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Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:06:00 - [1] - Quote Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 464	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:09:00 - [2] - Quote How long have you played DUST for? Electronic Warfare GOD in the making Proud Minmatar
Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:12:00 - [3] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 291	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:18:00 - [4] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Simply... you shouldn't be getting stomped anymore at that Dust age. Get some friends.
Sentient Archon 1427	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:20:00 - [5] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Simply... you shouldn't be getting stomped anymore at that Dust age. Get some friends. I'm not getting stomped more than my team is the one stomping. The problem is that neither is fun or even interesting at all. And the problem lies in the very fundamental game designs.
Sentient Archon 1427	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:30:00 - [7] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: my team is the one stomping. The problem is that neither is fun or even interesting at all. And the problem lies in the very fundamental game designs. QFT. The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 579	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote Ambush main stomping problem other than matchmaking.... Spawn system is R3TARDED! There are no smart spawns. Enemy team gets to your spawn location? Well Gg your ****. You will keep spawning there for another 2-3 minutes before game realizes that your team just got spawn farmed for 20-30 clones GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4** \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 464	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:35:00 - [9] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the ***** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. Electronic Warfare GOD in the making Proud Minmatar
Sentient Archon 1428	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:52:00 - [10] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the ***** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. And yet a corp that has a killer like you doesnt own a single district even in LOLPFC. Keep thinking that tiny pecker of yours is a philosopher's stone. The only troll to successfully troll CCP.

Government CheeseBurger Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 689	Posted - 2014.01.24 20:57:00 - [11] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Zombie Knife Corporation Expert Intervention [EXPIV] Date of Birth 2013-08-05 15:46 Race / Bloodline N/A K/D Ratio Unknown Employment History [-] Close History Expert Intervention 2013-08-05 15:46 - Now (0y 172d) 6 months and only with NPC Full Blown Rep Tool with Romantic Fist attachment Wife Support.
Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:06:00 - [12] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Zombie Knife Corporation Expert Intervention [EXPIV] Date of Birth 2013-08-05 15:46 Race / Bloodline N/A K/D Ratio Unknown Employment History [-] Close History Expert Intervention 2013-08-05 15:46 - Now (0y 172d) 6 months and only with NPC This is an alt, obviously. I have 22+mil SP. More than 23k kills. I could go proto all day. But it is not fun.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 331	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Zombie Knife Corporation Expert Intervention [EXPIV] Date of Birth 2013-08-05 15:46 Race / Bloodline N/A K/D Ratio Unknown Employment History [-] Close History Expert Intervention 2013-08-05 15:46 - Now (0y 172d) 6 months and only with NPC This is an alt, obviously. I have 22+mil SP. More than 23k kills. I could go proto all day. But it is not fun. Who's your main?
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 228	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:12:00 - [14] - Quote Q Sync Fail Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:14:00 - [15] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. All I can say is, that I am lucky that I have started playing this game way back when there were not that many people in full proto gear and nearly indestructible tanks. If I was starting to play this game today I would certainly not play for more than a few days. Hell, even getting shot by dumb-fire Swarm Launchers in closed beta was more fun than what this game is today.
Zombie Knife Expert Intervention Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:17:00 - [16] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Q Sync Fail And this proves what exactly? A few days ago we were up against a que synced team of 14 people of FACTION WARFARE ARMY. We beat them easily. Bad players do not become better when they are many.
Onesimus Tarsus 951	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:18:00 - [17] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. But, it would actually establish them. Free, on-demand Respecs. Because it doesn't matter and no one should care. Matchmaking by KDR proximity. :)
Rusty Shallows 890	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:38:00 - [18] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. But, it would actually establish them. The O.P. is simply stating the obvious. Some people only use an ALT for giving likes. Technically we should all be using ALTs for posting and keeping the Mains hidden. I chuckled at the Nuclear Option. CCP wasn't receptive to Meta Level Game option I first proposed in Feedback Forum when matchmaking was becoming a big issue. So they probably won't do this. At best cross your fingers for Teiricide (the Architectural Game Design one) and see if we can start having some Good Fights instead of the current trends. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:38:00 - [19] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Simply... you shouldn't be getting stomped anymore at that Dust age. Get some friends. Please read the post, it isn't fun no matter which side of the stomping you are on. The matchmaking hurts the game and those who like stomping new players continue to treat every post pointing this out as something that can be dismissed with "get gud".
