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Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 127	Posted - 2014.01.26 18:55:00 - [1] - Quote So what **** decided the stats for the plasma cannon. Used 700k sp on an alt a few days ago to get plasma cannon to 5 with some points in rapid reload. Running with an advanced caldari assault suit, tanked with a smg and nades. After several days of running nothing but proto plc on him I have come to the conclusion; This weapon is completely useless. The splash damage will never ohko anyone but the lightest suits (good luck trying to hit them). If you manage to get another round in the chamber then you must be a god because by that time they've just chased you down and melted you in a second using the plethora of assault guns in this game designed for a "low TTK". You can't even ohko most heavy suits (and some tanked assaults) with a direct hit. And if you manage to direct hit someone in close quarters other than a heavy then you are a god and you should birth my children. Okay so maybe you think you can bombard people from a distance. Good luck with that, the arc is so deep and slow that hitting anything at range is a miracle. Even when you do hit them, you're never gonna get another shot off on them for the kill. Useless against vehicles. 1. Direct damage is so low that any vehicle will just shrug it off, like throwing a feather at a wall. 1. By the time you've reloaded they're gone. Same issues that the current swarm launchers see. ^ But! You say! You're supposed to hit them once with the plc then switch to a sidearm to finish them off! Yeah, lol at that. For some reason after you fire the plc it doesn't let you switch to your sidearm for ages, by that time you're already dead. For the love of peanut butter remove this noobtrap from the game. Or at least make it work properly because right now seeing someone with a plc is like seeing a **** person wearing a helmet at the mall. If you disagree with me then you are the mom holding the ****** kids hand.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 476	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:03:00 - [2] - Quote I do fine with it, not great but fine. In combination with AV nades, RE's or prox mines it can do wonders. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3734	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:13:00 - [3] - Quote I wouldn't use it with the current state of rifles, but they should be good scout weapons next build. I've always seen them as more anti-heavy than anti-vehicle. I am your scan error.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 687	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:15:00 - [4] - Quote There are hitdetections issues with the PLC, the lower TTK didn't do the PLC any good. Join Cannon fever channel and see how those players use it. Just today popped a full health heavy that was camping a doorway to the objective, so you can kill heavies.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3619	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:16:00 - [5] - Quote The Plasma Cannon is only good against low skill players that don't attempt to move, Strafe or jump. Anybody worth his salt will be hard to knock off. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3962	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:18:00 - [6] - Quote The Plasma Cannon is pretty good as an AI weapon, but it requires a direct hit for OHKs. The splash is a good finisher though. Here is my usual Plasma Cannon fit: Assault M/1 Series Plasma Cannon MZ209 Assault SMG 1x Complex Damage Mod 2x Enhanced Shield Extenders 1x F/45 Remote Explosive 2x Basic Reactive Plates. It seems to do exceptionally well against Infantry, but it requires immense amounts of skill. Keep in mind that the weapon is still an AV weapon, so it shouldn't be a primary or go-to choice against infantry. As for it's AV purposes, It works great when you want to cut down a tank's shields before blowing your REs. It completely fails elsewhere and is near useless against even the most in-experienced dropship pilots. Personally, I believe that the PLC's direct damage should be modeled like this: STD: 1320HP ADV: 1650HP PRO: 1980HP The splash damage shouldn't be increased to much. It should reward the people who are skilled enough to get a direct hit, but punish those who aren't skilled enough to land their shots properly. Along with this, if the splash damage alone was enough to guarantee a kill, then we would easily see them being used as "rocket-propelled shotguns" (similar to how the dumbfire Swarm Launchers were being used as). Also, If you want a good suit for Plasma Cannons, I believe that the Gallente Assault suit has a fitting reduction bonus to Hybrid Weapons, which would be heaven when you use the fitting optimization skill. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons To create a vehicle free environment. There can only be one!
