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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:18:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:You want to know why knives don't do significant damage? When the **** was the last time you saw a soldier charge a tank and try to stab it? "Uhhhh but these are special knives". In this setting, armor would have become just as advanced as the knives. You have failed the forums. "Seems legit". Kid, feed your poor brain. It seems to be dying.
Are you saying that in real life you never see a soldier charge a tank with a knife? Because I never saw a madrugar, a nova knife, nor a dropsuit in real life either.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:24:00 -
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........ it's a tank?! I'm not sure I get what your getting at here?!?
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3862
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:mollerz wrote:Seems legit!I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!! You disappoint me. If you will insult another man, at least have the decency to be creative.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3862
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!!
i don't think you understand. NOBODY LIKES YOU. Who has more likes? Biscuit rarely posts.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1962
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:mollerz wrote:Seems legit!I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!! Not surprised you'd say something stupid.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3862
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:04:00 -
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mollerz, this is a bit rediculous. I would only support this idea if you could jump on the tank and hit a weak spot multiple times.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
643
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:42:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Seems legit!I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? Try slicing an instalation, it does 0% damage.
I remember back in early uprising my Lav's were blown up by NK's.
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2241
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:50:00 -
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At best hypothetical- I'd have to flux a tank. maybe I'll kill it's shields.. depending. But let's say I carpet bomb the dude.
Now it is down to armor and I can knife it. But only charge swipe to for damage.
If a tank has 5000 armor and I am fully max skilled- LV5 knives, knife prof, and minja dropsuit:
I have to charge swipe it 4+ times to pop it.
-None of my damage resets any rep cycle -Hardeners would still be effective (including popping the shield back up)
The chances of a scout soloing a tank in that regard is nonsensical. It would be a rare occurrence, and certainly only the noobiest of tankers would succumb to such an attack. At best- a severely weakened tank on it's last legs would get killed. Most likely some damage would occur and the tank would blast off at LAV speed.
How is this OP in any way?
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2241
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:51:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:mollerz wrote:Seems legit!I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? Try slicing an instalation, it does 0% damage. I remember back in early uprising my Lav's were blown up by NK's.
I know it. Only dropsuit armor is affected.
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Kharga Lum
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Northern Army.
270
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:56:00 -
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This is a slippery slope argument. If a knife can hurt a tank why not other light weapons or side arms? Then we're back to tanks being killed by mobs of AR's.
It's a tank...a knife would barely hurt a car. |
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
2242
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:00:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:This is a slippery slope argument. If a knife can hurt a tank why not other light weapons or side arms? Then we're back to tanks being killed by mobs of AR's.
It's a tank...a knife would barely hurt a car.
A knife would never hurt a car/tank. A plasma cutter would.
A knife swipe is just a knife. A charged knife swipe is a plasma cutter.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1817
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:10:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!!
i don't think you understand. NOBODY LIKES YOU. Who has more likes? Me. I get the feeling that people generally like me. People don't like you.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4354
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Who has more likes?
Really? This is how we're doing things? We're going by something as insignificant as likes?
Okay then Spkr4TheDead.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
257
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Posted - 2014.02.03 16:05:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:You want to know why knives don't do significant damage? When the **** was the last time you saw a soldier charge a tank and try to stab it? "Uhhhh but these are special knives". In this setting, armor would have become just as advanced as the knives. You have failed the forums. "Seems legit". Kid, feed your poor brain. It seems to be dying. Are you saying that in real life you never see a soldier charge a tank with a knife? Because I never saw a madrugar, a nova knife, nor a dropsuit in real life either.
Do you comprehend analogous concepts?
A Madrugar is analogous to an Abrams. Nova Knives are analogous to military grade knives. Dropsuits are analogous to combat armor.
Try again, pal.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2533
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Posted - 2014.02.03 16:12:00 -
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TunRa wrote:I will always remember when me and 15 other blue berries attacked a red tank with assault rifles and SMGs, Pre 1.7 of course. I jumped on his gun and shot at his turrent with an SMG while the blues shoot him with their ars. Anyways he was helpless and we ended up poping him.
I can confirm doing this as well.
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
2623
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Posted - 2014.02.03 16:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!!
i don't think you understand. NOBODY LIKES YOU. Who has more likes?
WHO CARES!?!?!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1057
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Posted - 2014.02.03 16:18:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!! Ironically, that's exactly where you belong with your mentality. LOL wrong game It's people like you that want tanks so weak, that you can destroy them with knives, that need to go back to Call of Duty. I swear to god, you're all insane.
It's you who think tankers are so un skilled that a sprinting up knifer even poses much of a threat unless the tank makes a mistake themselfs.
I Personally would love seeing scouts all trying to jump onto a tank like a bunch of monkeys with a vendetta... trying to take out an elephant... |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
576
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:12:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:This is a slippery slope argument. If a knife can hurt a tank why not other light weapons or side arms? Then we're back to tanks being killed by mobs of AR's.
It's a tank...a knife would barely hurt a car.
You realize all other weapons in the game hurt a tank right? The NK does 0 damage. All other light weapons have at least a 1% dmg impact.
Awesome Pantaloons wrote:A Madrugar is analogous to an Abrams. Nova Knives are analogous to military grade knives. Dropsuits are analogous to combat armor. Try again, pal.
People who try and put realism into video games are already failing. Please tell me what an armor rep is analogous to? How about shields? How about third person tank view? For every "realistic" analogy you can supply there are 10 more that don't exist in real life.
Its about creative solutions to a problem. Its about hurting the morale of your opponent and bragging rights. You think anyone that uses NKs are actually better off using them than the fine rifles? Its a challenge and its a slap in the face to be killed by an NK user. Its the same as getting your tags taken in BF.
A nova knife in the BEST situation would likely need 3 or 4 charge swipes to take down a tanker solo. Considering fat heavys can backpedal outside of the charge blade swing, I don't think tankers could be stupid enough to die to a kniver. Which is the point to including it. It gives us another challenge and gives you free targets to kill.
Those complaining about this are likely just worried about the morale hit they will take when a 200hp scout suit blows up their tank when they were stupid enough to let it happen.
Scouts would be better off using remotes to take out your tank then NKs (remotes do 1500dmg and we can place 3 on your tank easy)....apparently you don't see the "creative content" and "fun factor" this is supposed to supply.
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