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mollerz Minja Scouts 2235	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote Seems legit! I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:29:00 - [2] - Quote I think you are mistaken on the damage being administered, even in small amounts, with knives. And if it's so small as to be insignificant, it may as well be considered to be unharmful to tanks. So again, why can't we do somewhat significant damage? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:31:00 - [3] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Knives can easily pierce Kevlar where as low caliber bullets can not so Knives are effective against armored infantry but a Knife vs. a tank the knife breaks. OK.. Charged swipe.. basically a plasma cutter. I'll agree a swipe would likely bounce off (but not break). You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:34:00 - [4] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: mollerz wrote: Seems legit! I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? LOL GO BACK TO CALL OF DUTY!!! LOLZ GO BACK TO MYSPACE You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:35:00 - [5] - Quote mr musturd wrote: mollerz wrote: I think you are mistaken on the damage being administered, even in small amounts, with knives. And if it's so small as to be insignificant, it may as well be considered to be unharmful to tanks. So again, why can't we do somewhat significant damage? We do no damage whatsoever now. Same goes with installations and crus. I use to blow up crus in chrome and when uprising first hit I took out 1 tank Good point! Installation/CRUs as well. Anything with armor really. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:44:00 - [6] - Quote Bunny Demon wrote: You'd be able to 3-4 shot a tank with knives (proto knives can do 1000+ damage apparently) I can do north of 1400 damage with a charge swipe. But let's break it down- I am saying shields- 0 damage or very minimal. like 1%. That means the tanks shields would have to be wiped out to even do anything. I am also saying that swipes won't do any damage, only charged swipes. I'm seeing tanks with 5K+ armor, so yes, that would be 4-5 (or more) charged swipe hits to pop the tank. Do you know how how hard it would be to take out a tanks shields, and then hit it with 4 or so charged swipes before they rolled off at LAV speeds? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2236	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:46:00 - [7] - Quote 8213 wrote: Most infantry weapons don't hurt armor or vehicle shields because it would interrupt rep cycles. A guy with NKs or a SMG would then in theory stop HP regeneration on the tank allowing proper AV to destroy it. Tankers would have 0 chance then. That is a valid point, and I am sure it's not an insurmountable issue. I'd be fine with the inability to interrupt rep cycles, but still apply damage. EDIT: I hid godin/roger whatever posts. I can no longer see them. I was very pleased to see now they just show up minimized. Sorry dude- I'll never read your posts again. TTFN. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2238	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:00:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: It's people like you that want tanks so weak, that you can destroy them with knives, that need to go back to Call of Duty. I swear to god, you're all insane. One could say you want to keep tanks so strong you don't have to worry about anything. Just like they are now. If a charged knife can split a heavy with 800 armor in half why can't it do similar damage to tank armor? And it's not just knives. If you cling to that, then you may as well move along. These are plasma cutters when they are charged- not sharp blades. They melt armor like hot butter. Tank armor is no different than phatty armor. It appears, the only reason installation/CRU/vehicle armor is exempt is to, once again, solely placate tankers to the end of lessening your QQ. You just want a win button that can't take damage. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2239	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:14:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: mollerz wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: It's people like you that want tanks so weak, that you can destroy them with knives, that need to go back to Call of Duty. I swear to god, you're all insane. One could say you want to keep tanks so strong you don't have to worry about anything. Just like they are now. If a charged knife can split a heavy with 800 armor in half why can't it do similar damage to tank armor? And it's not just knives. If you cling to that, then you may as well move along. These are plasma cutters when they are charged- not sharp blades. They melt armor like hot butter. Tank armor is no different than phatty armor. It appears, the only reason installation/CRU/vehicle armor is exempt is to, once again, solely placate tankers to the end of lessening your QQ. You just want a win button that can't take damage. There's no logical argument that infantry weapons should damage tanks at all. Given the game setting- sure there is. I agree small arms fire would be insignificant. The equivalent of a light saber would be significant damage. I realize you can't wrap your head around it. But, also, it's in your best interest to keep tanks as they are. I understand. I don't want you to QQ. But I would expect you to grasp the concept. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2239	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:18:00 - [10] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: You want to know why knives don't do significant damage? When the **** was the last time you saw a soldier charge a tank and try to stab it? "Uhhhh but these are special knives". In this setting, armor would have become just as advanced as the knives. You have failed the forums. "Seems legit". Kid, feed your poor brain. It seems to be dying. Are you saying that in real life you never see a soldier charge a tank with a knife? Because I never saw a madrugar, a nova knife, nor a dropsuit in real life either. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

mollerz Minja Scouts 2241	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:50:00 - [11] - Quote At best hypothetical- I'd have to flux a tank. maybe I'll kill it's shields.. depending. But let's say I carpet bomb the dude. Now it is down to armor and I can knife it. But only charge swipe to for damage. If a tank has 5000 armor and I am fully max skilled- LV5 knives, knife prof, and minja dropsuit: I have to charge swipe it 4+ times to pop it. -None of my damage resets any rep cycle -Hardeners would still be effective (including popping the shield back up) The chances of a scout soloing a tank in that regard is nonsensical. It would be a rare occurrence, and certainly only the noobiest of tankers would succumb to such an attack. At best- a severely weakened tank on it's last legs would get killed. Most likely some damage would occur and the tank would blast off at LAV speed. How is this OP in any way? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2241	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:51:00 - [12] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: mollerz wrote: Seems legit! I could see shields shrugging off our knives, but tank armor, much like dropsuit armor, should be damaged. It used to be that you could damage tanks with knives but it was removed. Is there any explanation for this? Try slicing an instalation, it does 0% damage. I remember back in early uprising my Lav's were blown up by NK's. I know it. Only dropsuit armor is affected. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz Minja Scouts 2242	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:00:00 - [13] - Quote Kharga Lum wrote: This is a slippery slope argument. If a knife can hurt a tank why not other light weapons or side arms? Then we're back to tanks being killed by mobs of AR's. It's a tank...a knife would barely hurt a car. A knife would never hurt a car/tank. A plasma cutter would. A knife swipe is just a knife. A charged knife swipe is a plasma cutter. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

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