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 128	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:23:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Plasma Cannon is pretty good as an AI weapon, but it requires a direct hit for OHKs. The splash is a good finisher though. Here is my usual Plasma Cannon fit: Assault M/1 Series Plasma Cannon MZ209 Assault SMG 1x Complex Damage Mod 2x Enhanced Shield Extenders 1x F/45 Remote Explosive 2x Basic Reactive Plates. It seems to do exceptionally well against Infantry, but it requires immense amounts of skill. Keep in mind that the weapon is still an AV weapon, so it shouldn't be a primary or go-to choice against infantry. As for it's AV purposes, It works great when you want to cut down a tank's shields before blowing your REs. It completely fails elsewhere and is near useless against even the most in-experienced dropship pilots. Personally, I believe that the PLC's direct damage should be modeled like this: STD: 1320HP ADV: 1650HP PRO: 1980HP The splash damage shouldn't be increased to much. It should reward the people who are skilled enough to get a direct hit, but punish those who aren't skilled enough to land their shots properly. Along with this, if the splash damage alone was enough to guarantee a kill, then we would easily see them being used as "rocket-propelled shotguns" (similar to how the dumbfire Swarm Launchers were being used as). Also, If you want a good suit for Plasma Cannons, I believe that the Gallente Assault suit has a fitting reduction bonus to Hybrid Weapons, which would be heaven when you use the fitting optimization skill. This is a cool idea. I agree, the splash damage is fine. But if its to be a primarily AV weapon its direct hit damage should get a massive bump. I also thank that the projectile should be a lot faster than it is now. Hitting anything at range is so dam hard.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 308	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:25:00 - [8] - Quote PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc and needs to do more dmg vs vehicles. would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 340	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:25:00 - [9] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: So what **** decided the stats for the plasma cannon. Used 700k sp on an alt a few days ago to get plasma cannon to 5 with some points in rapid reload. Running with an advanced caldari assault suit, tanked with a smg and nades. After several days of running nothing but proto plc on him I have come to the conclusion; This weapon is completely useless. The splash damage will never ohko anyone but the lightest suits (good luck trying to hit them). If you manage to get another round in the chamber then you must be a god because by that time they've just chased you down and melted you in a second using the plethora of assault guns in this game designed for a "low TTK". You can't even ohko most heavy suits (and some tanked assaults) with a direct hit. And if you manage to direct hit someone in close quarters other than a heavy then you are a god and you should birth my children. Okay so maybe you think you can bombard people from a distance. Good luck with that, the arc is so deep and slow that hitting anything at range is a miracle. Even when you do hit them, you're never gonna get another shot off on them for the kill. Useless against vehicles. 1. Direct damage is so low that any vehicle will just shrug it off, like throwing a feather at a wall. 2. By the time you've reloaded they're gone. Same issues that the current swarm launchers see. ^ But! You say! You're supposed to hit them once with the plc then switch to a sidearm to finish them off! Yeah, lol at that. For some reason after you fire the plc it doesn't let you switch to your sidearm for ages, by that time you're already dead. For the love of peanut butter remove this noobtrap from the game. Or at least make it work properly because right now seeing someone with a plc is like seeing a **** person wearing a helmet at the mall. If you disagree with me then you are the mom holding the **** kids hand. Splash damage never was supposed to OHK ennemies. Great weapon to finish ennemies or just One shot a heavy. (Pretty Easy.) It needs to be played at STD level with a ADV/PRO secondary weapon. Against slow ennemies this weapon is just PERFECT. Don't engage with it, Engage with your secondary Weapon. THEN if you didn't kill the ennemy swap to plasma cannon and THEN shoot him : You direct hit : It die. You fail your direct. The splash will finish it. You fail your splash : You suck go play Noob Rifle with lot of Aim Assist or just stop attacking ennemies at more than 40 meters with a close range weapon. (Shotgun plasma cannon etcetc....) This weapon just need more Direct hit Damage to be useful against vehicules. And more diffrence between STD/ADV and PRO like : STD : One Ammo / Base damage. ADV : 2 Ammo per mag / +200 damage PRO : 3 per mag /+200 damage No need for more splash damage or anything else. (Maybe a Scope.) What it should be :** STD : 1400 Direct hit damage. Same splash than now. 1 Per Mag. Same everything. ADV : 1400 Direct hit damage. Same splash than now. 2 per Mag. Same everything. PRO : 1600 Direct hit damage. Same splash than Now. 3 per Mag. Same everything.
