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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:22:00 -
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amarr sentinal has 1 less slot
gal has 1 hp/s, better slots, better speed, and a adv plate gives more hp than the 75 hp difference between the 2.
WTF is the point of the amarr sentinal? also its not as wide as amarr.
they need to have the same low slot layout
gallente need a role bonus to reps, amarr need a role bonus to plates.
same slot layouts or remove amarr heavy
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
628
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:26:00 -
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The Amarr Sentinel, at proto level, has two highs and three lows. Gallente has one high and four lows.
Amarr has the advantage of damage mods. And whatever high slot mods that will come in the future. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:31:00 -
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Better resistance to projectiles. Probably going to be the best suit for heavy v. heavy for that reason .
At least until the weapon lineup improves.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:31:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:The Amarr Sentinel, at proto level, has two highs and three lows. Gallente has one high and four lows.
Amarr has the advantage of damage mods. And whatever high slot mods that will come in the future.
nerfed mods
amarr are supposed to have armor but they have less slots than gallente so they are ******* useless
gallente have more shields
the std amarr has 1 ******* low slot
lolz ccp, way to make it useless
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NK Scout
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:33:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Better resistance to projectiles. Probably going to be the best suit for heavy v. heavy for that reason .
At least until the weapon lineup improves.
gallente have more rail resistance
and gallente have more armor AND shield AND reps because they have more slots
did i mention gallente have more speed too?
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6434
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:33:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:amarr sentinal has 1 less slot
gal has 1 hp/s, better slots, better speed, and a adv plate gives more hp than the 75 hp difference between the 2.
WTF is the point of the amarr sentinal? also its not as wide as amarr.
they need to have the same low slot layout
gallente need a role bonus to reps, amarr need a role bonus to plates.
same slot layouts or remove amarr heavy
Looks better, better bonus damage to better weapons, Battleskirt, #Amarrswag, not a filthy whores suit....the list goes on.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:NK Scout wrote:amarr sentinal has 1 less slot
gal has 1 hp/s, better slots, better speed, and a adv plate gives more hp than the 75 hp difference between the 2.
WTF is the point of the amarr sentinal? also its not as wide as amarr.
they need to have the same low slot layout
gallente need a role bonus to reps, amarr need a role bonus to plates.
same slot layouts or remove amarr heavy Looks better, better bonus damage to better weapons, Battleskirt, #Amarrswag, not a filthy whores suit....the list goes on.
it has more shields, resistance to rails, faster speed, not as thick, basically more armor, more reps, so 5% less projectile resistance if null.
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Deltahawk Durango
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:38:00 -
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2 damage mods is what keeps me in amarr... also, i don't see a big difference in speed n armor but i see a pretty good advantage in stamina... no one ever says that but getting winded means death sometimes for us fatties... |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3731
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:39:00 -
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What do you mean by thickness? We don't even have the character models to compare yet (in actual size). If anything it currently looks like the Gallante suit will be the thickest.
Also, all suits have the same size hitbox.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:40:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:What do you mean by thickness? We don't even have the character models to compare yet (in actual size). If anything it currently looks like the Gallante suit will be the thickest.
Also, all suits have the same size hitbox.
but different races suits aren't as big, and the gallente can strafe better
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
769
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:51:00 -
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Amarr has more base armor... And has high slots for dmg mods.
Regardless if dmg mods are getting Nerfed or changed, it'll still be good.
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
632
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:51:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:The Amarr Sentinel, at proto level, has two highs and three lows. Gallente has one high and four lows.
Amarr has the advantage of damage mods. And whatever high slot mods that will come in the future. nerfed mods amarr are supposed to have armor but they have less slots than gallente so they are ******* useless gallente have more shields the std amarr has 1 ******* low slot lolz ccp, way to make it useless
The Amarr Sentinel and the Gallente Sentinel will have the same amount of slots. At standard level, the Amarr Sentinel will have one high and two lows.
Based on the stats released for the suits, it seems like CCP is doing away with the Amarr having one less slot.
Perhaps you should go over the suit stats again?
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
185
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:05:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Amarr has more base armor... And has high slots for dmg mods.
Regardless if dmg mods are getting Nerfed or changed, it'll still be good.
/me puts on adv plate and has more rep and armor than amarr ever could
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:08:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:NK Scout wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:The Amarr Sentinel, at proto level, has two highs and three lows. Gallente has one high and four lows.
Amarr has the advantage of damage mods. And whatever high slot mods that will come in the future. nerfed mods amarr are supposed to have armor but they have less slots than gallente so they are ******* useless gallente have more shields the std amarr has 1 ******* low slot lolz ccp, way to make it useless The Amarr Sentinel and the Gallente Sentinel will have the same amount of slots. At standard level, the Amarr Sentinel will have one high and two lows. Based on the stats released for the suits, it seems like CCP is doing away with the Amarr having one less slot. Perhaps you should go over the suit stats again?
