DUST Search - Everything I think is wrong with Dust 514

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

wtf KHW. You are like that politician that talks about paying off external debt, balancing budget, bringing troops home, and guaranteeing retirement and health insurance to citizens. Reading your essays I always get the bitter-sweet feeling like I want all those things but know that they will never happen.

Is there really a point in copy-pasting the same thoughts you and everyone else has posted dozens of times? - 1.

By the way, I love how when ppl try to describe 'a perfect Dust' they paint a picture of MAG : )

Might make things more clear for the devs to see it all in one place, but that's not why I made it. There probably isn't a point, but I don't think there is much point to posting on the forums given how little sign we have that CCP is listening these past 2 weeks. I guess its likely a very organized vent thread. It feels good to put everything that bothers me in one neat place.

As for the MAG comment, the only thing I think could give you that impression is my view of game modes, so I'm not really sure which part makes you think I want to turn Dust into MAG.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8562	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:26:00 - [31] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: wtf KHW. You are like that politician that talks about paying off external debt, balancing budget, bringing troops home, and guaranteeing retirement and health insurance to citizens. Reading your essays I always get the bitter-sweet feeling like I want all those things but know that they will never happen. Is there really a point in copy-pasting the same thoughts you and everyone else has posted dozens of times? - 1. By the way, I love how when ppl try to describe 'a perfect Dust' they paint a picture of MAG : ) Might make things more clear for the devs to see it all in one place, but that's not why I made it. There probably isn't a point, but I don't think there is much point to posting on the forums given how little sign we have that CCP is listening these past 2 weeks. I guess its likely a very organized vent thread. It feels good to put everything that bothers me in one neat place. As for the MAG comment, the only thing I think could give you that impression is my view of game modes, so I'm not really sure which part makes you think I want to turn Dust into MAG. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 310	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:05:00 - [32] - Quote Excellent thread. Dust is unfortunately still a year away from being the game it needs to be.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1565	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:15:00 - [33] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Not all the assault rifle variants suck- It may just be because I don't have aim assist turned on (Add that to the list), but I cut people down much more quickly with assault combat rifles than with normal combat rifles. He meant the AR variants, not the Assault variants of the rifles. So Burst AR, Tactical AR and Breach AR. Edit: Well done OP, I think I agree with most of it, if not everything. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
mollerz Minja Scouts 2122	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:25:00 - [34] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Remove lag... lag's fixed for the most part. False. Lag is still present in a big way. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 240	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:32:00 - [35] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: [...] Which leads me to a personal gripe: You cannot see what equipment and weapons an infantry player has equipped besides what is actively being used. There is no way for vehicle users to reliably identify AV infantry at a glance, and thus avoid or deal with them first. Likewise, you cannot see if a logistics suit is running a repair tool unless it is actively being used. Adding that feature would improve the general game play experience for everyone. Just a thought. Yeah this would be a good addition I think, and make sense that you could.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1565	Posted - 2014.01.27 09:48:00 - [36] - Quote Add a better command structure? For a game like Dust that wants to be tactical there has to be a much better command structure like suggested here. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 871	Posted - 2014.01.27 10:08:00 - [37] - Quote Pretty much everything on my list to slap CCP round the head with at Fanfest in 12 weeks. Don't get me started of the corp mechanics.... Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2014.01.27 10:22:00 - [38] - Quote +1 to the OP Very good summary.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 601	Posted - 2014.01.27 10:31:00 - [39] - Quote Great thread , I agree with almost everything you say. I think you forgot a section about maps and map design, which is what most independent reviews picked up on: too large, too empty. Giant sniper bowls and redline-fests... not to mention you can still fall through maps if you are (un)lucky. I guess you could even have a section on all the problems the redline induces... lack of player market too... and any kind of meaningful "economy"... bit depressing when you put it that way. :(
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1041	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:37:00 - [40] - Quote Another good summary +1 Here are a couple from the dropship group. Supply Depots at hard to reach or impossible locations for most vehicles For dropships you basically have to land beside a supply depot to resupply RDVs are still the number one killer of dropships aka bad collision detection and damage. Camera angle and mobility still needs improvement. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8638	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:05:00 - [41] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Remove lag... lag's fixed for the most part. Last time I played last week, I was getting some pretty extreme lag, worst than I ever experienced in Dust. My brother was also experiencing it yesterday in Dust as well. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2106	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:13:00 - [42] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Remove lag... lag's fixed for the most part. Last time I played last week, I was getting some pretty extreme lag, wrst than I ever experienced in Dust. My brother was also experiencing it yesterday in Dust as well. I must be lucky I haven't gotten lag since... A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 557	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:49:00 - [43] - Quote I'll disagree on Isk payouts, they are not too low. There are variables we do not know that contribute to afk getting more isk for less work. They need to make the formula known for us to give any real feedback. I'll add in information that current Db level, precision level, damage are not given to the player. Most everything else I can agree with.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1489	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:00:00 - [44] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: wtf KHW. You are like that politician that talks about paying off external debt, balancing budget, bringing troops home, and guaranteeing retirement and health insurance to citizens. Reading your essays I always get the bitter-sweet feeling like I want all those things but know that they will never happen. Is there really a point in copy-pasting the same thoughts you and everyone else has posted dozens of times? - 1. By the way, I love how when ppl try to describe 'a perfect Dust' they paint a picture of MAG : ) Might make things more clear for the devs to see it all in one place, but that's not why I made it. There probably isn't a point, but I don't think there is much point to posting on the forums given how little sign we have that CCP is listening these past 2 weeks. I guess its likely a very organized vent thread. It feels good to put everything that bothers me in one neat place. As for the MAG comment, the only thing I think could give you that impression is my view of game modes, so I'm not really sure which part makes you think I want to turn Dust into MAG. Definitely worth keeping a thread tracking these issues active on the forums. Imo by rights a list like this should be owned and actively-maintained by CCP, and posted in conjunction with the also actively-maintained roadmap thread. Agree with the vast bulk of what you have Kage, could add more to it ofc, naturally have a few quibbles but a valuable post all round. As far as MAG goes loved it a lot, was great and could have been epic. But if I thought that was what DUST was working towards i would have been gone a long time ago. I support SP rollover.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 991	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:00:00 - [45] - Quote Kushmir Nadian wrote: Lack of gameplay modes my biggest issue as well. Its the reason I take breaks for months at a time... Skirmish/Domination over and over and over and over? SERIOUSLY? Ambush not even worthy of mention de_dust Counter-strike.... If that map can be played for near 20 years and still be enjoyable to play for an hour straight... Then its the maps themselfs not the game mode.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1494	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:01:00 - [46] - Quote Nailed it Fish in a bucket!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8656	Posted - 2014.01.27 18:52:00 - [47] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: I'll disagree on Isk payouts, they are not too low. There are variables we do not know that contribute to afk getting more isk for less work. They need to make the formula known for us to give any real feedback. I'll add in information that current Db level, precision level, damage are not given to the player. Most everything else I can agree with. I know it has to do with the value of the stuff your team destroys, but from experience I think your cut of the ISK is based on our WP. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
The-Errorist 495	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:38:00 - [48] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: I'll disagree on Isk payouts, they are not too low. There are variables we do not know that contribute to afk getting more isk for less work. They need to make the formula known for us to give any real feedback. I'll add in information that current Db level, precision level, damage are not given to the player. Most everything else I can agree with. Time Spent in battle is the bulk of it, then there's more ISK from the stuff destroyed in battle, which you get a share of based on your WP. If you make 250k ISK (~2k WP) and die 5 times using a 20k standard suit, then you'll make150k profit. If you'd afk farm that match, you'd make at least 170k profit.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8885	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:31:00 - [49] - Quote Updated a bit Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Awry Barux Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 455	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:37:00 - [50] - Quote No one says it better. Devs, take note! This should be the roadmap for the rest of Dust's life.

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 288	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:38:00 - [51] - Quote do you plan to run for CPM? Cuz you seem to realize the issues here and actually bother to go through them. Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 456	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:49:00 - [52] - Quote You forgot shields fitting requirements in the balance section! Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1224	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:50:00 - [53] - Quote I like all of that. you should be on the cpm
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 68	Posted - 2014.02.19 01:33:00 - [54] - Quote I like AR variants. Everything else is so right. Good thread!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11143	Posted - 2014.02.19 01:36:00 - [55] - Quote Bump for great justice Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 324	Posted - 2014.02.19 02:00:00 - [56] - Quote "[New player experience]" There's really nothing for the NPE to cover except some concepts that people might not be familiar with. Two, atcually, and they're the skill system and the fitting system. That's about as much depth as DUST has right now. FW and PC are advanced areas of game play, true, but they still boil down to point and shoot. It's not like the EVE NPE covers FW or Sov Null. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Traky78 What The French Never.Surrender 534	Posted - 2014.02.19 02:14:00 - [57] - Quote Great thread +1
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2642	Posted - 2014.02.19 02:22:00 - [58] - Quote Truth lives in this thread. GG, Kage. I GÖú Kittens.


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