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 234	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:28:00 - [10] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. This. should OHK most LAVs.

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 341	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:43:00 - [11] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. This. should OHK most LAVs. No. But should have more ammo per mag.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 136	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:55:00 - [12] - Quote Have to get the projectiles to stop ghosting through targets first.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2251	Posted - 2014.01.26 20:01:00 - [13] - Quote If the projectiles didn't travel at the speed of smell and light up the sky for all within 300m to see, it might be a viable slayer weapon with some slight buffs. The reload time does not equate with its possible DPS. The HMG, which has a ridiculously long reload also, can out DPS just about anything else when used properly - which is a fair trade-off (although the HMG reload should be lowered by 25%, but that's a different thread...) It should have a huge direct hit bonus and a large splash with light damage. Buff the **** out of projectile speed and give it a 2 shot clip. Now you have a comparable, niche weapon. Natalie Portman.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3184	Posted - 2014.01.26 20:04:00 - [14] - Quote I run dual plasma cannons on my commando..... Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 479	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. This. should OHK most LAVs. It's already enough to take out the driver of an LAV and DS door gunners. A reload animation that doesn't block the view would be nice. The arc is great, you can stand behind a hill or just out of sight on a ledge and shoot over with out exposing yourself other then to find targets. Faster projectile wouldn't hurt, a forgegun that I assume requires much more energy can fire 3-4 shots before I can fire a second round. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 990	Posted - 2014.01.26 22:07:00 - [16] - Quote The Plasma Cannon is an AV weapon tho... "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 101	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:30:00 - [17] - Quote I've been using the PC for a few days now and it's not too terrible at what it does but could still use a bit of a buff. It's like a cross between a mass driver and a forge gun with both of the drawbacks of each. It's slow to fire, has a wonky arc, a slow projectile, and low ammo. If there's anything I'd probably change on it I'd up the reload by just a LITTLE little bit, maybe drop 0.5secs off or so. That being said there's nothing quite as satisfying as blasting a proto-stomper in the face with my PC.
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 39	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:48:00 - [18] - Quote I've had mixed, but pretty positive results with the plasma cannon. I only run it on a standard Minmatar logistics suit and it provides results. It shines more as a support weapon to help out concentrated fire on a specific tank, or vehicle. The satisfaction of getting a direct hit kill will never diminish. My "Max AV" suit consists of the following -Standard Min. Logi (lvl 3 logi skill) - Plasma Cannon - Remote & Proximity explosives - Nanohive - Packed Lai Dai's Most damage is done with my Lai Dai's, I set traps with the RE's and the Plasma Cannon is my last resort / final shot (usually on fleeing vehicles.) It's always nice to hit that sniper 240 M or so that is perched on a skyscraper / mushroom with just the right angle and him being able to see the fiery blob approaching him and seeing the +50 Kill come up on your screen. CEO of Horizons' Edge mercenary division *My soul, your beats!*
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12652	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:21:00 - [19] - Quote Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 689	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:41:00 - [20] - Quote Buffing area of splash would be nice, if done properly. Also, projectile speed should be increased. I hate it how some people can just sidestep these things with extreme ease.

demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 374	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:43:00 - [21] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: So what **** decided the stats for the plasma cannon. Used 700k sp on an alt a few days ago to get plasma cannon to 5 with some points in rapid reload. Running with an advanced caldari assault suit, tanked with a smg and nades. After several days of running nothing but proto plc on him I have come to the conclusion; This weapon is completely useless. The splash damage will never ohko anyone but the lightest suits (good luck trying to hit them). If you manage to get another round in the chamber then you must be a god because by that time they've just chased you down and melted you in a second using the plethora of assault guns in this game designed for a "low TTK". You can't even ohko most heavy suits (and some tanked assaults) with a direct hit. And if you manage to direct hit someone in close quarters other than a heavy then you are a god and you should birth my children. Okay so maybe you think you can bombard people from a distance. Good luck with that, the arc is so deep and slow that hitting anything at range is a miracle. Even when you do hit them, you're never gonna get another shot off on them for the kill. Useless against vehicles. 1. Direct damage is so low that any vehicle will just shrug it off, like throwing a feather at a wall. 2. By the time you've reloaded they're gone. Same issues that the current swarm launchers see. ^ But! You say! You're supposed to hit them once with the plc then switch to a sidearm to finish them off! Yeah, lol at that. For some reason after you fire the plc it doesn't let you switch to your sidearm for ages, by that time you're already dead. For the love of peanut butter remove this noobtrap from the game. Or at least make it work properly because right now seeing someone with a plc is like seeing a **** person wearing a helmet at the mall. If you disagree with me then you are the mom holding the ****** kids hand. youre doing it wrong, gall scout as much profile damp as possible, throw plasma on
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4154	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:45:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Also, If you want a good suit for Plasma Cannons, I believe that the Gallente Assault suit has a fitting reduction bonus to Hybrid Weapons, which would be heaven when you use the fitting optimization skill. Will be a thing of the past once 1.8 comes :(
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:58:00 - [23] - Quote Yeah I am deeply speced into PLC. It can truly do ok if you are in a squad. It's not a 'gun for KDR' weapon but it's fun to use and can be decent in trench warfare games where two teams are about equal and you have a chance to bombard from a distance. It does however, need several fixes to make it useful - it's ridden with glitched: the most common one where you shoot and go through a shot animation but dont produce a shot that 's capable of doing damage. This one is similar in mechanic to the scout 'crawl' glitch where you can't sprint if you execute several actions in rapid succession (for example hitting sprint right after firing). So, gotta def get rid of this 'fantom shot' glitch, it's truly weapon breaking. Another glitch is that a shot can sometimes travel THROUGH a target (as far as I can tell) - again a truly weapon breaking glitch. Another problem is how slow the projectile travels. It should not be an insta hit but it has to go 2x faster (2 x would be a good start that can later be titrated). Hell, it would be ok if the shot decelerated - started out fast and slowed down while traveling farther. As it stands you shot can be outstraffed by an oponent 10-25 meters from you AFTER the shot has already been fired. If you can't the speed of projectile travel, make the weapon easy and fast to reload. Or make it autoreload: so that you can unequip it (e.g. by starting a sprint) and when you switch back to it (as long as you give it enough time) it should be reloaded - this would enable at least a scout more tactical freedom: to shoot, run into cover and again jump out to take another shot w/o exposing yourself while reloading. Lastly damage has to be delivered in a reasonable fashion - if you land a shot on someone's shoes full alpha damage should be applied (not the case currently). I really love PLC and I don't want them to be taken out of the game or be dumbed down into a noobtube but it does require some careful rework, fixing glitches first of course. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 05:59:00 - [24] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: So what **** decided the stats for the plasma cannon. Used 700k sp on an alt a few days ago to get plasma cannon to 5 with some points in rapid reload. Running with an advanced caldari assault suit, tanked with a smg and nades. After several days of running nothing but proto plc on him I have come to the conclusion; This weapon is completely useless. The splash damage will never ohko anyone but the lightest suits (good luck trying to hit them). If you manage to get another round in the chamber then you must be a god because by that time they've just chased you down and melted you in a second using the plethora of assault guns in this game designed for a "low TTK". You can't even ohko most heavy suits (and some tanked assaults) with a direct hit. And if you manage to direct hit someone in close quarters other than a heavy then you are a god and you should birth my children. Okay so maybe you think you can bombard people from a distance. Good luck with that, the arc is so deep and slow that hitting anything at range is a miracle. Even when you do hit them, you're never gonna get another shot off on them for the kill. Useless against vehicles. 