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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2014.02.01 02:40:00 -
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i've doing some PC and been looking at the killfeed and style of these corps that we have been playing. besides the obvious FOTM, and how quickly people can drop you with it, there is another glaring issue. that is the grenade spam.
I am suggesting that nanohives do not supply grenades. Just got done with this PC and they had 3 logis chunking grenades the whole game.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1946
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Posted - 2014.02.01 02:56:00 -
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Agreed, Or perhaps special hives that only supply grenades
Minmatar Assault.
Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
405
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:29:00 -
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Or perhaps, htfu. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
398
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:33:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Or perhaps, htfu.
how about you **** your own face?
that HTFU got really old back in 2012 along with SoonTM.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
405
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:41:00 -
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So did whining about grenade spam. Then they changed the cluster ratios so hives could only give a few grenades before they popped. Yet here you are. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
399
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:45:00 -
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the hell you talking about? you can spam 8 grenades before being cut off from most nano hives.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:57:00 -
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I don't like nade spam but I don't fight Zatara that much to have an opinion, otherwise maybe reduce the resupply rate or increse the custers needed.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
3776
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:59:00 -
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They should give grenades. Core Grenades should simply use up a lot more CPU & PG.
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SGTFunyoun THEFIRST
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:07:00 -
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Or you can just learn how to play better and not worry about it. |
McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.01 05:53:00 -
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Greande spam will be a lot harder after the nanite nerf next build. Most hives will be cut nearly in half except for Caldari Logi's.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
Durka durka.... Bitch.
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killer carrot top
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.02.01 07:39:00 -
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Ahh ccp they found a corpse...and kept stabbing it just a little sadistic yeah? |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2014.02.01 08:10:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Greande spam will be a lot harder after the nanite nerf next build. Most hives will be cut nearly in half except for Caldari Logi's.
who knows hows thats gonna turn out. knowing CCP they will probably make nanohives weapons specific or something stupid like that.
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
165
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:03:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:I don't like nade spam but I don't fight Zatara that much to have an opinion, otherwise maybe reduce the resupply rate or increse the custers needed.
Evidently, as Zatara runs flux 'nades these days
Also as many have pointed out, grenade spam is nowhere near as much of a problem as it used to be. Just get in a tank yo |
Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
165
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:04:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They should give grenades. Core Grenades should simply use up a lot more CPU & PG.
Also they do! 48/6 compared to 18/3 of an M1 Locus. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
413
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Posted - 2014.02.01 14:57:00 -
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Grenades should only be replenshed at the supply depot and suit should only carry 2 grenades. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:01:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They should give grenades. Core Grenades should simply use up a lot more CPU & PG. Also they do! 48/6 compared to 18/3 of an M1 Locus. Raise the requirements even higher!
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
259
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:05:00 -
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As a logi that runs nanos it makes me mad when i throw out one for allies to use,and a ******** blueberry starts spamming grenades and uses it up in about 2-6 seconds. I'm ok with refilling mass drivers,but not grenades they cost too many nanites.
Sexy jutsu
Time to jaaam!
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:39:00 -
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I rock the thukker grenade....
I get ONE grenade and that's it...but its a devastating one. What do I do with it? I kill heavies.
Lets say I roll up on a heavy with a boundless HMG right? Wielding my Duvolle rifle, I will tear into him and I'll have his shield down and teeny smidge of armor about the time he finds me an annoyance and begins to unload on my candy ass.
What do I do? I jump in the air, tap the Thukker trigger and toss my 'nade at his feet....BOOM, DEAD.
But then I've got no 'nade....I used it. Its unrealistic for any soldier to only pack ONE grenade. So I dump a nanohive down, refill my 'nade and be on my merry way.
I don't think the nanohive will resupply the thukker grenade more than twice.....its a hefty beast 'nade. So yeah...I disagree.
You know what though? Try flanking nado spammers...hit the outskirts, roll up behind them...drop some remote explosives and blow their nado asses sky freaking high man....nado spammers are easy as hell to take out because they sit on their hives like babies on mama's teets...just roll up behind 'em and unleash hell.
I've seen the nado spam that you're speaking of and I did just that....4 of 'em there, all chucking nades from nano's and what did I do? I rolled up with remote explosives, tossed 'em (they sticky now, you can jump and toss them and they will go far) and once I got 4 boundless down, I waited for them to retreat to restock their nades, click click boom! (like the Saliva song)
+50 Kill +50 Kill +50 Kill +50 Kill +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment
TOTAL: 240wpts
Not because I'm awesome, not because I'm got MADD SKILLZ, YO or anything like that.....just because I stopped and actually used my brain for 3 seconds and thought...hey, I'll just flank these fools and kill them.
Ta-Da! Strategy! Hurrah! |
X7 lion
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:46:00 -
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some thing needs to change, nade spam is just stupid. |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:31:00 -
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If anyone remembers the fused locus grenade spam that everyone used and complained about. i see this as almost the same thing. sure you can go kill the grenadiers, but when you got 3 logis spawning up in a building just throwing down grenades without having the expose themselves, there is not much strategy in that. the only thing that should supply grenades are the supply depots. also, this will give the mass drivers a purpose.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:52:00 -
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Solutions guys. Htfu isn't a viable solution to any problem?! Neither is "play better"?! Anything that we suggest must be able to be debated, and tossed around helping players deal with problems.
Grenade spam is only effective against the "constant assault" strategy?! It works against teams that try to overrun areas with heavies and assaulters. They come in pre fluxed, and the shooter start their mag on your armor. Highly effective tactic!
