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Texs Red
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:00:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:At STD level, the Ion pistol charge shot does 350 damage. The damage on a Thales Sniper Rifle is 355. The damage on a "Charge" Sniper Rifle is 322 or so. Both of those are PRO level, and the Ion PRO has a single shot dmg of 385, higher than both.
With 3 complex dmg mods and prof 5, the charge shot becomes 560 dmg, and a Gallente commando with 1 complex dmg mod would do 535 dmg with it. If it has a "standard" headshot bonus (like the AR, shotgun, etc.) that's 1.5x. That's 840 damage in the former case, and 803 in the latter. That's enough to 1-shot almost any suit in the game.
The commando bonus doesn't apply, that is only light weapons not sidearms. On top of that you now have a slow suit whose engagement range is 20 meters and each shot takes a full second and a half. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1697
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:04:00 -
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CCP long range balance is like going against a 50 caliber anti-armor sniper rifle with a nerf pistol.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Beamer 325
Hellstorm Incorporation
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:08:00 -
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The game is completly broken. Just keeps getting worse. Soon you wont have to worry about the ion. |
Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
221
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Another classic example of short range weapons being awful. Seriously, why does CCP not understand that you can't give weapons a longer range AND better damage than others? The BIackfish wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:I wouldn't comment on any of the new weapons until we know what their respective operation skill bonuses are going to be at this point were speculating with half the equation. Just imagine if the bonus was a RoF bonus, or a range bonus or both. Agree why we complaining about a pistol that has not come out or no footage of it in action, so i say just wait till it comes out and see how it does before we make a thing about it We have the stats. From the stats it is ridiculously obvious that the Ion Pistol is bad.
No, we don't. We have some stats. Stats don't say whether or not it could be a pocket shotgun that fires 2-3 rounds per trigger pull, not so crappy now is it? |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
516
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:28:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:bolt pistol ftw belong to which race?
Caldari...
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:00:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:At STD level, the Ion pistol charge shot does 350 damage. The damage on a Thales Sniper Rifle is 355. The damage on a "Charge" Sniper Rifle is 322 or so. Both of those are PRO level, and the Ion PRO has a single shot dmg of 385, higher than both.
With 3 complex dmg mods and prof 5, the charge shot becomes 560 dmg, and a Gallente commando with 1 complex dmg mod would do 535 dmg with it. If it has a "standard" headshot bonus (like the AR, shotgun, etc.) that's 1.5x. That's 840 damage in the former case, and 803 in the latter. That's enough to 1-shot almost any suit in the game. The commando bonus doesn't apply, that is only light weapons not sidearms. On top of that you now have a slow suit whose engagement range is 20 meters and each shot takes a full second and a half.
Hmm. True, The 3-complex mod setup would still work though. Working around the charge (on a Scrambler/Charge Sniper) is quite workable though. Especially for that kind of damage.
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