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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:07:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Rumor I heard was that jihad jeeps will no longer be viable in 1.8 Something supposed to happen with REs.
This better stay a rumour, CCP.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
252
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:11:00 -
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There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
War never changes
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:13:00 -
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Can you link it to me? Or tell me which Dev so I can find it?
I would be desperately disappointed if it were removed.
If it's a flaw, then by all means fix it, but please put it back in legitimately! It's an awesome tactic, as much as it makes me cringe, and it really adds some depth to the battlefield. I'd be sorry to see it go.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:16:00 -
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Stick RE to red things it's good. Stick them to blue/green vehicles is wrong.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1344
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:20:00 -
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Why is it wrong, exactly? Do you mean not intended by the devs, or in your opinion?
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:25:00 -
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In my opinion of course.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
4219
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:41:00 -
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If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:44:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infantry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1345
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:50:00 -
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I actually think it's an awesome tactic; jihad jeeps guarantee a dead clone, the loss of some ISK, and aren't too difficult to counter. It's certainly the most efficient way to deal with my douchebag permahardened tank.
NK Scout wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infqntry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it
What? Really? Pretty much every FPS has something like REs, and it's not like they're hard to counter - it's kind of obvious. After all, if the scout runs through your group, and doesn't kill anyone, there's only one thing he's just dropped, and it ain't a nano hive .
And if you ARE a scout, why is there especial hate for something that OHKOs you? Basically everything does. God, I can oneshot some scouts with splash damage.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
4220
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:52:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infantry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it Halting the progress of an item due to irrational hatred is not smart, REs have been under preforming against vehicles since uprising began, not only that but a key feature to the RE has been removed hence it's reduction in effectiveness, a feature that is even stated in it's description should be in place.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3002
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:56:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
A FLAW!?!?!?
REs have been the best non-tank AV in all of 1.7! With or without the LAV to stick them to!
God I hope this is BS.
No.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2845
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:02:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:. After all, if the scout runs through your group, and doesn't kill anyone, there's only one thing he's just dropped, and it ain't a nano hive .
LOL isn't that the truth!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
4225
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:42:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:. After all, if the scout runs through your group, and doesn't kill anyone, there's only one thing he's just dropped, and it ain't a nano hive .
LOL isn't that the truth! It is for me
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
969
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:45:00 -
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Fearmongering! The Illuminati terrorists are using scare tactics to cause havoc and disruption among our ranks.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1092
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:25:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose?
also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4073
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:32:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infantry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it And your tank crutch isn't enough?
PEANUT BUTTER COOKIE MASTER COOKIE
So when are we gonna get those Matari Vehicles?
Please don't be SoonGäó
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1414
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:35:00 -
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Sticky to Tank-Approved Sticky to LAV-Failed
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1414
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:NK Scout wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infantry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it And your tank crutch isn't enough? Why do you change your sig every five seconds.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4083
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:31:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Why do you change your sig every five seconds.
Because I've yet to find a good one.
PEANUT BUTTER COOKIE MASTER COOKIE
So when are we gonna get those Matari Vehicles?
Please don't be SoonGäó
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ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
124
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:35:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Stick RE to red things it's good. Stick them to blue/green vehicles is wrong.
I'll agree with this. If they take the whole ability out, they better actually work on tanks, REs are the best Infantry countermeasure to tanks...
If we can't stick them to red tanks right when Scouts get their second equipment slot, I'll be quite upset. |
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:59:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Rumor I heard was that jihad jeeps will no longer be viable in 1.8 Something supposed to happen with REs. It's called "buffing AV".
Seriously, why the hell would you blow up 30k if you can use a 20k suit and possibly survive multiple encounters?
I fear a double-nerf coming. |
IVIaster LUKE
341
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:09:00 -
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Why can't they fix those proxy mines?
We wouldn't be talking about RE's then.
"The Sun shines on a dog's ass every once in awhile". ;)
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Lucifalic
Nos Nothi
234
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:11:00 -
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This is stupid. If they are sticky they should stick to everything. Suggesting it should stick to a red vehicle but not a blue one is just stupid. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
1370
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu.
What does this have to do with anything at all?
God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever.
At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Yeeeuuuupppp
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:17:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Sticky to Tank-Approved Sticky to LAV-Failed Sticky to blue or red lav ?
Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
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Mortedeamor
1306
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:18:00 -
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either 1 ccp will make re's not stick to friendly vehicles making no skilled re users actually have to run up and use them properly or b they will nerf them into the ground due to communities abuse either way i am gravy and happy with aan re adjustment
+1 for IWS to stay as cpm
more-tae-dee-um-more
stop asking how to pronounce my name its quiet irritating
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Yeeeuuuupppp
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:20:00 -
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I... I just want to kill a tank with 3 re's that stuck to him. That's it. I can care less about jihad jeeps (as I rarely tank).
Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1373
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:22:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I... I just want to kill a tank with 3 re's that stuck to him. That's it. I can care less about jihad jeeps (as I rarely tank).
I tank most of the time. I still couldn't care less.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
30
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:24:00 -
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Bump. Remoting is an excellent and valid strategy. Remotes = C4
Honor, Teamwork, Victory.
I may only be a meager soldier now. But I will become..
Legend!
Gallente Loyalist
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1089
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:27:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:If they take away my sticky I want my damn radius back, it's still in the description for fucks sake. Nah your infantry ohk crutch is enough I hate them for it I imagine there are lots of things for a noob to hate.
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Mortedeamor
1307
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:43:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:I... I just want to kill a tank with 3 re's that stuck to him. That's it. I can care less about jihad jeeps (as I rarely tank). you see people like you i have true respect my main is specced av i use re's as well but i am no unskilled jihhader. once this nerf occurs the true skilled re users can shine which i imagine is something they would want..now i will openly admit to adding re's to my medium frame av suit post 1.7 i do have them proto but i do not consider myself as a demolitions expert far from it i am still learning..it is merely an adaptation because i needed another bang on my medium av suit and did not on my forge.
but pre 1.7 i was one of the loudest crying for 2 out of my 3 only prof V weapons to be nerfed (the forge and the swam)..and i would say i am the only or maybe one among few who does not want ccp to buff av currently.
my character has 36 million sp specced into amarr infantry only 3 prof v weapon forge swarm and smg..a variety of proto light weapons and 3 proto infantry suits..i have aprox 3 million sp into tanks
i say dont buff av but please nerf re's jihadability it is a no skill art that detracts from the role of guardian. (my favorite role what i would say i am best at personally) logi being my secondary strong suit and then tanking in third.
+1 for IWS to stay as cpm
more-tae-dee-um-more
stop asking how to pronounce my name its quiet irritating
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
241
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:48:00 -
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the only thing they should change about R.E's is they should no longer become possesed and float above objective control panels. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
485
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:56:00 -
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Deploying RE on red tanks is essential in AV...
As for jihad jeeps, lol if you die to one.... you deserve it I've used jihad jeeps a few times and if the HAV has any sense he won't fall for it And if the terrain is uneven it becomes much harder to get a hit....
Jihad jeeps fit perfectly into Risk V Reward, You are risking your ass going for that kill and it is not as easy as it looks, so I think the reward is justified....
CCP please don't listen to tankers cries for mercy.... With all the **** Infantry have put up with in 1.7 Tamkers deserve suicidal mainiacs being able to kill them
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
1274
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:59:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. What does this have to do with anything at all? God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever. At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT.
Its funny these re-tards will hate on tankers even when you agree with them.
i'm a tanker and I support the keeping of jihad jeeps and buffing proxy REs or atleast removing the beep that gives them away. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:00:00 -
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Stickyness does need a fix.
Their behaviour should be consistent. They stick to walls. They stick to tanks. They stick to LAVs.
So why the hell do they not stick to infantry? |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
248
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:03:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Stickyness does need a fix.
Their behaviour should be consistent. They stick to walls. They stick to tanks. They stick to LAVs.
So why the hell do they not stick to infantry?
They attach via probably magnets, infantry not magnetic enough -> doesn't stick to infantry.
32db Mad Bomber.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1376
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:07:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. What does this have to do with anything at all? God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever. At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT. Its funny these re-tards will hate on tankers even when you agree with them. i'm a tanker and I support the keeping of jihad jeeps and buffing proxy REs or atleast removing the beep that gives them away.
I know, right?
You just can't win. Got a nice thread brewing at the moment; people like this make me want to keep it to myself; feel like there's a lot of discussion to be had.
And yeah. Either remove the beep from proxes, or buff the living sh*t out of their damage, cos I mean really.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1361
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:12:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:
I know, right?
You just can't win. Got a nice thread brewing at the moment; people like this make me want to keep it to myself; feel like there's a lot of discussion to be had.
And yeah. Either remove the beep from proxes, or buff the living sh*t out of their damage, cos I mean really.
