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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:42:00 -
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The current state of PFC has been brought to the attention of Negative-Feedback.
It has been found that the current enforcement has become lacking due to a combination of a lack of resources and desire to deal with the unique challenges that PFC presents. Negative-Feedback has formed an exploratory committee to further investigate the state of Planet FIght Club and see what measures must be taken to bring PFC back to full operation. We appreciate the community's continued desire to work together to try and keep PFC operational, but it seems a firm hand may be needed to bring it back in step.
We ask for the current PFC land holders to mail "Kane Spero" in-game with their current concerns and thoughts as our investigation continues.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:45:00 -
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What? DDB can't keep control of PFC?
Who would have guessed?
So about those vehicle locks...
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2328
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:47:00 -
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I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:50:00 -
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Pull them into matches I mean.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:57:00 -
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first things first.. see how much of a cluster f%^k it has become.
far as I know most of the original rules are still roughly in place, although not strongly enforced and a lot of things going on hurting the entire concept of PFC
the inquiry has been launched and we need to allow some time to get a grasp of what's really going on.
the community asked, and we'll see where it goes from here.
no promises but at least you've piqued interest enough for the inquiry to be launched
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
869
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:01:00 -
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I have seen people attacking with 300+ Clones
People bringing players from other Corps (Non-Alliance Members)
Using Clones for ISK generation
Never using their clones (Not fighting even once a week)
Using clones to attack districts from outside of PFC... and few more
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
473
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:09:00 -
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Kain, might you take a look in the CPM forum and read my thread? I would like the insight of the CPM on the issue. Or just go to feedback/requests and have a look there, it's the Petition to bring back corp battles.
Thanks.
BRING BACK CORP BATTLES
SIGN THE PEITION HERE
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1208
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:14:00 -
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I will mail on behalf of Top Men.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:23:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I will mail on behalf of Top Men.
Chill out Soraya, if you're doing stuff like this you don't have to shout **** out just do it for fucks sake.
Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises? please like with a cherry on top... and sprinkles...or does CCP not want CBs back? or is it due to the fact that CBs were old FW? or can you not answer the question due to the NDA?
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:29:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises?
Simple and effective!
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:31:00 -
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it sounds like CCP prefers to sit back and they literally hold side bets on the pass/fail odds of PFC
I agree the return of Corp Battles would solve all this, but that's more UI crap which would actually require some work.
I think they are prioritizing things much better now than before, and while im sure CBs are on the to-do list, theres a lot more gameplay related things they are addressing first
that and the bounce-house rental outside CCP headquarters has to be returned next week so they wanna get their money's worth out of that 
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2696
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:34:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between.
One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2696
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:37:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I will mail on behalf of Top Men. Chill out Soraya, if you're doing stuff like this you don't have to shout **** out just do it for fucks sake. Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises? please like with a cherry on top... and sprinkles...or does CCP not want CBs back? or is it due to the fact that CBs were old FW? or can you not answer the question due to the NDA?
Honestly, also talking to Bane here as well, nothing would make me happier than a return of some form of corp battles with iteration to remove some of the issues that were prevalent before.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
687
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:48:00 -
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If you need a hand restoring PFC, I'm more than happy to do so. As much as I say I hate PFC, I'd like to see it better. It helped my previous corp get better, and it may have saved my previous clans foothold in its dust wing.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:35:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I will mail on behalf of Top Men. Chill out Soraya, if you're doing stuff like this you don't have to shout **** out just do it for fucks sake. Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises? please like with a cherry on top... and sprinkles...or does CCP not want CBs back? or is it due to the fact that CBs were old FW? or can you not answer the question due to the NDA? Honestly, also talking to Bane here as well, nothing would make me happier than a return of some form of corp battles with iteration to remove some of the issues that were prevalent before.
Is CCP bringing back corp battles? yes, no or NDA. ALSO if you need help I'll lend a hand in ANY way as you've helped me I feel it would only be the gentlemanly act.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:36:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises? Simple and effective! 16 members online... Lets go pick a fight.
I know...
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1211
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:43:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum.
Bear in mind, the two most powerful factions in EVE online have a complicated treaty between them, that basically amounts to PFC's no capture rule plus an agreement on ship usage that's pretty much the EVE equivalent of having a standard gear only fight. When you get right down to it, PFC's fully in the spirit of EVE Online.