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:41:00 - [20] - Quote Marad''er wrote: Ambush main stomping problem other than matchmaking.... Spawn system is R3TARDED! There are no smart spawns. Enemy team gets to your spawn location? Well Gg your ******. You will keep spawning there for another 2-3 minutes before game realizes that your team just got spawn farmed for 20-30 clones You can throw uplinks in Ambush.

Horizen Kenpachi Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:47:00 - [21] - Quote Iv been playing since august and i can destroy anything i can comfortably run any suits i wish stomping only happens when tight gits use militia to farm isk or afk they all will be blinded by devine light omitted from my groin. Hit me with your nerf bat.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. But, it would actually establish them. This fact is not relevant. Whether he sucks as a player or is the best player in the game the post is not addressing his ability, but the nature of the game for everybody. We are not really discussing "facts", we are discussing opinion about the playing experience, no persons opinion is more important than another's. Some people think it is great fun to stomp new players, some don't. Some don't like getting stomped with no real chance, not many do like it.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1694	Posted - 2014.01.24 21:57:00 - [23] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Marad''er wrote: Ambush main stomping problem other than matchmaking.... Spawn system is R3TARDED! There are no smart spawns. Enemy team gets to your spawn location? Well Gg your ****. You will keep spawning there for another 2-3 minutes before game realizes that your team just got spawn farmed for 20-30 clones You can throw uplinks in Ambush. You gotta "smart" spawn in at least once before you can drop an uplink. And again if that position is overrun. I fail to see your point. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 466	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:54:00 - [24] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the *** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. And yet a corp that has a killer like you doesnt own a single district even in LOLPFC. Keep thinking that tiny pecker of yours is a philosopher's stone. Oh PC? Is that some kind of metric for you is it? When I don't give a toss about PC, it makes your metric subjective and irrelevant. You're the one complaining about too many tanks, I look forward to their deployment and relish the challenge and am good at it. Tank slaying ability is my subjective metric. Nah I'm being an *****. Sorry dude, I'm just roughhousing you. This forum is changing me... Electronic Warfare GOD in the making Proud Minmatar
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 435	Posted - 2014.01.24 22:56:00 - [25] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. Easier solution: Squad-free battle modes. No more battles with stacked sides vs. solo players. Everybody's happy. Life is killing me.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1103	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:01:00 - [26] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the ***** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. Adversity PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5921	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:05:00 - [27] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. Stomping isn't a unique problem to Dust 514. It happens in just about every shooter, including shooters where you don't unlock anything and everyone uses the same "fits." Starting all the way back from square one on infantry in Dust just because of some stomping would be unwise. Especially when we're so close to correcting all the mistakes from the beta and launch of Uprising. I'd hate to go through another 7-8 months just to get back to where we are now. And honestly I've been noticing a lot of really competitive matches lately. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Jamie Insano FACTION WARFARE ARMY 1	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 - [28] - Quote This game needs a big 're-do'. There is never 'some' Pub stomping going on, and whomever says there is most likely is a big offender of it. Also whoever thinks all the issues will be fixed in 1.8 is a resounding DUMBASS. This game is under EVE, which has had the same problems for TEN YEARS. Like I've said, dump EVERYTHING except 1 rifle, 1 suit, and 1 grenade. Make everyone use the same gear, and watch as the protostomping douchebags quit in droves. That sort of person only plays because DUST is so imbalanced. I have played 8 hours a day for the last 2 weeks and have never been in an even battle. Not. One. Time. I laughed my ass off when I logged on this morning and saw only 13k people on. This game is dying, and the few douches who are ruining it for the rest of us won't be able to keep it going with their AUR suits and weapons much longer. At this time next year everyone will be like, "Remember that ****** EVE fps game? I saw the lead designer flipping burgers at white Castle."
