviously were never good at reading comprehension. And I said AV too, not a LAV. Reading comprehension fail.
Aww don't be so butthurt over every post i make... I know it took you a while to think of that.. I know what you wrote and i love Jihad LAVs, the only viable AV for skinny's... Don't even wanna comment about your leet tanking skill lmfao.... |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:07:00 -
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Tanks should be hard to kill by infantry.
But they should be hard to kill infantry with.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:19:00 -
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only spker4th3dead would brag about being easy to kill and make it seems like the killer accomplished something.
im so glad I left tanks when we got the respec, at least now nobody can say I have connections to these idiots (only a few tankers are idiots that post on the forums)
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3931
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:25:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Tanks should be hard to kill by infantry.
But they should be hard to kill infantry with.
Yeah! Give me that! o/\o
That's what I've been saying!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:35:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:only spker4th3dead would brag about being easy to kill and make it seems like the killer accomplished something.
im so glad I left tanks when we got the respec, at least now nobody can say I have connections to these idiots (only a few tankers are idiots that post on the forums)
Well, you can go have fun with a cucumber in a corner.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:36:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:I left tanking because it was too hard for me.
Well, that figures.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:37:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:only spker4th3dead would brag about being easy to kill and make it seems like the killer accomplished something.
im so glad I left tanks when we got the respec, at least now nobody can say I have connections to these idiots (only a few tankers are idiots that post on the forums) Well, you can go have fun with a cucumber in a corner.
youv become pathetic, your one of the reasons people hardly tank tankers seriously on the forums anymore. your a joke now, your bragging about being killed by AV, your giving yourself even more of a bad name now than when were all tankers. im glad im not one anymore, also because I know there going to be nerfed hard once again in the future and im not going own with them again.
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:38:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol at the the butthurt
I thought you would be happy infantry that a tank died
They obv did something that you cant seem to do lol Oh, the Trolls gf is here What, you're jealous that Taka and I work very well together? Not my fault 3 different corps had to fight Red Star... uuh... nope. Teamwork on the field is a good thing, nobody is arguing that. we're on a forum right now, and nobody can take you seriously. Perhaps you don't know why so I'll tell you. Your opinions are biased and you don't seem to have an interest in balancing out the game. You are just as butt hurt as all the infantards who run at your tank shooting ARs, and AV dolts who were happy when tanks where made of paper. Now you just troll the forums trying to **** people off and any relevant arguments you may have are lost in the noise. Smarten up and figure out that tanks are imbalanced, and that balancing them doesn't mean that they need to be junk. I like tanks, and I'm primarily infantry. I like that they are bad ass and hard to kill with infantry. Being very effective at killing infantry is however unbalanced. Its simple math. Hard to be killed, hard to kill. Easy to be killed easy to kill. ISK doesn't balance it.
Wow, my opinions are biased...
Show me someone that wants their entire playstyle nerfed, making their entire SP investment next to worthless. Of course people will defend their playstyle.
Remember: when infantry complained about contact grenades, they got nerfed into the ground. When tankers complained about AV grenades, infantry laughed and said HTFU.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:39:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:only spker4th3dead would brag about being easy to kill and make it seems like the killer accomplished something.
im so glad I left tanks when we got the respec, at least now nobody can say I have connections to these idiots (only a few tankers are idiots that post on the forums) Well, you can go have fun with a cucumber in a corner. youv become pathetic, your one of the reasons people hardly tank tankers seriously on the forums anymore. your a joke now, your bragging about being killed by AV, your giving yourself even more of a bad name now than when were all tankers. im glad im not one anymore, also because I know there going to be nerfed hard once again in the future and im not going own with them again.
Bragging about being killed by AV? That's like bragging that I have herpes sores.
Go to school, you need that education badly.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:only spker4th3dead would brag about being easy to kill and make it seems like the killer accomplished something.
im so glad I left tanks when we got the respec, at least now nobody can say I have connections to these idiots (only a few tankers are idiots that post on the forums) Well, you can go have fun with a cucumber in a corner. youv become pathetic, your one of the reasons people hardly tank tankers seriously on the forums anymore. your a joke now, your bragging about being killed by AV, your giving yourself even more of a bad name now than when were all tankers. im glad im not one anymore, also because I know there going to be nerfed hard once again in the future and im not going own with them again. Bragging about being killed by AV? That's like bragging that I have herpes sores. Go to school, you need that education badly.
coming from a guy who got punked on a youtube video and still thinks hes bad, that's a laugh. if posting publically to the dust forums that you were easily killed by AV isn't bragging that you got killed, then I don't know what is.
you shoulda stopped when we had the stats posted 5 months before 1.7 hit.