(For those curious, it's the CFC and PL, and the agreements in play are OTEC and the BoTLRD Accords)
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:50:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. Bear in mind, the two most powerful factions in EVE online have a complicated treaty between them, that basically amounts to PFC's no capture rule plus an agreement on ship usage that's pretty much the EVE equivalent of having a standard gear only fight. When you get right down to it, PFC's fully in the spirit of EVE Online. (For those curious, it's the CFC and PL, and the agreements in play are OTEC and the BoTLRD Accords)
Erm Soraya no one... no one cares here go to the EveO forums... anyways Kain's keeping PFC from getting killed.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1211
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:51:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Erm Soraya no one... no one cares here go to the EveO forums... anyways Kain's keeping PFC from getting killed.
No EveO forums needed. http://themittani.com/news/b0tlrd-accords-pl-and-cfc-amend-otec
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:52:00 -
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Not the point... I mean the war room isn't the place for ANY thing outside of MH.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1211
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:56:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Not the point... I mean the war room isn't the place for ANY thing outside of MH.
Yes, but nothing happens in Molden Heath and nobody goes there. So we should all just leave the forum and go home.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2068
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:00:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Not the point... I mean the war room isn't the place for ANY thing outside of MH. Yes, but nothing happens in Molden Heath and nobody goes there. So we should all just leave the forum and go home.
Nothing in EVE... plenty of stuff on the ground did until now. Plenty of E-peen measurement and such... EVE guys just use bigger words...
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2334
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:04:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum.
So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules.
We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on.
I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity.
Thanks for your reply.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
598
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:12:00 -
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I believe you are allowed to use alliance members if the rules still apply.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:13:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:I believe you are allowed to use alliance members if the rules still apply.
Quality
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:14:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:I believe you are allowed to use alliance members if the rules still apply.
I reckon we wait for the drama to subside and then get a district, what say thee?
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
598
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:17:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:I believe you are allowed to use alliance members if the rules still apply. I reckon we wait for the drama to subside and then get a district, what say thee?
Agreed, let's continue to pursue this very actively as DF will very soon be able to have a proper 16 man team and I know Swamp is close also, until then, wenches bring our men whiskey!!!!
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:18:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:I believe you are allowed to use alliance members if the rules still apply. I reckon we wait for the drama to subside and then get a district, what say thee? Agreed, let's continue to pursue this very actively as DF will very soon be able to have a proper 16 man team and I know Swamp is close also, until then, wenches bring our men whiskey!!!!
Quality.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
474
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:19:00 -
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Even the CPM ignore me >:(
BRING BACK CORP BATTLES
SIGN THE PEITION HERE
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2340
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:30:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:Even the CPM ignore me >:(
Just because you wasnt acknowledged doesn't mean your post wasn't read.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Jade Tech
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
48
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:37:00 -
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Finally ( O_o) Yesh. PFC needs to be fixed, or, as a last resort, be purged for Planetary Conquest entirely. (I prefer the second option, but eh... )
Sniper no sniping! -Dora's last words x_x
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2340
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:38:00 -
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Jade Tech wrote:Finally ( O_o) Yesh. PFC needs to be fixed, or, as a last resort, be purged for Planetary Conquest entirely. (I prefer the second option, but eh... )
You would though. 
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
476
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:51:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:843-BANE wrote:Even the CPM ignore me >:( Just because you wasnt acknowledged doesn't mean your post wasn't read.
True indeed, but without response here or on any of my 3 threads regarding the subject I'll never know 
BRING BACK CORP BATTLES
SIGN THE PEITION HERE
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Jade Tech
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
48
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:56:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Jade Tech wrote:Finally ( O_o) Yesh. PFC needs to be fixed, or, as a last resort, be purged for Planetary Conquest entirely. (I prefer the second option, but eh... ) You would though.
Yeah. I think it's a good idea and all, teaching new corps about PC, but in reality, they aren't going to get anywhere. That's not the main reason I want it gone though. If Corps think they deserve to be in PC, they need to prove it with strength, not the moneys. People are given the chance to practice PC now by qsyncing FW/Skirm. If you get lucky (or not), you'll be up against a challenging opponent. There you go. That's your practice.
Right now, PFC is a joke. People locking their districts for the moneys and breaking rules. It was a nice idea back then, but ever since, the society has been deteriorating. If we don't eliminate the problem now, it will only get worse. I can say this for many, PFC will disappear one day, so why not just save ourselves time and get rid of it now.
In my opinion.
