DUST Search - [Exploit] Invincible players

Joven Genir wrote:

RED FARM wrote:

Sounds like someone is getting trolled. At the end of the match there is a big ol list of player names and their corp. Anyone would remember the 6 names of of one corp.

I didn't stay to the end of the match, there really wasn't any point. We were a little behind in MCC health, the hackers had that one cannon locked down completely, and the rest of the players on their side were doing a good enough job of holding down the other LC they owned. Since there were only 4 LC's in the match, that would keep the MCC damage rates tied, meaning we were certain to lose. To me the points for a loss weren't worth playing for another minute with a bunch of disgusting hackers. Just keep thinking it's trolling, and pray you never meet them in game.

Also, Not all of them on the other side were cheating, some could be hurt. To report the entire other side would've pointed fingers at some innocent players. It was only the 4 or 5 cowering in one building that were doing it. If I see it again I'll try more weapon types, but I'm very new to this game so I don't have access to much yet, and I still have a lot of doubts about what, if anything, can still hurt them through their exploit

And lastly? that big'ol list of players wouldn't have helped much if all I saw of their names were a bunch of smudged lines. Anyone here ever play these HD-era games on an old 20-inch CRT? The name fonts in most games now, indeed most fonts for most text, are about as readable on that setup as a shopping list that's gone through the wash in your pants pocket, I just gave up.

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Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:23:00 - [1] - Quote I just faced a whole squad of'em.. Could unload an entire clip on them with the rifle barrel up to their chest and do Nothing to them, not a single bit of damage at all! I might not have noticed except that they were flaunting it and not even shooting back unless you went to capture something, so I walked among them, tried everything I had on hand, even the butt of a rifle, no good. The ONLY thing I saw take one of them down was a direct hit from a friendly tank, and even that might've just been a random opposing player who wasn't cheating. I have a very old and crap TV (we're talking CRT type here) and not even S-Video is clean enough for me to read names in most games, so if ANYONE else faces this, PLEASE submit tickets with names! This has GOT to stop! I've submitted my own for what little it's worth, but I thought I'd go ahead and make a little public noise here too in hopes we'll get the eyes of Dust out there looking for them! I Suck at shooters, but it's no fun to lose when there is NO way to win for an honest player! Devs and GM's? Please let there be a way to track and find these people and their exploit, and get it the HELL out of the game forever! Dust won't be any fun anyone if everyone figures this out and we have battles with nothing but a bunch of immortals on the field stare'n at eachother
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 118	Posted - 2014.01.27 11:55:00 - [2] - Quote Considering the number of DUST players, you're not giving much of details. More likely, they were from another world zone (Asia?) and the massive lag resulted in you being unable to hit them since when you were aiming, they had already moved elsewhere. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 92	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:10:00 - [3] - Quote did you experience any lag during the match? rubberbanding, stutter stepping, lack of hit markers? i was in several matches as of late where this has been happening. i watched a tank during a dom match (the one with the bridge and "A" is on the bridge) where it started at the mouth of the bridge then all of a sudden appeared at valley below in the blink of an eye. it took 5 railgun emplacement hits without any damage and not even a hit marker. i decided to just go and snipe for the match. no sense in losing suits, even free ones, to that nonsense. one of the opposing players e-mailed me after the match saying they were recording it and will send it to ccp. i hope they do. i don't know if it was just lag due to poor world zones (asia players on us servers?) or the what the email suggested... lag switching? if it is just proximity lag from non-us players hitting up the us server, i don't think ccp can do much about it other than possibly ban non-regional people from regional servers? problem is, the us/north american server is the most popular. the oceanic server is crap, and i don't know about the others. but, i've played with north american people who have tons of lag, so i really don't know what's causing it. i don't mind playing with people from around the world. a lot of them don't lag too much, or at all. i think it is fun and culturally enriching. but, if you look at your latency meter has zero bars (this goes for NA players too), you might want to reconsider the server you are on.
