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          Alternate Insano 
          Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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          I only play this game because I heard it's the only MMO worse than DCUO. It's not. DUST could actually be a fairly good game. Unfortunately it never will be. The formula the devs are following is total garbage. Nerf this, buff that. Introduce something new that makes everything released before completely useless. Sell equipment for USD that's ahead of what players using ingame currency can get.
  You see, this is how to make money from a game that they have to give away in order to get anyone to play it. Nobody that matters cares the game sucks. I can't imagine anyone in charge of DUST even plays it. It doesn't look like anyone who even likes gaming in general is in charge of this thing.
  If it wasn't free, there would be no DUST 514. 
  This being said, I personally see no solution in sight to the fact that the genius dev team has made every weapon but the rail rifle irrelevant. Why even have any other weapons as an option at this point? We've used four accounts to create a dozen alts to try different combinations and the results aren't that surprising.
  Snipers can hit 40 times in a match, do 5000+ damage and never get a kill, so sniper rifles need to go.
  Mass drivers and plasma cannons are laughable. I've played 6-8 hrs a day for the last couple weeks and have never been killed by one. I have a commando alt with the MD but it's the only one I've seen in game. Sadly I can get more kills with militia Locus grenades than by direct hits with the MD. Having an AoE weapon with no AoE and very little direct damage is pointless. Have yet to see anyone with the PC. Since both are taking up space, wave goodbye to each.
  Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD. 
  The Combat and Rail rifle have made the Laser, Assault, and Scrambler rifles woefully out-gunned. So delete all of these as well.
  There needs to be a cap on tanks in combat. 2 each for each side on the map at any time, for any game mode. This is only because the swarm launcher is so pathetic that you can't carry enough ammo to actually destroy a tank. Militia swarms should take out a militia tank in two shots. Since this will NEVER happen, swarms need to go.
  And this is just for starters. Cancel the new equipment in 1.8. Delete almost everything that is currently offered until only what's used the most is left. Then add new stuff, on an even level with aforementioned over-used gear. Stop offering AUR items, or put them at the same SP value as the ISK variants.
  I know that this will never happen, and there are now DUST fanboys vapor locking all over the globe because I dared say such things. Too bad, so sad. I can't wait for Star Citizen to come out. | 
      
      
      
          
          JL3Eleven 
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          Can I haz your ISK?
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          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR 
          F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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          Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.    are you stupid, or just trolling?
 
 
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          Alternate Insano 
          Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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          No, I use my ISK to buy dropships and then try air show maneuvers. I also enjoy driving tanks off cliffs into the redline, which is another expensive hobby. | 
      
      
      
          
          Darken-Soul 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.   are you stupid, or just trolling?  
  they are dumb. While fun they are not combat effective. I've been nova knives 5 times ever and that's being generous.
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          HYENAKILLER X 
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          This guy has never been killed by a mass driver? Lmao!
  You lost your forum priviledges kid.
  If you only knew....
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          Alternate Insano 
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          See? Like I said, fanboys. Can't possibly speak the truth about DUST being pure crap the devs have to give away without 'em coming out of the woodwork.
  I bet you use Nova knives, huh? And think it's actually balanced that you could take on a heavy/hmg and win? Like I said, they're stupid. Stop trying to be another game.
  Also, pub matches should only allow starter fit gear, there should be other tiers of matches for basic, adv, and proto gear, and one open tier for anyone to jump into with whatever they want to run.
  Plus, all players who were part of the old matches with 20-40k SP rewards need to be locked into a 'veterans' tier where they can't fight anyone but other 'veterans'. | 
      
      
      