Sniper no sniping! -Dora's last words x_x
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2341
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:14:00 -
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Jade Tech wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Jade Tech wrote:Finally ( O_o) Yesh. PFC needs to be fixed, or, as a last resort, be purged for Planetary Conquest entirely. (I prefer the second option, but eh... ) You would though. Yeah. I think it's a good idea and all, teaching new corps about PC, but in reality, they aren't going to get anywhere. That's not the main reason I want it gone though. If Corps think they deserve to be in PC, they need to prove it with strength, not the moneys. People are given the chance to practice PC now by qsyncing FW/Skirm. If you get lucky (or not), you'll be up against a challenging opponent. There you go. That's your practice. Right now, PFC is a joke. People locking their districts for the moneys and breaking rules. It was a nice idea back then, but ever since, the society has been deteriorating. If we don't eliminate the problem now, it will only get worse. I can say this for many, PFC will disappear one day, so why not just save ourselves time and get rid of it now. In my opinion.
Yeah I hear that. It should really just be used to get corps up to speed and I totally agree that theres no training better than diving straight in but what makes that a total pain is having to grind pubs for isk.
Grinding pubs with a high corp tax rate is a nightmare because of the proto stompers, in the past I and most people with it are all guilty on some level though but that's all on ccp in the grand scheme of things.
I can assure you that if there were other ways to accumulate isk then there'd be far less of a problem, if the dust player market was implemented I could play that and make loads very quickly, iv done it in many RPG games, it'd be nothing new.
Inevitably there'd be QQ from market newbs or buyers who don't like to be played or realise what is happening, I play the players in markets also.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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MoonEagle A
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
99
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:57:00 -
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I am proud to say that Subsonic Synthesis has used our district to help other corps train. We just had a friendly battle and will have another one on Sunday. We have been attacked with hostile intentions but have kept it still. I will tell Mush you want him to contact you. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1644
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Posted - 2014.01.24 00:22:00 -
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Soraya will contact you with what we know but for my part the only corp I have seen definately breaing the rules (with my own eyes not from reports) is Men In Black OPS.
Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1213
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Posted - 2014.01.24 01:59:00 -
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Jade Tech wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Jade Tech wrote:Finally ( O_o) Yesh. PFC needs to be fixed, or, as a last resort, be purged for Planetary Conquest entirely. (I prefer the second option, but eh... ) You would though. Yeah. I think it's a good idea and all, teaching new corps about PC, but in reality, they aren't going to get anywhere. That's not the main reason I want it gone though. If Corps think they deserve to be in PC, they need to prove it with strength, not the moneys. People are given the chance to practice PC now by qsyncing FW/Skirm. If you get lucky (or not), you'll be up against a challenging opponent. There you go. That's your practice. Right now, PFC is a joke. People locking their districts for the moneys and breaking rules. It was a nice idea back then, but ever since, the society has been deteriorating. If we don't eliminate the problem now, it will only get worse. I can say this for many, PFC will disappear one day, so why not just save ourselves time and get rid of it now. In my opinion.
This is known as an elitist snot attitude.
The thing is. Plenty of people get fights on PFC. But it seems that certain corps would like to both lock their districts, so they don't have to play, and want to take away PFC, so we can't play. In the mind of the elitist snot, I guess, the only way to play... is for nobody to play.
A couple corps using it in bad faith is not a justification for ruining it for those that are.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2703
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Posted - 2014.01.24 06:43:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:True indeed, but without response here or on any of my 3 threads regarding the subject I'll never know
I do think that corp battles should come back in some form, but at the same time I think we need to work as best we can with what we have.
TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules. We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on. I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity. Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, just shoot me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero".
It does sound like there is at least one corp not contributing to PFC. Still more investigating needs to be done.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2361
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Posted - 2014.01.24 06:54:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:843-BANE wrote:True indeed, but without response here or on any of my 3 threads regarding the subject I'll never know I do think that corp battles should come back in some form, but at the same time I think we need to work as best we can with what we have. TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules. We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on. I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity. Thanks for your reply. Yeah, just shoot me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero". It does sound like there is at least one corp not contributing to PFC. Still more investigating needs to be done.
Ace, will do soon, as in semi soonGäó, not quite soonGäó
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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The Baby Shaker
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
111
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Posted - 2014.01.24 12:35:00 -
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Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
877
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Posted - 2014.01.24 13:14:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:Even the CPM ignore me >:(
I think he replied to you earlier bro.. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
877
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Posted - 2014.01.24 13:16:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules. We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on. I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity. Thanks for your reply.
Tech, i think all of us went through that phase... Member Donations and such. I'd really like to fight you. Please attack us sometimes.
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MoonEagle A
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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We got attacked by Eternal Hate last night. One of theirs members admitted to knowing it was PFC but they didn't care. He said they were going to take it. They used ringers from Team Players, SVER, Southern Legion and Titans of Phoenix. Titans tried to take it before. They lost last night though. |
Traky78
What The French
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:46:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao
So true.
