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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2014.01.23 19:42:00 -
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The current state of PFC has been brought to the attention of Negative-Feedback.
It has been found that the current enforcement has become lacking due to a combination of a lack of resources and desire to deal with the unique challenges that PFC presents. Negative-Feedback has formed an exploratory committee to further investigate the state of Planet FIght Club and see what measures must be taken to bring PFC back to full operation. We appreciate the community's continued desire to work together to try and keep PFC operational, but it seems a firm hand may be needed to bring it back in step.
We ask for the current PFC land holders to mail "Kane Spero" in-game with their current concerns and thoughts as our investigation continues.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:34:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between.
One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:37:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I will mail on behalf of Top Men. Chill out Soraya, if you're doing stuff like this you don't have to shout **** out just do it for fucks sake. Also Kain Can you just get CBs back so we don't have to go through the logistical **** PFC raises? please like with a cherry on top... and sprinkles...or does CCP not want CBs back? or is it due to the fact that CBs were old FW? or can you not answer the question due to the NDA?
Honestly, also talking to Bane here as well, nothing would make me happier than a return of some form of corp battles with iteration to remove some of the issues that were prevalent before.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 06:43:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:True indeed, but without response here or on any of my 3 threads regarding the subject I'll never know 
I do think that corp battles should come back in some form, but at the same time I think we need to work as best we can with what we have.
TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I have a question.
If swamp bought a district, could we pull in alliance members, their players are generally on the same level as swamp and as far as I know, the only beta vets we have are either directors and ceos or very few and far between. One of the things we have seen as a problem is the extensive rule sets that have been created. Some rules are needed of course but this is New Eden and the hand holding should really be kept to a minimum. So once this is sorted we can do that? I'm asking because I don't want to get a district for our alliance members to use for training and find iv broken rules. We'll use it everyday or every two days. Its better than attacking corps and inevitably loosing for training and then have to spend months grinding that isk back to carry on. I used to think pfc was bs back when things were different but with the state pc is in, I think its a necessity. Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, just shoot me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero".
It does sound like there is at least one corp not contributing to PFC. Still more investigating needs to be done.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:46:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:Man this thread is hilarious. These are the same people who have been fighting for the corps breaking pfc rules on multiple occasions and now they are gonna police it. These are the people who helped a 3 man corp take a district from contract hunters and consistently ring for them every time they launch clones. You guys didnt even get the job yet and your already corrupt lmfao
PFC rules set by an organization that doesn't have the backing to actually enforce the rules they have set. You need to understand that we made PFC, and it has been unpleasant to watch it decay under the current rule. We'll continue collecting feedback, but it does seem fairly clear that the current enforcers aren't up for the task.
Many of those that have chosen to manage PFC have made the same mistake in making complicated rules that are nigh impossible to track, which results in endless complaints and finger-pointing on the forums. Again some rules have to be in place, but one simple thing needs to accomplished in managing FIght Club: have people fight.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:00:00 -
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I would like each corp currently on PFC to designate a point of contact and mail me at "Kane Spero" in-game. Please be sure to sure to put PFC in the subject line.
Traky78, I really see no issue with school corps being on PFC as long as they are active.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:12:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:heres an idea for PFC makes those district not generate money, i don't know if its a dumb idea probably is but might stop some corps from taking a district on PFC, or if CCP ever opened up more districts we could set up an entire system for PFC so more corps will have an opportunity to train for pc.
Passive ISK generation is a bad Idea but until a alternative comes there's nothing else. instead of a daily isk gain make it every three days, corp that have many district just gain isk and for what really? theres nothing in this game at the moment that corp can spend isk on
I think you may be on to something, but I think at the end of the day expecting mechanic changes for a player initiative isn't going to happen. It will be those involved in PFC that make those kinds of changes in effect depending on how PFC is operated.
The feedback so far has been very helpful. We may have a path here to restoring PFC to it's former glory and putting the power into the hands of those that are contributing members.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:33:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:How much passive isk is it per day per district? I think it's 110k ISK per clone. So 8.8m or 11m on a Production Facility per day. I could have swore it was reduced to 80k or 60k...
There were some plans that CCP FoxFour posted on the forums that would have reduced passive ISK, but they were never implemented.
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:09:00 -
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It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero".
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:01:00 -
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It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:10:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It has become clear that several corporations are attempting to perma lock their districts on PFC.
If there are corporations that would like to have a place on PFC and use it for its intended purpose please send a mail to "Kane Spero" or respond here. Swamp marines does and will definitely use it properly and death firm in our alliance wants one. I guarantee that they will be used properly.
Death Firm should be able to fill you in on some of the details, but it looks like there will some options lined up soon.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:52:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Kain Spero wrote:It seems like ideas are getting a bit more concrete. If you are a current land holder on PFC and would like to continue contributing to PFC please send me a mail in-game at "Kane Spero". Will MSG you tonight... Have a skype channel?
Really good discussion. Looking forward to working with you to make PFC a success going into the future.
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