TYR CAINE Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:21:00 - [4] - Quote I've run across people with insane hp 6000 shield/6000 armor. also had a Jihad jeep ram me I blow up he drives away. weird stuff
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 194	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:37:00 - [5] - Quote TYR CAINE wrote: I've run across people with insane hp 6000 shield/6000 armor. also had a Jihad jeep ram me I blow up he drives away. weird stuff Players in dropsuits with 6k Shield and Armor? What kind of suits/fittings are those? I'll take two. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 18	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:51:00 - [6] - Quote take names and report them to CCP for further investigation. Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere! Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 02:54:00 - [7] - Quote ZERO LAG in the match, and more important, THEY WERE NOT RETURNING FIRE EVER, unless I tried to hack something then they'd kill me instantly.. They weren't moving out of lines of fire, they'd be there long before and after I'd sent shots at POINT BLANK RANGE. They were invincible, they knew it, and were flaunting it
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:03:00 - [8] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: take names and report them to CCP for further investigation. As stated in original post, I more or less can't take names for any reason ever, I'm playing on a very old NON-HD / NON SD Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) type television, the name font is so small as to be little more then a smudged line even when using S-video inputs. I did at least ticket the problem for what it's worth, but I hope to see many more players keeping an eye out for this. it's Easy to spot, just try to kill them, nothing will work, and they'll stand around and LET you try, they did NOT return fire, ever, for five minutes or more.. So it's not lag because the instant I'd make a move to hack something the group of cheaters would instantly kill me, otherwise they were saving their ammo because anyone on foot was no threat to them at all!
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:10:00 - [9] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: TYR CAINE wrote: I've run across people with insane hp 6000 shield/6000 armor. also had a Jihad jeep ram me I blow up he drives away. weird stuff Players in dropsuits with 6k Shield and Armor? What kind of suits/fittings are those? I'll take two. you'd think though, even starter gear would make a freaking DENT in that 6k if I could fully unload multiple clips on them (easy to do when they don't even try to shoot you back) and it wasn't, Ever! their shield/armor gauges never moved the squad in question was guarding one Longcannon site inside a building, I spent a good half the match IN that building With them, in starter gear, and they never made a move to kill me, ever.. doesn't that stand out as ODD to anyone? Lag is one thing but they were not even pulling the trigger on me.. they dropped others on my side who tried to take the cannon without any trouble at all. But I wasn't trying to take the cannon, I was trying to find out why the HELL this noob here wasn't dead on the floor 20 times over! It became pretty obvious pretty quickly
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:33:00 - [10] - Quote Ghermard-ol Dizeriois wrote: Considering the number of DUST players, you're not giving much of details. More likely, they were from another world zone (Asia?) and the massive lag resulted in you being unable to hit them since when you were aiming, they had already moved elsewhere. Then why did they let me stand around near their long-cannon, and not even try to fire back? WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOOT BACK? Unless you know, I so much as touch it, then, and ONLY then would you become a bleeding pile on the floor.. watched one guy on my side end up that way, I died once trying it, came back, and just hung out with them inside their little building with about 5 of them, for minutes on end, and they never made a move to kill me so long as I kept my hands to myself (I could shoot at them all I wanted though, saw plenty of clean hits, and never made a scratch). This behavior was FREAKISHLY ODD too me, they had minutes upon minutes to kill me, and only did so the one time I tried to capture the cannon. The rest of the time their guns were silent. Is that normal for lagging players? or players of ANY kind for that matter? There's only one explanation that makes sense to me: they were saving ammo for players trying to capture the cannon because they were going to be alive doing it for the entire match, thanks to their invincibility.