Kain, you can't know which corps you are attacking when you accept contracts and you want to rules PFC ?
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2709
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:46:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao
PFC rules set by an organization that doesn't have the backing to actually enforce the rules they have set. You need to understand that we made PFC, and it has been unpleasant to watch it decay under the current rule. We'll continue collecting feedback, but it does seem fairly clear that the current enforcers aren't up for the task.
Many of those that have chosen to manage PFC have made the same mistake in making complicated rules that are nigh impossible to track, which results in endless complaints and finger-pointing on the forums. Again some rules have to be in place, but one simple thing needs to accomplished in managing FIght Club: have people fight.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:47:00 -
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Traky78 wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao So true. Kain, you can't know which corps you are attacking when you accept contracts and you want to rules PFC ? Funny....
Feel free to not be a part of PFC then - neither of your corps belong there, anyways. So your opinions, unless backed by something concrete, are as useless as your teams.
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Traky78
What The French
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:51:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Traky78 wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao So true. Kain, you can't know which corps you are attacking when you accept contracts and you want to rules PFC ? Funny.... Feel free to not be a part of PFC then - neither of your corps belong there, anyways. So your opinions, unless backed by something concrete, are as useless as your teams.
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2709
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:00:00 -
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I would like each corp currently on PFC to designate a point of contact and mail me at "Kane Spero" in-game. Please be sure to sure to put PFC in the subject line.
Traky78, I really see no issue with school corps being on PFC as long as they are active.
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:23:00 -
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Traky78 wrote:Long Evity wrote:Traky78 wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao So true. Kain, you can't know which corps you are attacking when you accept contracts and you want to rules PFC ? Funny.... Feel free to not be a part of PFC then - neither of your corps belong there, anyways. So your opinions, unless backed by something concrete, are as useless as your teams. I'm not part of PFC. My school corp is.
And that is pretty concrete. Please, continue.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:40:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao
comparing merc contracts to PFC political hullabaloo... come on now bro.
I love it when someone gets attacked, the attacker hires people, those people ***** slap the defender, and the defender's popped a$$ sore gets spread all over the war room...
PFC is something for the community, something us, even as mercs, are considering stepping in once again to get in order and regulate... for the community
the rest of MH is an entirely different story, and as Ive told your leader, our agenda is absolutely nothing. u pay.. we play
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2069
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:42:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao comparing merc contracts to PFC political hullabaloo... come on now bro. I love it when someone gets attacked, the attacker hires people, those people ***** slap the defender, and the defender's popped a$$ sore gets spread all over the war room... PFC is something for the community, something us, even as mercs, are considering stepping in once again to get in order and regulate... for the community the rest of MH is an entirely different story, and as Ive told your leader, our agenda is absolutely nothing. u pay.. we play
I like you for this and helping PFC. I might toss something your way for this, IF I have some excess resources.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:50:00 -
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its not easy dealing with stupidity and grudges. I can go on about lots of things but it accomplishes nothing.
I have the personnel available to get PFC under control, I think we can all agree on that.
now can we be motivated?
Me personally, even with the constant headache before, took pride in seeing PFC working as it was originally intended, if even only for a short time and not completely.
the community is why its there, which (cant believe im saying this) is quite commendable
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
325
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:00:00 -
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heres an idea for PFC makes those district not generate money, i don't know if its a dumb idea probably is but might stop some corps from taking a district on PFC, or if CCP ever opened up more districts we could set up an entire system for PFC so more corps will have an opportunity to train for pc.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2069
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:04:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:heres an idea for PFC makes those district not generate money, i don't know if its a dumb idea probably is but might stop some corps from taking a district on PFC, or if CCP ever opened up more districts we could set up an entire system for PFC so more corps will have an opportunity to train for pc.
Passive ISK generation is a bad Idea but until a alternative comes there's nothing else.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
325
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:07:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:heres an idea for PFC makes those district not generate money, i don't know if its a dumb idea probably is but might stop some corps from taking a district on PFC, or if CCP ever opened up more districts we could set up an entire system for PFC so more corps will have an opportunity to train for pc.
Passive ISK generation is a bad Idea but until a alternative comes there's nothing else.
instead of a daily isk gain make it every three days, corp that have many district just gain isk and for what really? theres nothing in this game at the moment that corp can spend isk on |
Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2709
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:12:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:heres an idea for PFC makes those district not generate money, i don't know if its a dumb idea probably is but might stop some corps from taking a district on PFC, or if CCP ever opened up more districts we could set up an entire system for PFC so more corps will have an opportunity to train for pc.