1. Direct damage is so low that any vehicle will just shrug it off, like throwing a feather at a wall. 2. By the time you've reloaded they're gone. Same issues that the current swarm launchers see. ^ But! You say! You're supposed to hit them once with the plc then switch to a sidearm to finish them off! Yeah, lol at that. For some reason after you fire the plc it doesn't let you switch to your sidearm for ages, by that time you're already dead. For the love of peanut butter remove this noobtrap from the game. Or at least make it work properly because right now seeing someone with a plc is like seeing a **** person wearing a helmet at the mall. If you disagree with me then you are the mom holding the ****** kids hand. youre doing it wrong, gall scout as much profile damp as possible, throw plasma on lol and it still won't work. What happens is you get a jump on someone - line up a shot but by the time your fireball reaches them they RANDOMLY take half a step in any direction and you won't score a hit on them. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 235	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:00:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. one of two possibilities 1) CPM is trolling, in which case you are a horrible community representative. 2) You are pants on head ******, and should never be involved in any type of balancing discussion ever. My isk is on #2. Reason being is that you are part of the CPM who oversaw the flaylock nerf, the commando introduction, the OP as hell combat rifle and rail rifle, and the current tank/AV balance. There has been only one or two successful balancing actions done by CCP (HMG being one of them) and I am sure you guys have input on the balancing process. TLDR: IWS = pants on head ******.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:01:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. Ahuh... Video next time please, mister CPM. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:04:00 - [27] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Prius Vecht wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. This. should OHK most LAVs. It's already enough to take out the driver of an LAV and DS door gunners. A reload animation that doesn't block the view would be nice. The arc is great, you can stand behind a hill or just out of sight on a ledge and shoot over with out exposing yourself other then to find targets. Faster projectile wouldn't hurt, a forgegun that I assume requires much more energy can fire 3-4 shots before I can fire a second round. I can see you dubbed with PLC but not running it main. Shooting LAVs of DS's is near impossible unless they are AFK. They can easily see your fireball and simply move out of the way. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Galthur Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 289	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:05:00 - [28] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I wouldn't use it with the current state of rifles, but they should be good scout weapons next build. I've always seen them as more anti-heavy than anti-vehicle. Yes a 1100 damage shot on a 2000 health heavy will do wounders (if the heavy doesn't dodge the shot) Get recruits for me, receive millions of ISK. Buying BPO Codes. [Forum Level: 8] [Scamming Level: 3]
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:07:00 - [29] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I run dual plasma cannons on my commando..... No! But that's OP! CCP should not allow that combo. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12657	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:24:00 - [30] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. Ahuh... Video next time please, mister CPM. Ask CCP Saberwing I was in squad with him when this happened. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 865	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:30:00 - [31] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. Very much agree with you. Splash should not increase. Definitely not in radius. Ideally what I would like to see damage wise if nothing else gets fixed in PLC is 1x5 damage against vehicles and maybe deliver damage to infantry in 0.5 m radius but full alpha damage. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Galthur Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 289	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:38:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. Did the HAV's/Infantry shield tankers that didn't move. I've got 11 kills in a match with the Laser Rifle, should that not be buffed? Get recruits for me, receive millions of ISK. Buying BPO Codes. [Forum Level: 8] [Scamming Level: 3]
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4155	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:46:00 - [33] - Quote I once ran at a enemy tank with a PLC shooting at it. He humiliated me, not by killing me but looking at me, ignoring me and then killing my squad around me.... I feel like a wet slice of bologna
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1472	Posted - 2014.01.27 06:56:00 - [34] - Quote Why use a PLC when you can use a FG? Fish in a bucket!