3 highs 2 lows amarr proto
4 highs 1 low gal proto
Amarr is the worst suit
Stacking penalties too for damamage
And gal have more shield too
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:18:00 -
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At proto level they have stats and slots like this:
Gallente Sentinel: 15% armor resistance to Hybrid (Rail) and 10% armor resistance to projectile at level 5:
1 High Slot
4 Low Slots
525 Armor
390 Shield
Armor repair rate of 1/sec
Total base hp: 915
Base Speed of 3.85m/s
100 Stamina
15 Stamina Regeneration
76 PG
350 CPU
Amarr Sentinel: 15% armor resistance to projectile and 10% shield resistance to hybrid (Rail) at level 5
2 High Slots
3 Low Slots
600 Armor
360 Shield
No passive repair
Total base hp: 960
Base Speed 3.65m/s
125 Stamina
25 Stamina Regeneration
72 PG
360 CPU
Gallente having the faster movement speed (by 20cm) but they have less stamina and less regen than the Amarr counter part. Sure the Gallente has that passive 1/sec passive repair but it's nothing when you have 525 armor + plates.
As I see it the Amarr sentinel is the better one here as it has more armor, more shields, more stamina and better regen but lack the passive 1/sec armor repair. And (in my opinion) Amarr has "better" resistances than the Gallente.
This is purely in my opinion and as such is not based on math/science/facts/history/religion/other
NK Scout wrote:
3 highs 2 lows amarr proto
4 highs 1 low gal proto
Amarr is the worst suit
Stacking penalties too for damamage
And gal have more shield too
I'd recommend you double check:
(At proto level)
Minmatar sentinel has 3 highs and 2 lows
Amarr sentinel has 2 highs and 3 lows
Caldari sentinel has 4 highs and 1 low
Gallente sentinel has 1 high and 4 lows
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Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
59
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:22:00 -
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What advantage does the Amarr suit have over the Gallante?
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
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306
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:22:00 -
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The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy?
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6435
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:27:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:True Adamance wrote:NK Scout wrote:amarr sentinal has 1 less slot
gal has 1 hp/s, better slots, better speed, and a adv plate gives more hp than the 75 hp difference between the 2.
WTF is the point of the amarr sentinal? also its not as wide as amarr.
they need to have the same low slot layout
gallente need a role bonus to reps, amarr need a role bonus to plates.
same slot layouts or remove amarr heavy Looks better, better bonus damage to better weapons, Battleskirt, #Amarrswag, not a filthy whores suit....the list goes on. it has more shields, resistance to rails, faster speed, not as thick, basically more armor, more reps, so 5% less projectile resistance if null.
All of those efficient and useful things are superfluous when you talk about the Amarr heavy.
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
772
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:31:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Marad''er wrote:Amarr has more base armor... And has high slots for dmg mods.
Regardless if dmg mods are getting Nerfed or changed, it'll still be good. /me puts on adv plate and has more rep and armor than amarr ever could
I'd hardly call 1 rep/s special or even good. It's meh at best tbh.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:36:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:True Adamance wrote:NK Scout wrote:amarr sentinal has 1 less slot
gal has 1 hp/s, better slots, better speed, and a adv plate gives more hp than the 75 hp difference between the 2.
WTF is the point of the amarr sentinal? also its not as wide as amarr.
they need to have the same low slot layout
gallente need a role bonus to reps, amarr need a role bonus to plates.
same slot layouts or remove amarr heavy Looks better, better bonus damage to better weapons, Battleskirt, #Amarrswag, not a filthy whores suit....the list goes on. it has more shields, resistance to rails, faster speed, not as thick, basically more armor, more reps, so 5% less projectile resistance if null.
How can Gal have advantage in shields AND armor? Amarr has more base stats, I understand you are weighing heavy on the extra low slot. But the Amarr have an extra high slot meaning an extra extender meaning more shields.
The rep advantage is 1 hp/sec, not anything game changing. Amarr have more stamina and stamina regen.
Gal have slightly better resistances if there is no changes to rails...because rails are beasts. But I would guess a rail change is coming. |
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:42:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy?