Passive ISK generation is a bad Idea but until a alternative comes there's nothing else. instead of a daily isk gain make it every three days, corp that have many district just gain isk and for what really? theres nothing in this game at the moment that corp can spend isk on
I think you may be on to something, but I think at the end of the day expecting mechanic changes for a player initiative isn't going to happen. It will be those involved in PFC that make those kinds of changes in effect depending on how PFC is operated.
The feedback so far has been very helpful. We may have a path here to restoring PFC to it's former glory and putting the power into the hands of those that are contributing members.
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:15:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I would like each corp currently on PFC to designate a point of contact and mail me at "Kane Spero" in-game. Please be sure to sure to put PFC in the subject line.
Traky78, I really see no issue with school corps being on PFC as long as they are active. What is the reasoning behind Nyain Chan having a PFC district? Their main corp has over 50 districts... if they want to train, why can't they do it on those? This is not enough activity to warrant a PFC district in my eyes.
I just think that the district would be better spent on a corp that uses it.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1224
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:25:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I would like each corp currently on PFC to designate a point of contact and mail me at "Kane Spero" in-game. Please be sure to sure to put PFC in the subject line.
Traky78, I really see no issue with school corps being on PFC as long as they are active. What is the reasoning behind Nyain Chan having a PFC district? Their main corp has over 50 districts... if they want to train, why can't they do it on those? This is not enough activity to warrant a PFC district in my eyes. I just think that the district would be better spent on a corp that uses it.
Nyain San still has the district on PFC because nobody in the game is able to remove them from it anyways.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2069
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:36:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I would like each corp currently on PFC to designate a point of contact and mail me at "Kane Spero" in-game. Please be sure to sure to put PFC in the subject line.
Traky78, I really see no issue with school corps being on PFC as long as they are active. What is the reasoning behind Nyain Chan having a PFC district? Their main corp has over 50 districts... if they want to train, why can't they do it on those? This is not enough activity to warrant a PFC district in my eyes. I just think that the district would be better spent on a corp that uses it. Nyain San still has the district on PFC because nobody in the game is able to remove them from it anyways.
Hmm if Motinai Japan, Die Valk, and the other Japanese/Asian corps were more active...
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:36:00 -
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all current concerns are being noted. still debating committal, but many really interesting ideas being tossed around that could actually finally get this whole thing over the proverbial hump
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2371
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:44:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules. We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on. I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity. Thanks for your reply. Tech, i think all of us went through that phase... Member Donations and such. I'd really like to fight you. Please attack us sometimes.
We have a good while getting members up to speed and grinding isk.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:49:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao comparing merc contracts to PFC political hullabaloo... come on now bro. I love it when someone gets attacked, the attacker hires people, those people ***** slap the defender, and the defender's popped a$$ sore gets spread all over the war room... PFC is something for the community, something us, even as mercs, are considering stepping in once again to get in order and regulate... for the community the rest of MH is an entirely different story, and as Ive told your leader, our agenda is absolutely nothing. u pay.. we play
Although I'm 'not relevant' and a scrub because iv built my corp from scratch, I'll help in anyway if needed, I'm a lot better than people assume. Iv just always fought with the under dogs against the best so iv not really had a chance to fight with a top notch team.
Plus any victory isk for the corp wallet
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
326
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:50:00 -
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We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan |
XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
392
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:58:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan That is totally understandable... but as a player from Nyain San, do you really think Nyain Chan needs a PFC district to train on? Or, do you think the district would be better spent on a corp that would actually use it as PFC was intended?
I am not disputing the other facts you have stated as I know little about what is going on in PFC anymore, just mentioning some of the stuff I noticed by looking at dotlan and seeing activity.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:03:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan
understood and noted.
like I said IF we proceed there will be some instant changes with some residence, hopefully done peacefully to promote PFC for the community.
until such time its business as usual for everyone in its current state, but yes no one is singling out Nyain, or RND, or WTF, or those Flatline scrubs, VC, or Soldiers of Blood locking their districts, or some others still under investigation.
it would be a universal move where hopefully those that would fall under the 'you cant be here' category we could get moved with no issue.
My experience in the past was this end of it was rather successful. Sure some timezone differences delay some moves, but things were handled with relative success.