          
          Onesimus Tarsus 
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          HYENAKILLER X wrote:This guy has never been killed by a mass driver? Lmao!
  You lost your forum priviledges kid.
  If you only knew....  
  I have been playing since Feb 2013, I've died to MDs about 8 times. NKs about 6.
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          Evolution-7 
          The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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          Alternate Insano wrote:I only play this game because I heard it's the only MMO worse than DCUO. It's not. DUST could actually be a fairly good game. Unfortunately it never will be. The formula the devs are following is total garbage. Nerf this, buff that. Introduce something new that makes everything released before completely useless. Sell equipment for USD that's ahead of what players using ingame currency can get.
  You see, this is how to make money from a game that they have to give away in order to get anyone to play it. Nobody that matters cares the game sucks. I can't imagine anyone in charge of DUST even plays it. It doesn't look like anyone who even likes gaming in general is in charge of this thing.
  If it wasn't free, there would be no DUST 514. 
  This being said, I personally see no solution in sight to the fact that the genius dev team has made every weapon but the rail rifle irrelevant. Why even have any other weapons as an option at this point? We've used four accounts to create a dozen alts to try different combinations and the results aren't that surprising.
  Snipers can hit 40 times in a match, do 5000+ damage and never get a kill, so sniper rifles need to go.
  Mass drivers and plasma cannons are laughable. I've played 6-8 hrs a day for the last couple weeks and have never been killed by one. I have a commando alt with the MD but it's the only one I've seen in game. Sadly I can get more kills with militia Locus grenades than by direct hits with the MD. Having an AoE weapon with no AoE and very little direct damage is pointless. Have yet to see anyone with the PC. Since both are taking up space, wave goodbye to each.
  Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD. 
  The Combat and Rail rifle have made the Laser, Assault, and Scrambler rifles woefully out-gunned. So delete all of these as well.
  There needs to be a cap on tanks in combat. 2 each for each side on the map at any time, for any game mode. This is only because the swarm launcher is so pathetic that you can't carry enough ammo to actually destroy a tank. Militia swarms should take out a militia tank in two shots. Since this will NEVER happen, swarms need to go.
  And this is just for starters. Cancel the new equipment in 1.8. Delete almost everything that is currently offered until only what's used the most is left. Then add new stuff, on an even level with aforementioned over-used gear. Stop offering AUR items, or put them at the same SP value as the ISK variants.
  I know that this will never happen, and there are now DUST fanboys vapor locking all over the globe because I dared say such things. Too bad, so sad. I can't wait for Star Citizen to come out.  
  I didn't touch the DUST forums for an entire 1 year and 3 months when i started playing. I suggest you actually PLAY dust and build your skills and knowledge without posting what you think within 10 days of playing.
 
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          Azura Sakura 
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          Onesimus Tarsus wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:This guy has never been killed by a mass driver? Lmao!
  You lost your forum priviledges kid.
  If you only knew....  I have been playing since Feb 2013, I've died to MDs about 8 times. NKs about 6.   I'm sure you were blown up a lot more when MD was the FOTM? | 
      
      
      
          
          Onesimus Tarsus 
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          Azura Sakura wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:This guy has never been killed by a mass driver? Lmao!
  You lost your forum priviledges kid.
  If you only knew....  I have been playing since Feb 2013, I've died to MDs about 8 times. NKs about 6.  I'm sure you were blown up a lot more when MD was the FOTM?   
  Nope.
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          bamboo x 
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          The OP is in a starter corp, guys. Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time on this thread. | 
      
      
      
          
          Arx Ardashir 
          Imperium Aeternum
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          Alternate Insano wrote:Plus, all players who were part of the old matches with 20-40k SP rewards need to be locked into a 'veterans' tier where they can't fight anyone but other 'veterans'.    The SP from those times was wiped out, and everyone started fresh in Chromosome, i.e. Open Beta where anyone could join.
  Also, confirming that writing off anyone who disgrees with you as "fanboy" is the way to win arguments.
  You know nothing, Alternate Snow.
 Here you can type your bio. 
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          Maken Tosch 
          Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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          Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.  
  You lost all credibility as soon as you said this. I'm a dedicated ninja knifer since closed beta and I know BS when I see posts like this.
 OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? 
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          Denak Kalamari 
          Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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          NPC corp bittervet alt is bitter.
  That said, singe the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
  EDIT:
 Arx Ardashir wrote:The SP from those times was wiped out, and everyone started fresh in Chromosome, i.e. Open Beta where anyone could join.  Not entirely through, closed beta people got a huge SP bonus, but otherwise everything was wiped.
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          Yagihige 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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          Alternate Insano wrote:Sell equipment for USD that's ahead of what players using ingame currency can get.
 