Munin-Frey Fish Spotters Inc. 105	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:43:00 - [35] - Quote The PLC is absolute crap and you made a big mistake taking it to level 5. Hopefully we will get a respec and you will get your points back. To prove this point with absolute certainty you should switch to the forge gun after a week of PLC.... The forge gun will be such a relief to shoot... It will project damage so much better, better rate of fire, better aiming, more damage, easier to OHK, and easier to switch to your sidearm.... And all of that with a militia forge gun. You got punked by CCP. Closed Beta Veteran
pink FLUFF Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 67	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:53:00 - [36] - Quote I have plasma cannon prof to V - 3x damage mods 1700 direct - 460 ish splash If ccp does anything to this weapon it will be OP it sucks because no one uses it. I like it Give it a homing ability!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 457	Posted - 2014.01.27 07:54:00 - [37] - Quote I do well with the Plasma, my BOOM!! fit, Plasma FlayLock Pistol Locus Nades RMEs 2 armor & shields That's my anti personnel here's my Anti-No skill fit Crowd Control AKA MD Flay or adv. smg AV nades RMEs The nearest nanochive or SD 2 armor & shields Freelance Psycho I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 344	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:03:00 - [38] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. ur just better than everyone else. I agree with u often but right now u sound as stupid as the guy typing "the laser rifle is OP, nerf plz!" make it fire in a straight line, buff the direct dmg as right now u cant even use it vs LAVs. along with prox explosives one of the most useless weapons in the game.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1091	Posted - 2014.01.27 08:32:00 - [39] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. Ahuh... Video next time please, mister CPM. Ask CCP Saberwing I was in squad with him when this happened. I made 15 kill in a match with elbow punches in my stamina heavy fun fit like 1 month ago, this does not mean it is viable or good just enemies were ********. and as far as I know, most of the PLC bugs were still not fixed (and I am pretty sure the devs are aware of them)
Denchlad 7 Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 67	Posted - 2014.01.27 11:21:00 - [40] - Quote Though the PC is garbage I still love it. Actually killing something with it is WAY more satisfying to me than any other gun bar the Flaylock, which is my sidearm on my fit. Nothing more satisfying than starting on a Sica with the Allotek PC and finishing it off with a Core Flaylock. If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 486	Posted - 2014.01.28 00:34:00 - [41] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Prius Vecht wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: PLC is horrible. needs to lose the firing arc (hit detection isnt good enough) and needs to have higher dmg (vs vehicles) would like to see the splash dmg be nil--Dust cant afford to go through another forge gun situation. u kids always trying to turn everything into a noob tube. This. should OHK most LAVs. It's already enough to take out the driver of an LAV and DS door gunners. A reload animation that doesn't block the view would be nice. The arc is great, you can stand behind a hill or just out of sight on a ledge and shoot over with out exposing yourself other then to find targets. Faster projectile wouldn't hurt, a forgegun that I assume requires much more energy can fire 3-4 shots before I can fire a second round. I can see you dubbed with PLC but not running it main. Shooting LAVs of DS's is near impossible unless they are AFK. They can easily see your fireball and simply move out of the way. Ha! Apparently your doing it wrong. Not saying I can hit them every time but I've done both multiple times. DS's hover, if there every going to let their gunners get any fire on target, often they hover a lot lower then they need to. That's a fairly easy shot all in all. LAV's on the move are a much luck then skill, a lot easier when they come right at you thinking easy roadkill. And yes I generally run it as my main on my Sever suit, I do I have a gal adv logi suit with a SMG but it's just more fun plink somebody off with the PLC. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Virtual Riot The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 136	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:06:00 - [42] - Quote Lol thought this thread was done for Anyways yeah I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. Less firing arc would be cool, seems like a general consensus. Honestly dont think it needs more splash, streamline it into a bit more of an AV weapon. As for Mr. CPM Try harder? Come on, what are you, 5? LOL