I know 1 thing I would be strongly supporting is PFC residents do not hold land elsewhere.
training corps topic is being discussed both for and against, and many other theoreticals being tossed around before anything would be brought to the public.
lots of foundational work before I can really get on board personally, but hey, Its Friday, and there seems to be lots of keyboard mashin goin on today
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
326
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:03:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan That is totally understandable... but as a player from Nyain San, do you really think Nyain Chan needs a PFC district to train on? Or, do you think the district would be better spent on a corp that would actually use it as PFC was intended? I am not disputing the other facts you have stated as I know little about what is going on in PFC anymore, just mentioning some of the stuff I noticed by looking at dotlan and seeing activity.
I understand that you think a different corp would use that district better, but NS does attack Nyain Chan, just sometimes it gets put on hold for reason like the RA VS Pro 5. war and then PC after that we had with corp that were ringing for Pro. 5 but we did attack them earlier this week so its not like we use it to farm even more isk. |
XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
393
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:13:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan That is totally understandable... but as a player from Nyain San, do you really think Nyain Chan needs a PFC district to train on? Or, do you think the district would be better spent on a corp that would actually use it as PFC was intended? I am not disputing the other facts you have stated as I know little about what is going on in PFC anymore, just mentioning some of the stuff I noticed by looking at dotlan and seeing activity. I understand that you think a different corp would use that district better, but NS does attack Nyain Chan, just sometimes it gets put on hold for reason like the RA VS Pro 5. war and then PC after that we had with corp that were ringing for Pro. 5 but we did attack them earlier this week so its not like we use it to farm even more isk. Understood, but why should a corp with 50+ districts need a PFC district? If you are doing training between NS and NC, then have NC attack an NS district with a clone pack. I know the cost isn't an issue with the what is most likely trillions you have in the corp wallet right now.
I just think that the district is better spent on a lower tier corp... but that is just my opinion and I may be way off base here.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2372
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:15:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:We are not the only corp that has a PFC district that should, RND has one and they will be sending clones at us from their PFC district don't really mind they did that but what was unfair is the send all but 1 clone at us and then lock their district with a BS attack.
I understand Nyain Chan should not have a district on their but from what i believe that district we took on PFC was from a corp violating rules so we took it and who ever was policing PFC at the time allowed us to give the district to Nyain Chan That is totally understandable... but as a player from Nyain San, do you really think Nyain Chan needs a PFC district to train on? Or, do you think the district would be better spent on a corp that would actually use it as PFC was intended? I am not disputing the other facts you have stated as I know little about what is going on in PFC anymore, just mentioning some of the stuff I noticed by looking at dotlan and seeing activity. I understand that you think a different corp would use that district better, but NS does attack Nyain Chan, just sometimes it gets put on hold for reason like the RA VS Pro 5. war and then PC after that we had with corp that were ringing for Pro. 5 but we did attack them earlier this week so its not like we use it to farm even more isk. Understood, but why should a corp with 50+ districts need a PFC district? If you are doing training between NS and NC, then have NC attack an NS district with a clone pack. I know the cost isn't an issue with the what is most likely trillions you have in the corp wallet right now. I just think that the district is better spent on a lower tier corp... but that is just my opinion and I may be way off base here.
This, I lost hopes for a second there hahaha.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
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2372
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:19:00 -
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How much passive isk is it per day per district? Because swamp would like to use the passive for pfc while grinding isk to be used when we are up to speed and ready, we'll be using it for alliance members as well because they are generally on our level, we'd take in on beta vet to practice being fc per match as well.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1552
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:22:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district?
I think it's 110k ISK per clone.
So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:33:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day.
Argh, that's pretty slow lol, better than nothing though. So a battle every 3 or 4 days, not bad.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:10:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day.
I could have swore it was reduced to 80k or 60k...
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2712
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:33:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day. I could have swore it was reduced to 80k or 60k...
There were some plans that CCP FoxFour posted on the forums that would have reduced passive ISK, but they were never implemented.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:35:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day. I could have swore it was reduced to 80k or 60k... There were some plans that CCP FoxFour posted on the forums that would have reduced passive ISK, but they were never implemented.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:36:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day. Argh, that's pretty slow lol, better than nothing though. So a battle every 3 or 4 days, not bad.
Hey tech, for a nominal fee i can draw you up a plan that will yield your corp enough isk in less than a week to get a district and get goin.
not hard to do at all. 100% legit
just sayin
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:39:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day. Argh, that's pretty slow lol, better than nothing though. So a battle every 3 or 4 days, not bad. Hey tech, for a nominal fee i can draw you up a plan that will yield your corp enough isk in less than a week to get a district and get goin. not hard to do at all. 100% legit just sayin
That depends on what that is, I'll be on in about half hour, hour tops. Iv got the llc channel remembered. Speak soon.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2380
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:42:00 -
[78] - Quote
Depending on the plan I mean, we do have 235 mil saved but its not realistically enough, were not l33t enough yet if that makes sense. You built team players so I'm sure you know what I mean.