   
  You lost whatever credibility you had right here.
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          Reav Hannari 
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          Alternate Insano wrote:See? Like I said, fanboys. Can't possibly speak the truth about DUST being pure crap the devs have to give away without 'em coming out of the woodwork.
   
  https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
  Anybody that doesn't agree with you is a "fanboy" and isn't worthy of contributing to your thread?
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          Akdhar Saif 
          Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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          Dust is still in beta, hence the major bonus changes coming in 1.8 The devs are still learning to balance weapons/vehicles/suits. 1.7 buffed vehicles but nerfed AV, essentially double buffing vehicles. | 
      
      
      
          
          Leadfoot10 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          Your post has so much wrong with it, I don't even know where to start.... so I won't. | 
      
      
      
          
          Maken Tosch 
          Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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          Alternate Insano wrote:I bet you use Nova knives, huh? And think it's actually balanced that you could take on a heavy/hmg and win? Like I said, they're stupid. Stop trying to be another game.  
  The only thing that's unbalanced about the knives is that you can't sprint with the charge held. That's it. Also, don't compare nova knives in Dust to knives in CoD. I have played CoD for years and knifing in Dust is nothing like knifing in CoD.
  Again, I'm an expert knifer here since waaaaaaaaay back in closed beta. And by way back I mean "Replication" build back when knives were not even a sidearm and you weren't able to swipe without fully charging them first and they were so weak that a plastic butter knife would do more damage than they did back then.
  Nowadays, since Chromosome, I can one-hit kill most assaults with the nova knives as long as I play it right by flanking, hiding, and jumping people from behind where they least expect it. A fully trained and fitted Minmatar Scout Mk.0 fitted with Ishukone Nova Knives can deal at least 1200 HP damage in a single 1-sec attack. Unless you're a heavy, you're dead on the spot. Even then, a second charged hit will finish you off.
  And don't forget that when a skilled knifer catches you, it's usually from behind and without you noticing him. And by the time you realize what's going on, you're already down to few points of armor and all that's left to do to finish you off is with a Flay Lock pistol or a melee.
  Oh by the way, NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOAKS!
  Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread
 OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Learning Coalition College
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          Darken-Soul wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.   are you stupid, or just trolling?  they are dumb. While fun they are not combat effective. I've been nova knives 5 times ever and that's being generous.    Not combat effective? I've had instances where I've gotten the most kills in a battle using just knives.
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          Alternate Insano 
          Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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          Thank you, fanboys for not only making my point but for taking such offense. 
  I also love it that there's always the **** who has to say "I was here a year before I posted on the forums...."
  BIG DEAL I've been gaming for 30 years and know a **** game with a largely **** community when I see it.
  DUST is just like EVE. The devs don't stop to fix anything, and won't, just like with EVE. They'll just keep stampeding along releasing more and more of the same broken crap.
  Oh, btw, what's the average playerbase at any time? Has it -ever- broken 60k on? 
  COD is 60 bucks and there's hundreds of thousands on all the time.
  CCP is apparently having problems even giving DUST away for free. I'm so sure they'll keep pouring money into a project where the only happy players are the proto bags in pub matches. | 
      
      
      
          
          Alternate Insano 
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          Oh my God, seriously. You got the most kills in a battle using knives? This should not surprise me from a game where you can use the best sniper rifle in the game, shoot someone in the head 3 times from 200m , and have them turn around and two-hit you with a rail rifle. | 
      
      
      
          
          Joe Macro 
          Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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          LOL! Insano not only got a 99.9% accurate assessment of the game, but also how everyone would react. Narcissistic, noobish, & na+»ve. So awesome. :D | 
      
      
      
          
          Bethhy 
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          Darken-Soul wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.   are you stupid, or just trolling?  they are dumb. While fun they are not combat effective. I've been nova knives 5 times ever and that's being generous.   
 
  For a game that wanted to be a "Thinking mans shooter" "tactical gameplay" 
  Nova knifes never made much sense.. they are fun? but as far as a viable tactic in a "thinking man's shooter" its kinda laughable...
 