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4053	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:10:00 - [43] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Atiim wrote: Also, If you want a good suit for Plasma Cannons, I believe that the Gallente Assault suit has a fitting reduction bonus to Hybrid Weapons, which would be heaven when you use the fitting optimization skill. Will be a thing of the past once 1.8 comes :( Well that sucks. I have a friend in my corp named Ruunt Scarculo who has a Gal Assault fit that pretty much requires him to have the bonus if he wants to use his Duvolle. *PEANUT BUTTER COOKIE MASTER COOKIE* So when are we gonna get those Matari Vehicles? Please don't be SoonGäó
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 209	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:14:00 - [44] - Quote I think the buff should be as follows: Reduce splash dmg Increase the clip size up to 3-4 shots Increase bullet velocity so it doesnt drop so soon I think these changes will emphasize its role as an AV weapon
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4053	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:29:00 - [45] - Quote I've actually seen IWS running a KLA on a Logistics G-1 suit before. When I saw him fighting a tank, I went to go grab my Swarm but I ended up getting sniped >.< I didn't see him kill the tanks, but his name did pop up on the kill feed after I died. (Left Side) As for his "Try Harder" comment. He's obviously trolling. *PEANUT BUTTER COOKIE MASTER COOKIE* So when are we gonna get those Matari Vehicles? Please don't be SoonGäó
Toby Flenderson research lab 218	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:35:00 - [46] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. I use it with a gallogi as well. It really is kind of amazing what you can do with it if you play smart/well. Once I got prof 4 I started running STD and it still OHK man people with splash. I'm assuming they're wounded a lot of the times but its still good as is IMO. I'm not looking forward to the day when it becomes FOTM because people ask for super buffs
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4174	Posted - 2014.01.28 04:37:00 - [47] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Atiim wrote: Also, If you want a good suit for Plasma Cannons, I believe that the Gallente Assault suit has a fitting reduction bonus to Hybrid Weapons, which would be heaven when you use the fitting optimization skill. Will be a thing of the past once 1.8 comes :( Well that sucks. I have a friend in my corp named Ruunt Scarculo who has a Gal Assault fit that pretty much requires him to have the bonus if he wants to use his Duvolle. Yes it does. I don't know why Our suits can't just have two distinct bonus instead of having one blanket bonus and one racial bonus. To me having one blanket bonus to benefit all suits actually seems like it would be harder than to just have two racial bonus's for individual suits but I do know how much CCP hates logic at time .
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 870	Posted - 2014.01.29 05:44:00 - [48] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Killed 4 havs and 6 foot mobiles in a single match with an advanced PLC and flux grenade. To top it all off Basic Gallente Logistics Suit, thus it was the only lethal weapon I had. Try harder. Ahuh... Video next time please, mister CPM. Ask CCP Saberwing I was in squad with him when this happened. Sure, please have your friend CCP Saberwing post in this thread that would add some credibility. On a serious note, this statement exposes you and CCP to all sorts of criticism, I know you can see that yourself. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 870	Posted - 2014.01.29 05:49:00 - [49] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: Lol thought this thread was done for Anyways yeah I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. Less firing arc would be cool, seems like a general consensus. Honestly dont think it needs more splash, streamline it into a bit more of an AV weapon. As for Mr. CPM Try harder? Come on, what are you, 5? LOL I like the arc. It's one of those thing you have to master to keep the weapon challenging. The arc really has nothing to do with why PLC is broken imo. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 980	Posted - 2014.01.29 06:16:00 - [50] - Quote it's a frustrated weapon to use, but I use it sometimes with my scout. It feels great to pop people with it (The expolsion sound is god.) . This weapon is so wrong that it takes skill to kill other people.



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