Or buff activation range so that the beep is little more than the Prox saying "Hi, you're ******".
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
246
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:14:00 -
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If tankers can exploit militia gear to take control of the battlefield, honest infantry should be able to pack a car full of C4 and take it back. REs should remain sticky and be able to stick to anything. Red vehicles more so than anything, but even sticking them on friendly things not only makes sense but is completely valid. To hell with tanker QQ. You want jihad jeeps gone? Get out of your tin can and pick up a rifle, soldier! Down with tank spam!
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1361
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:18:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:the only thing they should change about R.E's is they should no longer become possesed and float above objective control panels. That is one of my favorite things about 1.7 REs.
That and the dumb red ******* who don't look up.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Lucifalic
Nos Nothi
238
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:20:00 -
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Here here |
Soldier Sorajord
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:20:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:boba's fetta wrote:the only thing they should change about R.E's is they should no longer become possesed and float above objective control panels. That is one of my favorite things about 1.7 REs. That and the dumb red ******* who don't look up. If you stick 'em To your LAV, then recall that LAV, they stay in midair
Sora's the name. Gallente is my game.
Yup! Gallente Specialist Here :)
Subsonic.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1379
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:20:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:If tankers can exploit militia gear to take control of the battlefield, honest infantry should be able to pack a car full of C4 and take it back. REs should remain sticky and be able to stick to anything. Red vehicles more so than anything, but even sticking them on friendly things not only makes sense but is completely valid. To hell with tanker QQ. You want jihad jeeps gone? Get out of your tin can and pick up a rifle, soldier! Down with tank spam!
If I'm having issues getting you with my rail, my HMG sets of your remotes quite nicely
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
249
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:24:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:If tankers can exploit militia gear to take control of the battlefield, honest infantry should be able to pack a car full of C4 and take it back. REs should remain sticky and be able to stick to anything. Red vehicles more so than anything, but even sticking them on friendly things not only makes sense but is completely valid. To hell with tanker QQ. You want jihad jeeps gone? Get out of your tin can and pick up a rifle, soldier! Down with tank spam! If I'm having issues getting you with my rail, my HMG sets of your remotes quite nicely
Had a tanker try this yesterday. He decided to use his tank as cover, so I shoved him against it and got the kill all the same. And even if he had backed away from his tank, if my remotes are near to him, I can hop out and detonate. And then I get a free tank.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
291
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:27:00 -
[45] - Quote
There's always someone who thinks they can change the game by starting fake "devs said" rumors.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
4254
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:50:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
how is it a flaw when it was done on purpose? also jihad jeeps are a sympton, do not hate the symptom, hate the disease aka tanks. beside that, jihad jeeps are easily countered by awareness, in short all the tank scrubs should just get gud and stfu. What does this have to do with anything at all? God damn! You really can't help yourself, can you! Only one person in this thread has claimed that REs are too powerful or whatever. At no point did I complain about them - if you could READ you'd know that I EXPLICITLY stated that I LIKED the mechanic and it should be KEPT. Its funny these re-tards will hate on tankers even when you agree with them. i'm a tanker and I support the keeping of jihad jeeps and buffing proxy REs or atleast removing the beep that gives them away. I know, right? You just can't win. Got a nice thread brewing at the moment; people like this make me want to keep it to myself; feel like there's a lot of discussion to be had. And yeah. Either remove the beep from proxes, or buff the living sh*t out of their damage, cos I mean really.
Always confused me, why make such a weak AV mine then smack it with a hard counter?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
435
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:52:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
A FLAW!?!?!? REs have been the best non-tank AV in all of 1.7! With or without the LAV to stick them to! God I hope this is BS. This
// Support Logi / Logi Bro // Forge Gunner // @KazeEyrou
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Eberk Baldek
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:13:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if CCP eliminated the possibility of making a Jihad LAV. They obviously won't be happy until tanks are utterly invincible. Oh, wait, they ARE already totally invincible! |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion
1275
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:23:00 -
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Eberk Baldek wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if CCP eliminated the possibility of making a Jihad LAV. They obviously won't be happy until tanks are utterly invincible. Oh, wait, they ARE already totally invincible!
They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
1385
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:34:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Eberk Baldek wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if CCP eliminated the possibility of making a Jihad LAV. They obviously won't be happy until tanks are utterly invincible. Oh, wait, they ARE already totally invincible! They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools.