  Everyone should have a side combat knife for emergencies... in a CCP shooter? ahahahaha | 
      
      
      
          
          Jamie Insano 
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          So I just let someone unload a mass driver on me. All 6 shots, from about 30 meters It got my shields and maybe 50 armor points. Then I shot him with a rail rifle. Twice.
  I also got a bunch of sniper rifle kills earlier firing blindly into an area near an objective. Nobody on either team was near it. | 
      
      
      
          
          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR 
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          Bethhy wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.   are you stupid, or just trolling?  they are dumb. While fun they are not combat effective. I've been nova knives 5 times ever and that's being generous.   For a game that wanted to be a "Thinking mans shooter" "tactical gameplay"  Nova knifes never made much sense.. they are fun? but as far as a viable tactic in a "thinking man's shooter" its kinda laughable... Everyone should have a side combat knife for emergencies... in a CCP shooter? ahahahaha   you know alot of us dedicated knifers who top the boards almost every match would disagree.
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          low genius 
          The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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          OZAROW 
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          TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD.   are you stupid, or just trolling?   Shinobi event broke him down
 SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4 
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          Drud Green 
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          Can Dust be considered anything but a failure? A FREE game that never clocked more than 10k players at it's peak.......do you think any ex-dust dev would mention this pile of crap in a resume? Professional suicide. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jamie Insano 
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          @Drud HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
  I think having time in at McDonalds would look better on a job app than CCP.
  Furthermore, I am done using the term 'lag' in relation to the ******, glitchy, teleportation movement of players when the server breaks 20k people on.
  I have screaming fast internet and DUST is still like shooting at Nightcrawler from the X-Men. I turned down the output res on my console, set the detail to medium and it's no better.
  Oh, and, for the SIXTH TIME earlier I had my personal best game ever, only before the battle report came up, my screen told me a fatal error occurred and the game could not continue. Awesome.
  And to whomever says sniper rifles are fine....30 hit markers in the last match. 5000 damage on the report, only 3 kills. | 
      
      
      
          
          Iron Wolf Saber 
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          NKs stupid trying to be CoD?
  YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
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          Denak Kalamari 
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          Drud Green wrote:Can Dust be considered anything but a failure? A FREE game that never clocked more than 10k players at it's peak.......do you think any ex-dust dev would mention this pile of crap in a resume? Professional suicide.   I would have started to point out the glaring flaw in this argument, but then I remembered you're a bittervet troll. So nevermind.
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          Jamie Insano 
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          I don't even know what this bittervet insider crap is. You're an insider of one of the worst FPS games I've ever played. Good for you, you twerps have your own little labels for people who point out this game is crap.
  As for the troll thing, stop saying it. CCP might see and ACTUALLY PUT TROLLS IN THIS BROKEN CRAP GAME ALONG WITH THEIR STUPID KNIVES AND BUNNY HOPPING RIDICULOUSNESS | 
      
      
      
          
          Denak Kalamari 
          Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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          Jamie Insano wrote:I don't even know what this bittervet insider crap is. You're an insider of one of the worst FPS games I've ever played. Good for you, you twerps have your own little labels for people who point out this game is crap.
  As for the troll thing, stop saying it. CCP might see and ACTUALLY PUT TROLLS IN THIS BROKEN CRAP GAME ALONG WITH THEIR STUPID KNIVES AND BUNNY HOPPING RIDICULOUSNESS   Bittervet alt circumventing bans with more bittervet alts.
  Lol.
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          Teilka Darkmist 
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          Alternate Insano wrote:I only play this game because I heard it's the only MMO worse than DCUO. It's not. DUST could actually be a fairly good game. Unfortunately it never will be. The formula the devs are following is total garbage. Nerf this, buff that. Introduce something new that makes everything released before completely useless. Sell equipment for USD that's ahead of what players using ingame currency can get.  
  Aur equipment isn't better than isk equipment. Most of the stats are the same as at least one of the same level isk options except the Aur equipment will have a higher PG or CPU cost. Also, what they're adding in the patches and expansions are things that they've always intended to be in the game and they don't make everything released before useless. Everything CCP have put in the game has it's use.
 