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2804	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:18:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Marad''er wrote: Ambush main stomping problem other than matchmaking.... Spawn system is R3TARDED! There are no smart spawns. Enemy team gets to your spawn location? Well Gg your *****. You will keep spawning there for another 2-3 minutes before game realizes that your team just got spawn farmed for 20-30 clones You can throw uplinks in Ambush. On behalf of the majority of smart, competitive players, uplinks in ambush are very stupid. Uplinks in Ambush are nothing more than a WP farming action. This also furthers the stomp action since going up against fierce competitors will lead to the team being wiped and one lone uplink in a obvious location that the reds just camp it. I have done it and I have experienced first hand like many others. Also, once the uplink has been placed...the smart deploy becomes non existent. Oh you can select SD, but probably you will spawn on a uplink...which also helps the stomp Also to the OP, its really not cool use some alt to push your "protostompin sucks" agenda. More than likely you have stated this on your main. I've seen guys on here who does this often and I give them the side eye. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.* For the State!! [email protected]
Doc Lawz Butcher's Nails 6	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:20:00 - [30] - Quote I have never really understood the point of these kind of posts . OP ask yourself 1 question : Are you having fun ? if the answer is yes - keep playing deal with the proto stop from tie time and keep kicking up dust with the rest of us. if the answer is no - Quit. A wise man once said the only 2 things you need to know in life " Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself and if you don't like what your doing stop doing it "

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2804	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:27:00 - [31] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: This game needs a big 're-do'. There is never 'some' Pub stomping going on, and whomever says there is most likely is a big offender of it. Also whoever thinks all the issues will be fixed in 1.8 is a resounding DUMBASS. This game is under EVE, which has had the same problems for TEN YEARS. Like I've said, dump EVERYTHING except 1 rifle, 1 suit, and 1 grenade. Make everyone use the same gear, and watch as the protostomping douchebags quit in droves. That sort of person only plays because DUST is so imbalanced. I have played 8 hours a day for the last 2 weeks and have never been in an even battle. Not. One. Time. I laughed my ass off when I logged on this morning and saw only 13k people on. This game is dying, and the few douches who are ruining it for the rest of us won't be able to keep it going with their AUR suits and weapons much longer. At this time next year everyone will be like, "Remember that ****** EVE fps game? I saw the lead designer flipping burgers at white Castle." Yea because those protostomping "scumbags" somehow lose their skill and over 20 mil lifetime SP when they get into a milita suit. You will still die! I would love to see this happen really. I'm tired of the talk. It's like you guys just keep repeating what the other guy said and really you begin to sound like whiners. And there have been many before you who claimed the game was dying. We are celebrating a year of Dust and we will celebrate many more. If you don't have the heart for this game, you don't have the heart. And no offense, but I've seen plenty of mercs from your corporation who do bad in battle even with a good team. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 228	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:45:00 - [32] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Q Sync Fail And this proves what exactly? A few days ago we were up against a que synced team of 14 people of FACTION WARFARE ARMY. We beat them easily. Bad players do not become better when they are many. You answered your own question. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:52:00 - [33] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Marad''er wrote: Ambush main stomping problem other than matchmaking.... Spawn system is R3TARDED! There are no smart spawns. Enemy team gets to your spawn location? Well Gg your ******. You will keep spawning there for another 2-3 minutes before game realizes that your team just got spawn farmed for 20-30 clones You can throw uplinks in Ambush. You gotta "smart" spawn in at least once before you can drop an uplink. And again if that position is overrun. I fail to see your point. That this is not the major issue causing stomping in Ambush. I don't think in evenly matched teams that your smart spawn point will be overrun before your team can spawn, thus it is a symptom of bad matchmaking, not something causing stomping. Once you have spawned once you should no longer be dependent on smart spawns, again, in evenly matched teams. It is a problem with an in game solution if the matchmaking is good.
Azura Sakura Altyr Initiative 563	Posted - 2014.01.24 23:58:00 - [34] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. Stomping isn't a unique problem to Dust 514. It happens in just about every shooter, including shooters where you don't unlock anything and everyone uses the same "fits." Starting all the way back from square one on infantry in Dust just because of some stomping would be unwise. Especially when we're so close to correcting all the mistakes from the beta and launch of Uprising. I'd hate to go through another 7-8 months just to get back to where we are now. And honestly I've been noticing a lot of really competitive matches lately. I think a new player has a better chance at having fun playing PS2 and other shooters (CoD, BF4) because it is more "fair" than this game. You can be a really great shooter and do well in those other games but in Dust, someone with better gear can win over a new player (1-10mil sp)
Teilka Darkmist 64	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:06:00 - [35] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. But, it would actually establish them. The O.P. is simply stating the obvious. Some people only use an ALT for giving likes. Technically we should all be using ALTs for posting and keeping the Mains hidden. Except we don't all have alts and some of us don't have the desire to make one just to post on forums. Plus I don't particularly care who knows my in-game name. Chances are I'm not likely to run into most of you and if I did I'd probably have little to no chance of survival. I mostly play a solo, scout suited sniper (not a redline sniper unless you count sniping into the other team's redline). When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1494	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:10:00 - [36] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months Simply... you shouldn't be getting stomped anymore at that Dust age. Get some friends. I'm not getting stomped more than my team is the one stomping. The problem is that neither is fun or even interesting at all. And the problem lies in the very fundamental game designs. Then like, maybe play solo ? It works quite well if you got the skills, nothing beats stomping 1 or 2 squads solo. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 2836	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:13:00 - [37] - Quote Stomping wouldnt happen if matchmaking wasn't garbage. If you enter with a squad, you should have to fight a squad. Such a basic concept that completely eludes CCP for whatever reason.