See you in a bit.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:11:00 -
[79] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Depending on the plan I mean, we do have 235 mil saved but its not realistically enough, were not l33t enough yet if that makes sense. You built team players so I'm sure you know what I mean.
See you in a bit.
Talk to Ydubba and Cubs the RND district will be vacated soon by RND.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2713
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:09:00 -
[80] - Quote
It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero".
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:40:00 -
[81] - Quote
Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
618
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:00:00 -
[82] - Quote
As of last night, three PFC districts were locked, "not naming names to be rude" one of which has been sitting at max clones all week, use em or lose em, especially if some of these corps have held those districts for 6+ months.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2714
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:01:00 -
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It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2462
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:10:00 -
[84] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here.
Swamp marines does and will definitely use it properly and death firm in our alliance wants one.
I guarantee that they will be used properly.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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The Baby Shaker
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
119
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:19:00 -
[85] - Quote
We finally got southern legion off of pfc after our alliance hit them on that crappy timer even though we are at war. Now it is under attack by Unsver true bloods and they are trying to hire STB. We are extremely low on clones because we figured the community had the decency to leave PFCout of it. I know Stb and us are fighting right now but PFC should not be included in this war.
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
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Bloodthirsty Heathen
Talledos Inc
30
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack
Did I read that well, Nyan San crying for being attacked?
#this is why I play Dust
btw, I hear you lost and have changed your timers back to weird hours
Dust Alerts! |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
349
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:43:00 -
[87] - Quote
Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack Did I read that well, Nyan San crying for being attacked? #this is why I play Dust btw, I hear you lost and have changed your timers back to weird hours Dust Alerts!
No just a corp on PFC that shouldnt be on there moving clones from there and the fact you lock your district with fake attacks |
Bloodthirsty Heathen
Talledos Inc
30
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:54:00 -
[88] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack Did I read that well, Nyan San crying for being attacked? #this is why I play Dust btw, I hear you lost and have changed your timers back to weird hours Dust Alerts! No just a corp on PFC that shouldnt be on there moving clones from there and the fact you lock your district with fake attacks weird hours?? if you mean we have our timers set to when the majority of when our players are on then yes there weird hours
I'm sorry but you have about 20+ players that live either America, Latin America or EU (Most of them personal friends that I make fun of for joining a corp that doesn't even speak their language) ... so don't tell me the "majority of the players", since you could have some "timers" for those poor suckers. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
349
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:57:00 -
[89] - Quote
Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack Did I read that well, Nyan San crying for being attacked? #this is why I play Dust btw, I hear you lost and have changed your timers back to weird hours Dust Alerts! No just a corp on PFC that shouldnt be on there moving clones from there and the fact you lock your district with fake attacks weird hours?? if you mean we have our timers set to when the majority of when our players are on then yes there weird hours I'm sorry but you have about 20+ players that live either America, Latin America or EU (Most of them personal friends that I make fun of for joining a corp that doesn't even speak their language) ... so don't tell me the "majority of the players", since you could have some "timers" for those poor suckers.
ok man what ever you say i think i know better than you about the number of players in the corp I'm in then you do but hey congrats even if you are in valor you beat us |
Bloodthirsty Heathen
Talledos Inc
30
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Posted - 2014.01.27 05:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Bloodthirsty Heathen wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Valor is now attacking us from PFC, launch all there clones but one and put it under a BS attack Did I read that well, Nyan San crying for being attacked? #this is why I play Dust btw, I hear you lost and have changed your timers back to weird hours Dust Alerts! No just a corp on PFC that shouldnt be on there moving clones from there and the fact you lock your district with fake attacks weird hours?? if you mean we have our timers set to when the majority of when our players are on then yes there weird hours I'm sorry but you have about 20+ players that live either America, Latin America or EU (Most of them personal friends that I make fun of for joining a corp that doesn't even speak their language) ... so don't tell me the "majority of the players", since you could have some "timers" for those poor suckers. ok man what ever you say i think i know better than you about the number of players in the corp I'm in then you do but hey congrats even if you are in valor you beat us
But I just wanna play with you more ... |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2337
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Posted - 2014.01.27 05:04:00 -
[91] - Quote
I told the powers at be that we were going to be given the district up on sun or mon. But since Nyain San attacked it on Sat.....