 Alternate Insano wrote:Snipers can hit 40 times in a match, do 5000+ damage and never get a kill, so sniper rifles need to go.  
  Bad snipers can, yes. That's no reason to get rid of the sniper rifle. Good snipers get quite a few kills, not as many as the frontline types maybe, but they're not meant to get that many with a long ranged, high damage weapon.
  As to the rest of the gear, I'm not sure about it, I use Rail Rifles and Assault rifles as well, but I'm mostly a sniper (in a scout suit). I don't use Proto anything and I still manage to get kills. I don't use any vehicles either so I can't really say about those.
  Perhaps the problem you're having is because you're comparing one weapon to every other and expecting them to be the same. That's not how balancing works. Each weapon, each piece of equipment, vehicle and dropsuit has a role it was designed for. More importantly, it has it's own specific strengths and weaknesses.
  If you don't like the game, quit. There are plenty of us who enjoy the game, can see it's potential, know that CCP is one of the better game development companies out there when it comes to constantly trying to improve their games and listening to the players.
  Are there problems to be fixed? Yes, there are in any game. The devs are trying to fix what they can and keep adding and improving the rest of the game. But they're only human, you can't expect them to do everything all at once. If they concentrated on just rebalancing and fixing bugs, the game would stagnate, people would leave. If they concentrated on adding new stuff and not rebalancing to take the new things into account, the game would break and people would leave. 
  What they are doing now, the combination of fixing and adding to the game, is what has worked for 10 years in EVE Online. There are very few MMOs that have been around 10 years. None of them are as complex or, in my opinion, as enjoyable as EVE. And DUST is and was always meant to be a part of EVE (Check the logo at the top of the page, it's not DUST 514 it's EVE DUST 514)
 When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own. 
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          Reav Hannari wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:See? Like I said, fanboys. Can't possibly speak the truth about DUST being pure crap the devs have to give away without 'em coming out of the woodwork.
   https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominemAnybody that doesn't agree with you is a "fanboy" and isn't worthy of contributing to your thread?  
 
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          Jamie Insano wrote:I don't even know what this bittervet insider crap is. You're an insider of one of the worst FPS games I've ever played. Good for you, you twerps have your own little labels for people who point out this game is crap.  
 