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 1967	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:15:00 - [38] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the ***** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. And yet a corp that has a killer like you doesnt own a single district even in LOLPFC. Keep thinking that tiny pecker of yours is a philosopher's stone. Quoting Forum 'All Talk"--- Call Out Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 603	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:17:00 - [39] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. So you want them to remove all the RPG aspects and turn the game into a sci-fi Battlefield clone? No thanks Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Teilka Darkmist 64	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:22:00 - [40] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: This game needs a big 're-do'. There is never 'some' Pub stomping going on, and whomever says there is most likely is a big offender of it. Also whoever thinks all the issues will be fixed in 1.8 is a resounding DUMBASS. This game is under EVE, which has had the same problems for TEN YEARS. Like I've said, dump EVERYTHING except 1 rifle, 1 suit, and 1 grenade. Make everyone use the same gear, and watch as the protostomping douchebags quit in droves. That sort of person only plays because DUST is so imbalanced. I have played 8 hours a day for the last 2 weeks and have never been in an even battle. Not. One. Time. I laughed my ass off when I logged on this morning and saw only 13k people on. This game is dying, and the few douches who are ruining it for the rest of us won't be able to keep it going with their AUR suits and weapons much longer. At this time next year everyone will be like, "Remember that ****** EVE fps game? I saw the lead designer flipping burgers at white Castle." Not entirely sure what problems you're talking about when you say that EVE has had the same problems for ten years. Of course I'm also not interested in going to Null and joining in on the blob fights that happen there so I'm assuming that the problems you mention are in that part of the game. Making everyone use the same gear would not only have the 'protostomping douchebags' as you call them quit in droves, but a large portion of the remaining playerbase as well. Since Dust doesn't have a huge playerbase to start with, that would kill the game. I could have sworn I saw a post earlier in the day which said the maximum concurrent users of dust in the previous 24 hours (or it may have been 48 I forget the exact details) was somewhere over 4k users. May I suggest that what you were looking at was the total number of people logged into Tranquility, which means Dust mercs and Eve capsuleers, and that it was shortly after the daily scheduled downtime so the number hadn't gotten back up to it's usual level of somewhere around 40 - 60k. Finally, CCP have been as careful as they can be to make the AUR equipment equivalent to the Isk equipment, but with a lower skill requirement and, usually, some form of downside to using that rather than the Isk version. They've done that to try to avoid accusations like yours that the game is pay to win. Yes you can use the AUR proto equipment sooner than the isk versions, but they're also trying to encourage you to keep putting the sp into the skills to get them to 5 so you can use the better gear. Which you buy with isk. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.

Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:29:00 - [41] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. time for a different game buddy. There is a ton. I am the real Darken
RedZer0 MK1 The Generals General Tso's Alliance 165	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:54:00 - [42] - Quote Make Faction Warfare matter. Let CCP know that we as the players want low level and high level players split.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 615	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:56:00 - [43] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole I've killed about 30 tanks since the event started in my RE laden LAV. That's the difference between the warrior like Minmatar and the ***** ass dress wearing lil cry baby Amarr who roll over like a dying dog in the face of adversary. This coming from a Caldari? Blasphemy... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2014.01.25 00:58:00 - [44] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Make Faction Warfare matter. Let CCP know that we as the players want low level and high level players split. bring back corp battles and let us spend up all the isk fightin it out against the corps we are on the same level with. I am the real Darken
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 302	Posted - 2014.01.25 01:02:00 - [45] - Quote RedZer0 MK1 wrote: Make Faction Warfare matter. Let CCP know that we as the players want low level and high level players split. "You" as a player want them split. I happily played against high level players in my infancy. Many of us played against Teamplayers and Imperfects in their prime and were better for it. The average game was a lot scarier back then when a proto squad showed up. Splitting an already small playerbase is not the answer. CCP should adjust the TTK slightly to allow new players with twitch skill a chance to overcome their lack of SP.
