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Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 108	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:06:00 - [1] - Quote Need completely reworked. They should pay more and should only pay by the amount of WP you earned in the match. This over time payout is not working, it makes it to where if you get put in the middle of a battle there's no point in playing because regardless if you throw down 2000 wp you're still not going to make much ISK. Not only that but I run logi and logi suits are the most expensive to put together. If I die once in a proto suit I've lost money for the match. My ADV suit run the way I like it, allows me to die three times in a pub match and after that I lose money. The rich stay rich, holding their properties by attacking themselves with fake corps and the poor keep suffering.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2147	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:09:00 - [2] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: If I die once in a proto suit I've lost money for the match. That's the way it was designed it is not a problem it is a feature. Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1093	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:12:00 - [3] - Quote This might sound harsh, but just don't take so many risks in your expensive suits. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 265	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:25:00 - [4] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Need completely reworked. They should pay more and should only pay by the amount of WP you earned in the match. This over time payout is not working, it makes it to where if you get put in the middle of a battle there's no point in playing because regardless if you throw down 2000 wp you're still not going to make much ISK. Not only that but I run logi and logi suits are the most expensive to put together. If I die once in a proto suit I've lost money for the match. My ADV suit run the way I like it, allows me to die three times in a pub match and after that I lose money. The rich stay rich, holding their properties by attacking themselves with fake corps and the poor keep suffering. Your logi may cost more it you also pull in 2 to 3x the sp I do normally. And I can die 5x in my advance 10x in my basic. Grant it, I built them with profit in mind, Proto Stompers Information Tap (x°x) tap
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5500	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:27:00 - [5] - Quote ... Are you complaining that you can't afford to run proto every match? Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1464	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:36:00 - [6] - Quote BPOs 4 lyfe! Yes, you die a little more often with Standard gear, but you rack up bank quickly. Also, its okay to be a d*ck. Pub matches don't matter. You don't have to try and win every time. If things aren't going your way, kick back and skate through the match. Fish in a bucket!
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 108	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:36:00 - [7] - Quote Not complaining about being able to run proto every match, just saying I should be able to atleast lose one and still make a profit. I'm more complaining about the fact that I can barely afford to run advanced gear. Currently I'm making just over 200K with a real good match. With my adv suits being 50-70k I can lose 3-4 then I'm losing money. Sorry but I don't think that's right. Assaults and scouts have it a little easier, both my adv scout and adv assault run at 30-40k.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1681	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:43:00 - [8] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Not complaining about being able to run proto every match, just saying I should be able to atleast lose one and still make a profit. I'm more complaining about the fact that I can barely afford to run advanced gear. Currently I'm making just over 200K with a real good match. With my adv suits being 50-70k I can lose 3-4 then I'm losing money. Sorry but I don't think that's right. Assaults and scouts have it a little easier, both my adv scout and adv assault run at 30-40k. That is right. Dust is not about unlocking the best gear and then being able to use it all the time. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5503	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:46:00 - [9] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Not complaining about being able to run proto every match, just saying I should be able to atleast lose one and still make a profit. I'm more complaining about the fact that I can barely afford to run advanced gear. Currently I'm making just over 200K with a real good match. With my adv suits being 50-70k I can lose 3-4 then I'm losing money. Sorry but I don't think that's right. Assaults and scouts have it a little easier, both my adv scout and adv assault run at 30-40k. It actually sounds like it's working as intended. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 108	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:56:00 - [10] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Not complaining about being able to run proto every match, just saying I should be able to atleast lose one and still make a profit. I'm more complaining about the fact that I can barely afford to run advanced gear. Currently I'm making just over 200K with a real good match. With my adv suits being 50-70k I can lose 3-4 then I'm losing money. Sorry but I don't think that's right. Assaults and scouts have it a little easier, both my adv scout and adv assault run at 30-40k. That is right. Dust is not about unlocking the best gear and then being able to use it all the time. Yeah being adv gear is the best, you shouldn't be able to run more than 3 suits of it per game. And no it's not working as intended until they fix corps locking districts and running protos all day with no consequences.

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3179	Posted - 2014.01.26 17:56:00 - [11] - Quote Ummmm my proto commando costs 200k isk...,and has less than half the slots of your proto logi, so quit your whining....you have it easy Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2248	Posted - 2014.01.26 18:21:00 - [12] - Quote Payouts are ****. The bottom 4 in any pub match shouldn't make more than an obligatory 50,000 ISK. The payouts should be more reflective of what you did in battle, not how long you were there. ISK destroyed should be a greater factor in determining how much ISK is paid and each team members' cut. If I destroy a Proto suit I should get 75% of that suit's value with the other 25% being split among the other 15 teammates. As it is, I can run through 30 mercs and still only get paid 160,000 ISK for my position atop the Killboard. The system is **** up. I know it's easier for you tards to dissect his fitting and how he shouldn't ever die, but the fact is that blueberries happen and are overcompensated for their lackluster efforts while real players go broke putting them on the winner's side. Most of the ones bitching about the use of Proto fittings are the same useless fuckwads I have to put on my back and drag through what would've been a decent match if they had done anything to advance a positive outcome. Natalie Portman.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 855	Posted - 2014.01.26 18:26:00 - [13] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Not complaining about being able to run proto every match, just saying I should be able to atleast lose one and still make a profit. I'm more complaining about the fact that I can barely afford to run advanced gear. Currently I'm making just over 200K with a real good match. With my adv suits being 50-70k I can lose 3-4 then I'm losing money. Sorry but I don't think that's right. Assaults and scouts have it a little easier, both my adv scout and adv assault run at 30-40k. Lol' scouts don't have it easier. My adv scout is 80k ISK, while my proto is 140k ISK. Yet both die to very little damage. At least you logi is surivable Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 512	Posted - 2014.01.26 18:29:00 - [14] - Quote Mike Ox Bigger wrote: Need completely reworked. They should pay more and should only pay by the amount of WP you earned in the match. This over time payout is not working, it makes it to where if you get put in the middle of a battle there's no point in playing because regardless if you throw down 2000 wp you're still not going to make much ISK. Not only that but I run logi and logi suits are the most expensive to put together. If I die once in a proto suit I've lost money for the match. My ADV suit run the way I like it, allows me to die three times in a pub match and after that I lose money. The rich stay rich, holding their properties by attacking themselves with fake corps and the poor keep suffering. Proto suit. According to CCP those are the LOOSE IT TO USE IT suits aka you are SUPPOSED to loose money running proto. My standard suits. I can die 20+ times a match and still make money. I got used to the basics instead of moving "up" on the expenses frontier. Also Money farming would be so easy for large corps if WP were the trigger.... Just look at this! http://youtu.be/qwpGn2J-JAA Every player has... 10,000 to 30,000 WP Imagine how much money they'd have farmed up under your scheme... If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 112	Posted - 2014.01.26 19:01:00 - [15] - Quote If they're producing WPs then they should get paid our more. The lowest guy on the scoreboard gets paid like 50K less than me if he's there all match. And again, nobody has said ** about what I mentioned in the original post. Joining a match midway through is almost pointless as you know you're not going to make much ISK. The time in battle for ISK ** needs to go.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2120	Posted - 2014.01.26 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote If I knife down proto suits in an M-1 or M/1 I expect to get paid a lot more than I am getting. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla


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