I was watching someone use proxes to devastating effect the other day. Forge guns still work a treat, and clearly REs are effective. Basically, I agree entirely.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
283
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:44:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools.
Considering how hard tanks are stomping over infantry in most games (Just my observation here, but really hard) something has to give. It really doesn't matter if a few of us can handle tanks if they are running roughshod over 95% of the player base. It can't go on like this and we all know it.
Regarding the jihad jeeps... I have mixed feelings about them. On one hand, its great to see gameplay like this happen. Its very sanbox-esque. CCP gave us the tools and we figured out clever things to do with them, love it. Its also rather difficult if the enemy team is in the least bit competent, infantry or the tanker itself can blow you sky high if they see you. That said, it scales poorly. The same tactic can take out crap fit militia tanks the same as the best brick tanked tanks. I dunno, i feel like its perfect on the low to mid range of tanks, but a bit too powerful on the high end tanks.
More than anything though I would hate to lose this as a tactic. It adds to the game, and we would be worse off if was removed. We should be talking about balancing it, rather than removing it.
Also CCP, make them stick to infantry. Doooo eeeet
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:46:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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As an MD user without sidearm, I live and die by REs. Even more so in 1.8, but I'll be skilling into Amarr Logi if respec happens. |
Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3289
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:11:00 -
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DONT YOU DARE TOUCH MY FREAKING REMOTE EXPLOSIVES CCP!!!!!!
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:15:00 -
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If this is true and they do change it then Dust will become a whole lot more boring to play. If anything they should give vehicles a much higher scan profile so they can be seen easily. There's no way a 3 Tonne tank can avoid a drop-suits sensors. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:15:00 -
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ccp definitions
intended mechanic = put it in working or not with or without telling us and then balance it later
unintended mechanic = oh...whats this think working almost perfectly balanced with our game.. why didn't we think of this....oh well lets remove it because it makes us look bad when accidental mechanics work better than the intentional ones
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1400
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:24:00 -
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Azri Sarum wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:They are only invincible if you are terrible, I kill tanks on foot, in the air and with other tanks, I guess it takes a tanker to kill a tanker, regardless of the tools. Considering how hard tanks are stomping over infantry in most games (Just my observation here, but really hard) something has to give. It really doesn't matter if a few of us can handle tanks if they are running roughshod over 95% of the player base. It can't go on like this and we all know it. Regarding the jihad jeeps... I have mixed feelings about them. On one hand, its great to see gameplay like this happen. Its very sanbox-esque. CCP gave us the tools and we figured out clever things to do with them, love it. Its also rather difficult if the enemy team is in the least bit competent, infantry or the tanker itself can blow you sky high if they see you. That said, it scales poorly. The same tactic can take out crap fit militia tanks the same as the best brick tanked tanks. I dunno, i feel like its perfect on the low to mid range of tanks, but a bit too powerful on the high end tanks. More than anything though I would hate to lose this as a tactic. It adds to the game, and we would be worse off if was removed. We should be talking about balancing it, rather than removing it. Also CCP, make them stick to infantry. Doooo eeeet
It has the same effectiveness against a high-end tank, true, but a competent tanker shouldn't be caught out by it. Generally speaking, I cost the guy a few clones before he gets me; it's rare when I'm killed on the first couple of tries, and when that happens anything would have done the trick, so long as I was caught by surprise. It does irritate me when I get a hit on the LAV with my railgun but nothing explodes, though.
Akdhar Saif wrote:If this is true and they do change it then Dust will become a whole lot more boring to play. If anything they should give vehicles a much higher scan profile so they can be seen easily. There's no way a 3 Tonne tank can avoid a drop-suits sensors.
They don't ignore them.
Your ten metre radius is smaller than you think. I hear HAVs have a scan precision of about 150db; couldn't tell you where I heard that, though, only that it was somewhere on the forums.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1700
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:27:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:There is a post buy a dev somewhere about the RE sticking to lavs/tanks etc is a unintended flaw in the programming
LOL yeah right
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2738
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:29:00 -
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I had someone detonate an RE on me AFTER I killed him. Maybe they nerfed that ability?
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:34:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:ccp definitions
intended mechanic = put it in working or not with or without telling us and then balance it later
unintended mechanic = oh...whats this think working almost perfectly balanced with our game.. why didn't we think of this....oh well lets remove it because it makes us look bad when accidental mechanics work better than the intentional ones Read my mind. CCP really doesn't need the reputation of consistently breaking things they intentionally fix while fixing the game with unintended glitches.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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