Its a typo, I typed it wrongAnd lol damage mods, nefed, witha hmg lolz, and the gal have more shields to amar are ****, I have 1 at 3, compared to gal its ****
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:44:00 -
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It gets a battle skirt. Nothing is better than a battle skirt but a popped collar, and it has one of those too! This is why Amarr Heavy>Other Heavies.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:46:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:At proto level they have stats and slots like this: Gallente Sentinel: 15% armor resistance to Hybrid (Rail) and 10% armor resistance to projectile at level 5: 1 High Slot 4 Low Slots 525 Armor 390 Shield Armor repair rate of 1/sec Total base hp: 915 Base Speed of 3.85m/s 100 Stamina 15 Stamina Regeneration 76 PG 350 CPU Amarr Sentinel: 15% armor resistance to projectile and 10% shield resistance to hybrid (Rail) at level 5 2 High Slots 3 Low Slots 600 Armor 360 Shield No passive repair Total base hp: 960 Base Speed 3.65m/s 125 Stamina 25 Stamina Regeneration 72 PG 360 CPU Gallente having the faster movement speed (by 20cm) but they have less stamina and less regen than the Amarr counter part. Sure the Gallente has that passive 1/sec passive repair but it's nothing when you have 525 armor + plates. As I see it the Amarr sentinel is the better one here as it has more armor, more shields, more stamina and better regen but lack the passive 1/sec armor repair. And (in my opinion) Amarr has "better" resistances than the Gallente. This is purely in my opinion and as such is not based on math/science/facts/history/religion/other NK Scout wrote:
3 highs 2 lows amarr proto
4 highs 1 low gal proto
Amarr is the worst suit
Stacking penalties too for damamage
And gal have more shield too
I'd recommend you double check: (At proto level) Minmatar sentinel has 3 highs and 2 lows Amarr sentinel has 2 highs and 3 lows Caldari sentinel has 4 highs and 1 low Gallente sentinel has 1 high and 4 lows
Ah, you people are idiots sometimes
Galente, more shields, more resistance to rails, more speed, more slots, it has more amor AND rep than the amarr because it has a extra slot and 75 less armor, adv plate 110 armor
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:48:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy? Its a typo, I typed it wrongAnd lol damage mods, nefed, witha hmg lolz, and the gal have more shields to amar are ****, I have 1 at 3, compared to gal its ****
I got the bit where you don't like Dmg mods, but I don't quite understand the last sentence please elaborate.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
784
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:49:00 -
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Amarr sentinel has a resistance on shield one on armour. Gal's resistances are only on the armour.
That means pretty much all damage will get to the armour. It may be able to take more engagements but it isn't sustainable. Thats why it gets the armour reps. The armour is going to take more punishment.
The extra high gives the Amarr the option to be more sustainable with a recharger or to double up on the damage mods. However you fit it, it gives more options.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:51:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy? Its a typo, I typed it wrongAnd lol damage mods, nefed, witha hmg lolz, and the gal have more shields to amar are ****, I have 1 at 3, compared to gal its **** I got the bit where you don't like Dmg mods, but I don't quite understand the last sentence please elaborate.
Damage mods are getting nerfed and the hmg is too powerful to notice them, the gal have more shields, get more amor and rep than amarr (1 more alot=1 plate or rep=more armor than amarr and more rep)
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6436
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:51:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Amarr sentinel has a resistance on shield one on armour. Gal's resistances are only on the armour.
That means pretty much all damage will get to the armour. It may be able to take more engagements but it isn't sustainable. Thats why it gets the armour reps. The armour is going to take more punishment.
The extra high gives the Amarr the option to be more sustainable with a recharger or to double up on the damage mods. However you fit it, it gives more options.
No we don't we have two bonuses to armour resistances. Rail and Projectile, both being armour piercing ammunition types. Which means we tank armour far better than any other race.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Amarr sentinel has a resistance on shield one on armour. Gal's resistances are only on the armour.
That means pretty much all damage will get to the armour. It may be able to take more engagements but it isn't sustainable. Thats why it gets the armour reps. The armour is going to take more punishment.
The extra high gives the Amarr the option to be more sustainable with a recharger or to double up on the damage mods. However you fit it, it gives more options. No we don't we have two bonuses to armour resistances. Rail and Projectile, both being armour piercing ammunition types. Which means we tank armour far better than any other race.
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:56:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy? Its a typo, I typed it wrongAnd lol damage mods, nefed, witha hmg lolz, and the gal have more shields to amar are ****, I have 1 at 3, compared to gal its **** I got the bit where you don't like Dmg mods, but I don't quite understand the last sentence please elaborate. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the hmg is too powerful to notice them, the gal have more shields, get more amor and rep than amarr (1 more alot=1 plate or rep=more armor than amarr and more rep)
Ahh I see, though I don't agree with you're assessment of the HMG being too powerful not to no notice an extra 100 or so DPS and may I ask where you're info on them getting nerfed is coming from?
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:58:00 -
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Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:The Amarr Sentinel has a lot more flexibility than the Gallente for fitting gear especially the Dmg mods which make a hell of a difference when you're running a 1k+ DPS weapon even with stacking penalties. Whereas the Gallente suit is all about armour or speed meaning it's only really going to benefit from close range fire fights if it's going to be used for it's full potential.
And you got your last post wrong that suits slots are.
Amarr Proto 2 High 3 Low
Minmatar Proto 3 High 2 Low
Caldari Proto 4 High 1 Low
Gallente Proto 1 High 4 low
Why are you bothered about it anyways by the look of your character you're a bit of a Caldari fanboy? Its a typo, I typed it wrongAnd lol damage mods, nefed, witha hmg lolz, and the gal have more shields to amar are ****, I have 1 at 3, compared to gal its **** I got the bit where you don't like Dmg mods, but I don't quite understand the last sentence please elaborate. Damage mods are getting nerfed and the hmg is too powerful to notice them, the gal have more shields, get more amor and rep than amarr (1 more alot=1 plate or rep=more armor than amarr and more rep) Ahh I see, though I don't agree with you're assessment of the HMG being too powerful not to no notice an extra 100 or so DPS and may I ask where you're info on them getting nerfed is coming from?
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And ttk is getting fixed
So gal is better for armor tanking
Both innrepping, and armor, and resistance
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