The counter for this is ironically simple. Flux grenades! Carrying locus grenades in pc and factional is counter intuitive as you can easily blow up yourself or your mates. Carry flux! Fluxing their equipment stops grenade spam in it's tracks, or as it were mid lob lol! Also fluxing them in the process, and we all know logi's can be easy sniper and tact rifle targets.
Also, wearing more armor than shields can assist in survival! If your fluxed so what! Logi's are repping armor, not shields. And your harder to kill with the logi repping you, and triage hives going down. Start picking and buolding defensible locations where hives can be of use to your team as well. Stop rushing forward!
PC is broken anyway, and I have been advocating that a battle of such importance should likewise be longer. Until then your fighting a lopsided battle where only vets can ever hope to own districts, and most strategy won't work?! All they really have to do is spam one thing or another, pray for server lag, and get to the point first?! If they burn up your MMC before your stategy can ever take effect they have won anyway regardless to how dishonorable their tactics?!
But try it out what I suggested. Maybe it works out in one way or another, and maybe it doesn't. But obviously your being fluxed to death so armor would be a better plan.
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SGTFunyoun THEFIRST
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
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Posted - 2014.02.05 05:10:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:I rock the thukker grenade....
I get ONE grenade and that's it...but its a devastating one. What do I do with it? I kill heavies.
Lets say I roll up on a heavy with a boundless HMG right? Wielding my Duvolle rifle, I will tear into him and I'll have his shield down and teeny smidge of armor about the time he finds me an annoyance and begins to unload on my candy ass.
What do I do? I jump in the air, tap the Thukker trigger and toss my 'nade at his feet....BOOM, DEAD.
But then I've got no 'nade....I used it. Its unrealistic for any soldier to only pack ONE grenade. So I dump a nanohive down, refill my 'nade and be on my merry way.
I don't think the nanohive will resupply the thukker grenade more than twice.....its a hefty beast 'nade. So yeah...I disagree.
You know what though? Try flanking nado spammers...hit the outskirts, roll up behind them...drop some remote explosives and blow their nado asses sky freaking high man....nado spammers are easy as hell to take out because they sit on their hives like babies on mama's teets...just roll up behind 'em and unleash hell.
I've seen the nado spam that you're speaking of and I did just that....4 of 'em there, all chucking nades from nano's and what did I do? I rolled up with remote explosives, tossed 'em (they sticky now, you can jump and toss them and they will go far) and once I got 4 boundless down, I waited for them to retreat to restock their nades, click click boom! (like the Saliva song)
+50 Kill +50 Kill +50 Kill +50 Kill +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment +5 Destroyed Equipment
TOTAL: 240wpts
Not because I'm awesome, not because I'm got MADD SKILLZ, YO or anything like that.....just because I stopped and actually used my brain for 3 seconds and thought...hey, I'll just flank these fools and kill them.
Ta-Da! Strategy! Hurrah!
Yes... use some intelligence, and quit griping about grenade spamming. It isn't like they have infinite grenades... they have a finite supply... just shoot them and get them of the dang nano... or better yet... counter them with a grenade in the middle of them and blow the nano to pieces.
End of freaking nade spamming. |
SGTFunyoun THEFIRST
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
26
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Posted - 2014.02.05 05:16:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:If anyone remembers the fused locus grenade spam that everyone used and complained about. i see this as almost the same thing. sure you can go kill the grenadiers, but when you got 3 logis spawning up in a building just throwing down grenades without having the expose themselves, there is not much strategy in that. the only thing that should supply grenades are the supply depots. also, this will give the mass drivers a purpose.
The Mass Driver has a purpose... if you hate nade spamming so dang much... then nade spam back. Set a nano at the entrance of the building, and chuck nades at them...
For instance.
I stood at a Supply depot, just under the eves of a building a bunch of logi's were nade spamming from. I had a suit complement of three grenades, and everytime I threw one on the roof, the supply depot would replenish it... so in reality, I nade spammed a pack of nade spammers...
+ 50 Kill (x6) + 5 Destroyed Equipment (x9) + Bookoo WP's.
The thing that got me was one of them respawned and figured out where he got spammed from and came and zapped me with his battle rifle... and a grenade.
So your argument against nade spamming is invalid.
Because it is a completely viable tactic.
Just like HMG spamming, Mass Driver Spamming, Flintlock Spamming, and Swarm Launcher spamming.
So please... shush. |
Banjo Robertson
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
70
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Posted - 2014.02.05 05:27:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:i've doing some PC and been looking at the killfeed and style of these corps that we have been playing. besides the obvious FOTM, and how quickly people can drop you with it, there is another glaring issue. that is the grenade spam.
I am suggesting that nanohives do not supply grenades. Just got done with this PC and they had 3 logis chunking grenades the whole game.
I wouldn't mind grenades not being refilled by nanohives as long as grenades didnt cost CPU/PG for your dropsuit. If the logic of nanites building an entirely new grenades is bad, then grenades being a completely self-contained system as far as power and cpu should mean that no matter what you take with you it doesnt drain extra resources from your suit. |
abarkrishna
WarRavens
290
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Posted - 2014.02.05 09:51:00 -
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Already planned for 1.8.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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Yeeeuuuupppp
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2014.02.05 12:11:00 -
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Here's what you do, you put down a nano if your own and spam back and when you kill him he'll rage cause his ***** tactic- err I mean genius method was impossible to counter. P.s- leave the grenade spam, 3 av grenades don't kill a tank
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