Assault Chileanme Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 41	Posted - 2014.01.25 01:55:00 - [46] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Splitting an already small playerbase is not the answer. CCP should adjust the TTK slightly to allow new players with twitch skill a chance to overcome their lack of SP. I agree with most of that, adjusting the TTK would greatly help by adding the ability to use tactics and intelligence to try to overcome obstacles rather than being stuck as cannon fodder for people with more SP. Also letting Scotty take a little longer to try to get better team compositions instead of just fast teams would go a long way without needing to split the playerbase. I think letting new and experience people play together is a great part of the game, they just need to quit stacking the deck against the new guys. In a different way I think decreasing the difference that SP can provide to combat effectiveness would also help a lot. Rewarding people to that extent who have been playing longer and/or don't have real life commitments that limits their available play time just seems like poor game design. Not to mention the fact that a lot of casual players would probably be more inclined to spend their money on AUR to try new things and catch up if they felt that it was worth sticking around.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2607	Posted - 2014.01.25 02:03:00 - [47] - Quote I think they need to increase the payouts so it's not as much of a beat down to die a lot PLUS realize you just lost a ton of ISK. There have been more good fights during this event than I can remember. It's because of the increased SP payout. Imagine how awesome it would be to have a 5x ISK for WP event instead of SP. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Jamie Insano FACTION WARFARE ARMY 2	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:53:00 - [48] - Quote How many times am I going to hear "If you don't like it just quit" from the players responsible for exploiting all the imbalance issues of the game. No, if I don't like it I just grenade suicide myself over and over until everyone on my team quits the battle and the other team gets no kills. In fact, doing so is MORE FUN than trying to play against the DBAGS who try to ruin it for everyone else. I invite everyone else who is dissatisfied with DUST, the excuses, and everything else to actively disrupt play in any way shape or form. In an average match of ambush, you can grenade suicide about 50 times. It only takes one player doing this to completely ruin the match, so if a couple more started in......
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 915	Posted - 2014.01.25 16:58:00 - [49] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: How many times am I going to hear "If you don't like it just quit" from the players responsible for exploiting all the imbalance issues of the game. No, if I don't like it I just grenade suicide myself over and over until everyone on my team quits the battle and the other team gets no kills. In fact, doing so is MORE FUN than trying to play against the DBAGS who try to ruin it for everyone else. I invite everyone else who is dissatisfied with DUST, the excuses, and everything else to actively disrupt play in any way shape or form. In an average match of ambush, you can grenade suicide about 50 times. It only takes one player doing this to completely ruin the match, so if a couple more started in...... Quote: A scrub is a player who is handicapped by self-imposed rules that the game knows nothing about. The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevents him from ever truly competing. These made-up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant
Sentient Archon 1437	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:24:00 - [50] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: You're the one complaining about too many tanks, I look forward to their deployment and relish the challenge and am good at it. Tank slaying ability is my subjective metric. Nah I'm being an *******. Sorry dude, I'm just roughhousing you. This forum is changing me... Yah man you are right. Whilst tank slaying in your dreams might be your forte unfortunately it aint mine. Mine is with sleeping with hot celebs;- last night I had a m+¬nage +á trois with Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez. Must be nice where you are at;- the mind of a delusional idiot is a wonderful thing. The only troll to successfully troll CCP.

Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 194	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:34:00 - [51] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. We could rename it CoD:F2P and just rip out the bare minimum connection we have with EVE. Your idea is so great. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Rorick Crawely SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 15	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:35:00 - [52] - Quote I'm currently leveling my alt to become main char so I'm sitting with 4mil SP after about two months and I'm not really getting stomped anymore. Hell, even in the beginning with my militia gear I was pulling even (It was tough, but not world ending) and I'm play playing as a dedicated Scout. Once you've got the mechanics of the game down I don't see how someone who's half decent at FPS games or has been playing for 16months is getting proto stomped.