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2715
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:10:00 -
[92] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here. Swamp marines does and will definitely use it properly and death firm in our alliance wants one. I guarantee that they will be used properly.
Death Firm should be able to fill you in on some of the details, but it looks like there will some options lined up soon.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
642
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:22:00 -
[93] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here. Swamp marines does and will definitely use it properly and death firm in our alliance wants one. I guarantee that they will be used properly. Death Firm should be able to fill you in on some of the details, but it looks like there will some options lined up soon.
My representative should be getting ahold of you today Spero, If you can't get ahold of him I'm usually on a lot throughout the day.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Clyffton Donovan
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
83
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:50:00 -
[94] - Quote
CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:
My representative should be getting ahold of you today Spero, If you can't get ahold of him I'm usually on a lot throughout the day.
Contact has been made, No worries.
I will say this, Kain, I definitely appreciate all your hard work on this, I understand how much this undertaking truly is, and If DF. can make it any easier just let me know. With this path being taken PFC can be what we all originally wanted it to be.
Director / Combat Medic
Zulu Squad Leader
Invictus Maneo~ "I Remain Unvanquished"
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
897
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero".
Will MSG you tonight... Have a skype channel? |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
897
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:25:00 -
[96] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here.
We changed our timer to an earlier time for our Euro Players. Some are pointing it as US locking district, but changing timers automatically sort of locks it... |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1243
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:48:00 -
[97] - Quote
"Locked" status doesn't prevent attacks, NAV. "District locking" actually places them "Under Attack".
I know our EU teams have been looking for more opponents. Maybe they'll hit you up sometime.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
897
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:53:00 -
[98] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:"Locked" status doesn't prevent attacks, NAV. "District locking" actually places them "Under Attack".
I know our EU teams have been looking for more opponents. Maybe they'll hit you up sometime.
I know bro, but some people don't know that and likes to point fingers lol
Please do attack us any time. Also let us know if you need to set up some rules of engagement or gear restrictions or anything of that sort. We might even bring some of our alliance members to fight with us too. So hopefully we wont have any "Ringers" issues or confusion. Always looking for a good fight. Had a few great ones last week. |
Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1244
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Posted - 2014.01.27 18:18:00 -
[99] - Quote
NAV, Top Men always fights with mixed alliance teams, so by all means, feel free. And we're quite flexible with regards to RoEs or gear restrictions. We just like a good fight.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
899
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Posted - 2014.01.27 18:52:00 -
[100] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:NAV, Top Men always fights with mixed alliance teams, so by all means, feel free. And we're quite flexible with regards to RoEs or gear restrictions. We just like a good fight.
Open for good fights. Just hit us up anytime... |
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2720
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:52:00 -
[101] - Quote
NAV HIV wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero". Will MSG you tonight... Have a skype channel?
Really good discussion. Looking forward to working with you to make PFC a success going into the future.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
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Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1657
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Posted - 2014.01.28 07:34:00 -
[102] - Quote
NAV HIV wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:NAV, Top Men always fights with mixed alliance teams, so by all means, feel free. And we're quite flexible with regards to RoEs or gear restrictions. We just like a good fight. Open for good fights. Just hit us up anytime...
Another EU timer for PFC? I may name my firstborn after you for this 
Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
900
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:22:00 -
[103] - Quote
Medic 1879 wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:NAV, Top Men always fights with mixed alliance teams, so by all means, feel free. And we're quite flexible with regards to RoEs or gear restrictions. We just like a good fight. Open for good fights. Just hit us up anytime... Another EU timer for PFC? I may name my firstborn after you for this
Not exactly a EU timer bro, It's a thin line between late EU times and Early US times... Don't wanna fight without our EU brothers... Lucky i'm the only Asian in the CORP or else it would be very difficult to to find a fine line among those timers lol |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
900
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:25:00 -
[104] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero". Will MSG you tonight... Have a skype channel? Really good discussion. Looking forward to working with you to make PFC a success going into the future.
Very good discussion yesterday. We would do anything that's required to keep the Idea of PFC intact... |
MoonEagle A
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:51:00 -
[105] - Quote
Is it true you are offering protection for ISK? |
edguy 111
Quebec United
The CORVOS
34
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:05:00 -
[106] - Quote
Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here.
i have a district on pfc and cant use it at intended because we are getting troll by dark legion...cant even put my timer at the time i want :( we created a channel for all pfc leaders to plan good fight but cant because DL keep attacking us....
minmatar logi at is finest~~~~~~~Edguy Quebec United,Ceo
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