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 703	Posted - 2014.01.28 05:12:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah. I'm sick and tired of this happening. No, I'm not lagging. Nothing of the sort. Is just that sometimes, bullets don't register. What the ****?
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 118	Posted - 2014.01.28 11:00:00 - [12] - Quote If you can't remember their names and/or their Corporation, then we can only takeyour words as a general "warning" since no further investigations can be conducted upon. Next time, press upper arrow on your DS3 and check who are these players, then write their name/corp somewhere; I won't ask you to take a screenshot (with your camera or smartphone) if your TV is old and it's a CRT. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1598	Posted - 2014.01.28 13:27:00 - [13] - Quote OP, were you revived before this happened? In the last week twice when I've been revived I had an out of body experience...ie: my body was stuck in the geometry I died on but my view made it look like I was running around. When I fired my gun, I was firing back where I was killed. That would make it seem like the guys you were shooting at were invincible.
cranium79 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 92	Posted - 2014.01.28 14:11:00 - [14] - Quote OP... so you were seeing hitmarkers? definitely strange. anyone else in that match care to comment??? there has to be someone else who was in that match, either a blue or red, who can comment on this. with 31 other players in that match, someone else from that match should post. best thing you can do OP, is to put down the match type, time, date, and server you were on. hopefully you will get a blue post on this.
KIRSTY j The Walking Targets 46	Posted - 2014.01.28 14:49:00 - [15] - Quote I have been having a lot of issues myself. Some players/squads just can't be killed. It's really put me off playing. I can't seem to play against people from other countries and now I'm forced to play on Oceania with the MCC campers. Most of the time the hit detection on my server is ok until someone from Asia/US play on there.
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:55:00 - [16] - Quote Many of you are still missing one key point: THEY CHOSE NOT TO FIRE on anyone not taking a long-cannon away from them! Lag, Hit detection, and other glitches don't really explain why they would not fire AT ALL on ANY opponent, until that opponent threatened their chances of winning the match directly. The chances that we Might shoot at them, that we Might hit them, DID NOT constitute a threat to them and their behavior reflected that, and it wasn't just me they'd hold fire on. The range we're talking about is between 0-20 feet most of the time because it was a very small building we were clustered inside of, so it's not even remotely like either party should have had much chance of missing. In the clearest instance of it, I blocked a doorway, and while one was stuck in front of me I unloaded the better part of a clip from a starter assault riffle with the barrel of the gun basically On his chest plate, and neither HP indicator moved a single pixel. But make that long-cannon indicator blink and I'd be instantly mowed down from three directions! That tells me that no, I wasn't lagged/glitched with a body actually somewhere else on the map, and they weren't either. I was right there, really taking the long-cannon, and that's right where I died. For the record, it was Tranquility server, Skirmish (I'm not in a corp yet so these were the public matches) and about 2-3am PST, I think on the morning of the 27th. If it helps, it was the last match I played, I haven't been in a match since. This isn't my first rodeo, I've seen multi-second long lag before, rubber-banding and the like. I've seen missed hits because of such lag in games.. This was not the case, all characters were moving smoothly and very apparently in full control of their bodies at all times. I spent 5 minutes in literal SPITTING distance of these guys, getting physically in their way, making lots of noise with my guns, and generally being as annoying a prat as I could be, and they did NOTHING about me... Almost like Borg Drones in Star Trek. But so much as Touch something really important, and my body was hitting the floor before I could snap my fingers! I refuse to believe lag was involved in their extremely odd behavior
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:07:00 - [17] - Quote Ghermard-ol Dizeriois wrote: If you can't remember their names and/or their Corporation, then we can only takeyour words as a general "warning" since no further investigations can be conducted upon. Next time, press upper arrow on your DS3 and check who are these players, then write their name/corp somewhere; I won't ask you to take a screenshot (with your camera or smartphone) if your TV is old and it's a CRT. If that gets me a better display of the names I just might owe you some huge thanks for that tip, should I ever run into this again. I have a feeling I might too, since it seemed to be an active and organized squad of about 4-5 players doing this. That tells me this possible 'exploit' has already been shared, and soon the world will know how it works. It also strikes me that they chose a building with a solid roof and good hiding places, since I saw a tank blast someone who might've been a part of it, and that Did wipe that clone out. It would seem really high explosive hits might still be an issue for them, so by cowering inside a little building, tanks would have a hell of a time reaching them, and orbital strikes would be simply out of the question. Red players in open areas didn't seem to be a part of it, I could hurt them.. There was a detectable tactic to this, a method to their madness. They were using it to win and they knew exactly how!
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 118	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:54:00 - [18] - Quote Joven Genir wrote: If that gets me a better display of the names I just might owe you some huge thanks for that tip, should I ever run into this again. I have a feeling I might too, since it seemed to be an active and organized squad of about 4-5 players doing this. That tells me this possible 'exploit' has already been shared, and soon the world will know how it works. By doing what I said, you will display the players currently deployed in your battle, both allies and enemies. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 64	Posted - 2014.01.29 02:20:00 - [19] - Quote Sounds like someone is getting trolled. At the end of the match there is a big ol list of player names and their corp. Anyone would remember the 6 names of of one corp. Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
Joven Genir Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.01.30 01:29:00 - [20] - Quote RED FARM wrote: Sounds like someone is getting trolled. At the end of the match there is a big ol list of player names and their corp. Anyone would remember the 6 names of of one corp. I didn't stay to the end of the match, there really wasn't any point. We were a little behind in MCC health, the hackers had that one cannon locked down completely, and the rest of the players on their side were doing a good enough job of holding down the other LC they owned. Since there were only 4 LC's in the match, that would keep the MCC damage rates tied, meaning we were certain to lose. To me the points for a loss weren't worth playing for another minute with a bunch of disgusting hackers. Just keep thinking it's trolling, and pray you never meet them in game. Also, Not all of them on the other side were cheating, some could be hurt. To report the entire other side would've pointed fingers at some innocent players. It was only the 4 or 5 cowering in one building that were doing it. If I see it again I'll try more weapon types, but I'm very new to this game so I don't have access to much yet, and I still have a lot of doubts about what, if anything, can still hurt them through their exploit And lastly? that big'ol list of players wouldn't have helped much if all I saw of their names were a bunch of smudged lines. Anyone here ever play these HD-era games on an old 20-inch CRT? The name fonts in most games now, indeed most fonts for most text, are about as readable on that setup as a shopping list that's gone through the wash in your pants pocket, I just gave up.