sira draco Ancient Erectiles 64	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:48:00 - [53] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole I agree its boring on either side of the stomping, and one thing that these ultra competitive tryhards are forgetting is that A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, PROTOSTOMPING IS NOT FUN ITS BORING, ITS TOO EASY
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1360	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:00:00 - [54] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: Who's your main? It does not matter. It would not change the facts. All I can say is, that I am lucky that I have started playing this game way back when there were not that many people in full proto gear and nearly indestructible tanks. If I was starting to play this game today I would certainly not play for more than a few days. Hell, even getting shot by dumb-fire Swarm Launchers in closed beta was more fun than what this game is today. Take away everything we've gotten since then and give us back dumbfires. I remember raging about them back then, was still more fun than some of the matches I've been in recently (probably has something to do with Skirmish 1.0). Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness 1064	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:03:00 - [55] - Quote Zombie Knife wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? 16 months One like per month, hunh? {:)}{3GÇó>
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 510	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:06:00 - [56] - Quote Getting stomped isnt bad. Spending game after game after game after game after game hidng from tanks/being corraled by tanks then killed by scrubs is what sucks. Losing to the better man:np. Losing to scrubs in tanks: f-ing stupid. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1360	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:13:00 - [57] - Quote sira draco wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: How long have you played DUST for? It doesnt matter how long you have played this game;- currently there are only 2 game modes and that is stomp or get stomped. There is nothing much you can do when 6 tanks get dropped on you in a pub match and inspite of taking out tanks there are always 6 tanks on the field. #NewHole I agree its boring on either side of the stomping, and one thing that these ultra competitive tryhards are forgetting is that A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, PROTOSTOMPING IS NOT FUN ITS BORING, ITS TOO EASY FTFY Reason: Added emphasis Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 556	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:19:00 - [58] - Quote Remember, CCP absolutely hates any kind of new/casual players. They would much rather have a player count of 3k then do anything to help. What else explains poorly done gamemodes that only funnel every single player back into pubs? Why kick every new player from the academy so soon? Why have God awful matchmaking that would rather pit 2 full squads against random new/casual players than have those 2 squads fight each other? Why design terrible events that are only meant to reward WP whoring and slaughtering of as many people as possible in as little time as possible? Eve has an escape, high-sec, Dust has none. Quitting is the best answer. The game is only a place for bitter vets anymore.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 100	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:43:00 - [59] - Quote Jamie Insano wrote: I invite everyone else who is dissatisfied with DUST, the excuses, and everything else to actively disrupt play in any way shape or form. Awesome! There are other less misanthropic behaviors as well. For instance, take turns hacking a CRU/SD with an opponent, like described in this post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=138496&find=unread Grundstein Automation
Munin-Frey Fish Spotters Inc. 110	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:50:00 - [60] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Zombie Knife wrote: Remove all sorts of prototype and advanced gear. Remove tanks and ADS. Remove damage and hp %-bonuses from skills. Go back to the drawing board. The amount of stomping going on is beyond ridiculous and is not fun whether you are on the receiving end or if your team is stomping. Easier solution: Squad-free battle modes. No more battles with stacked sides vs. solo players. Everybody's happy. I agree with this. Dust really, REALLY favors team play. CCP should have a game mode for blueberries where people like me who have no interest in running in a squad can just run around and shoot some stuff without constantly being overrun 6 to 1 Closed Beta Veteran

Clone D Grundstein Automation 100	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:52:00 - [61] - Quote sira draco wrote: I agree its boring on either side of the stomping, and one thing that these ultra competitive tryhards are forgetting is that A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, PROTOSTOMPING IS NOT FUN ITS BORING, ITS TOO EASY Agreed, but there are dropships and LAVs to get around enemy lines of defense. Never give up. Never surrender. IMHO, going up against an unstoppable foe is emotionally thrilling. Lvl 1 systems hacking is the most excruciating experience when you're getting stomped. Turn that angst into ideas Make a new fitting for adapting to tough situations Cross the redline and make a statement Grundstein Automation
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1361	Posted - 2014.01.27 14:58:00 - [62] - Quote Clone D wrote: sira draco wrote: I agree its boring on either side of the stomping, and one thing that these ultra competitive tryhards are forgetting is that A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, PROTOSTOMPING IS NOT FUN ITS BORING, ITS TOO EASY Agreed, but there are dropships and LAVs to get around enemy lines of defense. Never give up. Never surrender. IMHO, going up against an unstoppable foe is emotionally thrilling. Lvl 1 systems hacking is the most excruciating experience when you're getting stomped. Turn that angst into ideas Make a new fitting for adapting to tough situations Cross the redline and make a statement Ugh, I remember that. I will never give up my Complex Codebreakers. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta


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