  Bittervet is, quite simply a shortening of Bitter Veteran. It's used to designate people who have been playing for a little while and who rant and rave about how the game's been broken without actually adding anything usefull. So in those terms, and considering Dust has only been released less than a year, someone who is part of a group (presumably) that has made four accounts and a dozen alts and had the chance to train them all to a level that supposedly allows you to compare all the weapons fairly (Which means you'd have to have all the Proto weapons across the board and all the supporting skills for each one to max) yet rants as you did in the OP qualifies as a bittervet.
  Regarding your comments about 1.8, what's coming there is a lot of the racial variations of the equipment that's coming in the game, with bonuses that make sense in the lore for those races, changes to exisiting equipment that takes into account the incoming equipment and changes bonuses so that those suits also fit the lore that has been in place for the game for over a decade.
  Suggesting that they scrap all the weapons except Combat and rail rifles is clearly not being helpfull at all and capping anything, is not practical considering each player has paid for their items with one of the in game currencies themselves, you're essentially telling people they can't play the play style they personally want to unless, in the case of tanks, they happen to be one of the first two people to deploy a tank.
 When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own. 
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          Denak Kalamari wrote:NPC corp bittervet alt is bitter. That said, singe the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? EDIT: Arx Ardashir wrote:The SP from those times was wiped out, and everyone started fresh in Chromosome, i.e. Open Beta where anyone could join.  Not entirely true, closed beta people got a huge SP bonus, but otherwise everything was wiped.  
  Huge SP bonus?? LOL how??? When?? somewhere in the 12 days between Jan 10th and Jan 22nd?
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          STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. 
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          Your ideas are honestly terrible. I am so sorry you don't enjoy Dust but do you seriously think a "DELETE DELETE DELETE" Mind side is better than a slow process of rebalancing, nerfs and buffs?
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          Alternate Insano wrote:I only play this game because I heard it's the only MMO worse than DCUO. It's not. DUST could actually be a fairly good game. Unfortunately it never will be. The formula the devs are following is total garbage. Nerf this, buff that. Introduce something new that makes everything released before completely useless. Sell equipment for USD that's ahead of what players using ingame currency can get.
  You see, this is how to make money from a game that they have to give away in order to get anyone to play it. Nobody that matters cares the game sucks. I can't imagine anyone in charge of DUST even plays it. It doesn't look like anyone who even likes gaming in general is in charge of this thing.
  If it wasn't free, there would be no DUST 514. 
  This being said, I personally see no solution in sight to the fact that the genius dev team has made every weapon but the rail rifle irrelevant. Why even have any other weapons as an option at this point? We've used four accounts to create a dozen alts to try different combinations and the results aren't that surprising.
  Snipers can hit 40 times in a match, do 5000+ damage and never get a kill, so sniper rifles need to go.
  Mass drivers and plasma cannons are laughable. I've played 6-8 hrs a day for the last couple weeks and have never been killed by one. I have a commando alt with the MD but it's the only one I've seen in game. Sadly I can get more kills with militia Locus grenades than by direct hits with the MD. Having an AoE weapon with no AoE and very little direct damage is pointless. Have yet to see anyone with the PC. Since both are taking up space, wave goodbye to each.
  Nova knives are stupid. Stop trying to be COD. 
  The Combat and Rail rifle have made the Laser, Assault, and Scrambler rifles woefully out-gunned. So delete all of these as well.
  There needs to be a cap on tanks in combat. 2 each for each side on the map at any time, for any game mode. This is only because the swarm launcher is so pathetic that you can't carry enough ammo to actually destroy a tank. Militia swarms should take out a militia tank in two shots. Since this will NEVER happen, swarms need to go.
  And this is just for starters. Cancel the new equipment in 1.8. Delete almost everything that is currently offered until only what's used the most is left. Then add new stuff, on an even level with aforementioned over-used gear. Stop offering AUR items, or put them at the same SP value as the ISK variants.
  I know that this will never happen, and there are now DUST fanboys vapor locking all over the globe because I dared say such things. Too bad, so sad. I can't wait for Star Citizen to come out.   git gud
 Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! 
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          He has a point, and all of you guys know it. We just love the game too much to admit he's right?! Dust has amazing potential to be truly groundbreaking, but destiny may very well do what ccp won't do?! Too bad really?! Stop coming to the forums giving guys a hard time because they have the balls to say what we were all thinking! +1 it, and maybe ccp will get the message! Then we could get the game we all want!
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          Alternate Insano wrote:Thank you, fanboys for not only making my point but for taking such offense. 
  I also love it that there's always the **** who has to say "I was here a year before I posted on the forums...."
  BIG DEAL I've been gaming for 30 years and know a **** game with a largely **** community when I see it.
  DUST is just like EVE. The devs don't stop to fix anything, and won't, just like with EVE. They'll just keep stampeding along releasing more and more of the same broken crap.
  Oh, btw, what's the average playerbase at any time? Has it -ever- broken 60k on? 
  COD is 60 bucks and there's hundreds of thousands on all the time.
  CCP is apparently having problems even giving DUST away for free. I'm so sure they'll keep pouring money into a project where the only happy players are the proto bags in pub matches.   Dust only has 5k players on at a single time usually. If it ever hit 60k the game must have been made not poop. | 
      
      
      
          
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          Yes, the game is in bad shape and has been since Uprising 1.0. I'll tell you the same thing I tell all the other new players: Turn on passive SP, come back in a few months. Maybe the game will be better by then or maybe not but at least you'll have a bunch of SP saved up by then and a lot less cortisol.
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          What kind of answer is 'Turn on the Passive SP and come back in a few months?' I honestly appreciate the sentiment, but GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE FUN THE FIRST TIME, not months down the road.
  Plus, if I went away and came back, nothing would be fixed. Read the forums, nothing ever gets fixed, the issues just keep snowballing.
  But, no matter. Every time someone complains about the game, you few guys that cause all the problems just jump right on the CCP bandwagon and chase the new player off. I'm sure that will fix everything.
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