CEO Creno Kill Mode Activated Public Disorder. 369	Posted - 2014.01.30 12:28:00 - [21] - Quote Joven Genir wrote: I just faced a whole squad of'em.. Could unload an entire clip on them with the rifle barrel up to their chest and do Nothing to them, not a single bit of damage at all! I might not have noticed except that they were flaunting it and not even shooting back unless you went to capture something, so I walked among them, tried everything I had on hand, even the butt of a rifle, no good. The ONLY thing I saw take one of them down was a direct hit from a friendly tank, and even that might've just been a random opposing player who wasn't cheating. I have a very old and crap TV (we're talking CRT type here) and not even S-Video is clean enough for me to read names in most games, so if ANYONE else faces this, PLEASE submit tickets with names! This has GOT to stop! I've submitted my own for what little it's worth, but I thought I'd go ahead and make a little public noise here too in hopes we'll get the eyes of Dust out there looking for them! I Suck at shooters, but it's no fun to lose when there is NO way to win for an honest player! Devs and GM's? Please let there be a way to track and find these people and their exploit, and get it the HELL out of the game forever! Dust won't be any fun anyone if everyone figures this out and we have battles with nothing but a bunch of immortals on the field stare'n at eachother Clearly you are having two very different problems, first you're using a slow Frame Per Second televisision that can't keep up with the modern day games or consoles, second you are experiencing a game delay via your router/firewall which is preventing game data from transfering at the fastest possible rate. Both are easily fixable by buying a new $200 Walmart hd tv that can handle more then a N64 console, and the second one can be found on the forum called Port forwarding in Technical Support. Follow the simple instructions and the only lag you will face will be caused by using the internet/pandora while playing. Playing this game on a standard definition TV is like trying to look through a scratched up magnifying glass.
Croned 549	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:18:00 - [22] - Quote Joven Genir wrote: RED FARM wrote: Sounds like someone is getting trolled. At the end of the match there is a big ol list of player names and their corp. Anyone would remember the 6 names of of one corp. I didn't stay to the end of the match, there really wasn't any point. We were a little behind in MCC health, the hackers had that one cannon locked down completely, and the rest of the players on their side were doing a good enough job of holding down the other LC they owned. Since there were only 4 LC's in the match, that would keep the MCC damage rates tied, meaning we were certain to lose. To me the points for a loss weren't worth playing for another minute with a bunch of disgusting hackers. Just keep thinking it's trolling, and pray you never meet them in game. Also, Not all of them on the other side were cheating, some could be hurt. To report the entire other side would've pointed fingers at some innocent players. It was only the 4 or 5 cowering in one building that were doing it. If I see it again I'll try more weapon types, but I'm very new to this game so I don't have access to much yet, and I still have a lot of doubts about what, if anything, can still hurt them through their exploit And lastly? that big'ol list of players wouldn't have helped much if all I saw of their names were a bunch of smudged lines. Anyone here ever play these HD-era games on an old 20-inch CRT? The name fonts in most games now, indeed most fonts for most text, are about as readable on that setup as a shopping list that's gone through the wash in your pants pocket, I just gave up. There's this handy little option in your Neocom that allows you to see the stats/leaderboards of your last battle. Have you tried taking a look at that? You mentioned earlier that you haven't played another battle since. If you have played another battle since and no longer have access to the end of battle stats, just wait for it to happen again to you or someone else. If it never happens again, then I guess it's not an issue. And if you seriously can't read text displayed on your screen, then how do we know if what you experienced in game is how you saw it? You could have been on your own side the entire time and not realized it. Son of a plasma cannon!
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1608	Posted - 2014.01.31 13:54:00 - [23] - Quote OP, you didn't answer the question - were you revived by a nanite injector before this happened? What you're describing sounds a lot like a bug that has popped up recently, which I've experienced twice now. Sometimes when you get revived on certain terrain meshes, like on the pipes in Line Harvest, your revived body remains stuck in the terrain but you can still run around. To other players you're not moving - you're invisible. That's probably why they were ignoring you. When you shoot while in this state your gun is firing at the location where you were revived. This situation continues until you either suicide through the neocom or a red finds your body stuck in the ground and shoots it. You were probably having this out of body experience.


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