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol at the the butthurt
I thought you would be happy infantry that a tank died
They obv did something that you cant seem to do lol Oh, the Trolls gf is here What, you're jealous that Taka and I work very well together? Not my fault 3 different corps had to fight Red Star... uuh... nope. Teamwork on the field is a good thing, nobody is arguing that. we're on a forum right now, and nobody can take you seriously. Perhaps you don't know why so I'll tell you. Your opinions are biased and you don't seem to have an interest in balancing out the game. You are just as butt hurt as all the infantards who run at your tank shooting ARs, and AV dolts who were happy when tanks where made of paper. Now you just troll the forums trying to **** people off and any relevant arguments you may have are lost in the noise. Smarten up and figure out that tanks are imbalanced, and that balancing them doesn't mean that they need to be junk. I like tanks, and I'm primarily infantry. I like that they are bad ass and hard to kill with infantry. Being very effective at killing infantry is however unbalanced. Its simple math. Hard to be killed, hard to kill. Easy to be killed easy to kill. ISK doesn't balance it. Wow, my opinions are biased... Show me someone that wants their entire playstyle nerfed, making their entire SP investment next to worthless. Of course people will defend their playstyle.Remember: when infantry complained about contact grenades, they got nerfed into the ground. When tankers complained about AV grenades, infantry laughed and said HTFU.
So I guess this means you are going to ignore what the previous poster actually said.
Tanks are OP at anti-infantry role. Infantry complan so much about tanks because they are way to good at killing infantry while being way to hard to kill by infantry.
The problem: The blaster turret.
The fix: nerf the blaster turret vs infantry.
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Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:58:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:So I guess this means you are going to ignore what the previous poster actually said.
Tanks are OP at anti-infantry role. Infantry complan so much about tanks because they are way to good at killing infantry while being way to hard to kill by infantry.
The problem: The blaster turret.
The fix: nerf the blaster turret vs infantry.
There, problem solved.
I think the blaster turret should be nerfed against vehicles actually, the blaster turrent is meant for killing infantry and other close targets.
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Sextus Hardcock
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:16:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol at the the butthurt
I thought you would be happy infantry that a tank died
They obv did something that you cant seem to do lol Oh, the Trolls gf is here What, you're jealous that Taka and I work very well together? Not my fault 3 different corps had to fight Red Star... uuh... nope. Teamwork on the field is a good thing, nobody is arguing that. we're on a forum right now, and nobody can take you seriously. Perhaps you don't know why so I'll tell you. Your opinions are biased and you don't seem to have an interest in balancing out the game. You are just as butt hurt as all the infantards who run at your tank shooting ARs, and AV dolts who were happy when tanks where made of paper. Now you just troll the forums trying to **** people off and any relevant arguments you may have are lost in the noise. Smarten up and figure out that tanks are imbalanced, and that balancing them doesn't mean that they need to be junk. I like tanks, and I'm primarily infantry. I like that they are bad ass and hard to kill with infantry. Being very effective at killing infantry is however unbalanced. Its simple math. Hard to be killed, hard to kill. Easy to be killed easy to kill. ISK doesn't balance it. Wow, my opinions are biased... Show me someone that wants their entire playstyle nerfed, making their entire SP investment next to worthless. Of course people will defend their playstyle.Remember: when infantry complained about contact grenades, they got nerfed into the ground. When tankers complained about AV grenades, infantry laughed and said HTFU.
No one wants their entire playstyle nerfed. Question then: Does your 'playstyle' require you to be able to kill infantry at a greater than 1:1 ratio? I.E. should you be able to solo 2 or more infantry and score kills? Or Do tanks exist to take out installations and other vehicles? This is the basis of the argument.
If tanks can slaughter infantry, they must be slaughtered by infantry. How else can it possibly be fair?
I am of the opinion that if a solution could be found that reduced a Tanks efficiency at killing infantry, balance would be achieved, without weakening the tank in any way (ie survivability)
what do you think about that?
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:17:00 -
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blaster turrets didnt change much in reality other than beeing made slower due to the fact that ccp removed it and we now have to spec into just to barely reach the old 1.6 turret rotation speed levels.
still takes me around 20-50 shots to kill a MOVING player.. when ppl stand still in front of the turret at close range it does tend to kill ppl pretty fast then.. but that is literally the only time it does kill efficiently. the same could be said for every other turret and gun out in the game. except for maybe the rail rifle and combat rifle they kill ppl extremely fast whether your moving or not. thus their opness..
when im driving my blaster tank i have the intent in helping to push the enemy team out of objectives. its pretty much necessary when the enemy team has spammed uplinks and is using full proto. having an endless hold on the objective.
so that fire power is obviously needed to help push the enemy proto team back while also giving some mobile cover for your own team to use to make it up to the enemy team to help push and eventually capture the area. its kind of challenging for both teams. that large blaster turret is the perfect weapon of choice for the tank because it has the ability to suppress the enemy team for a limited time allowing for all sorts of tactics to come into play. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.04 21:31:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Blah blah blah
What good is a tank if it can be destroyed by 2 HMGs? Not be able to destroy infantry? The only other role a tank would have is AV, which is of course what you all want, only able to take on tanks AND unable to run you over.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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