DUST Search - CCP: Punish button for bad needle users.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Some people complain about being unable to decline revives, and understandably so; you could be just about to select your respawn location, and then suddenly get injected back to life right in the middle of a fire fight only to die again. Accept/deny options are needed for when being injected.

Medics also need to know that risking their lives to revive someone won't be for nothing simply because someone selected deny, so they must be rewarded regardless.

The option to accept/deny should not disappear until the bleedout timer hits 0. This way mercs in the bleedout state would be in control of if and when they want to revive instead of springing back up at an inconvenient time.

The injection should add 5 seconds to the bleedout timer to give the downed player time to decide to accept or deny the revive.

To prevent abuse by WP farmers, selecting the deny option should automatically bleed you out. If you have been injected and have selected neither accept or deny, then you should no longer be injectable. These are so a medic can't just keep injecting your dying body to get more and more WP.

I want.

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Incin3rate Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:59:00 - [1] - Quote If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1206	Posted - 2014.01.23 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 65	Posted - 2014.01.23 19:08:00 - [3] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks. As Soraya said, the problem isn't them trying to pick you up. The problem is you HAVING to get up without the option whenever your needled.
Incin3rate New Age Empire. 11	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:12:00 - [4] - Quote I would be happy with either or both options. :)
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2329	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:16:00 - [5] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2329	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:18:00 - [6] - Quote Dustbunny Durrr wrote: Incin3rate wrote: If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks. As Soraya said, the problem isn't them trying to pick you up. The problem is you HAVING to get up without the option whenever your needled. If by that you mean literally lying on the floor then it makes sense but no living being, not even a c!one can choose to remain deadf lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 80	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:19:00 - [7] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks. How do you know their motivations? Are they saving your team a clone or farming WP? If you want to die is it because your own selfish reasons, costing your team a clone to preserve your kdr? Shouldn't you be punished for that other than the other way around?
Galthur Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 274	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Incin3rate wrote: If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks. How do you know their motivations? Are they saving your team a clone or farming WP? If you want to die is it because your own selfish reasons, costing your team a clone to preserve your kdr? Shouldn't you be punished for that other than the other way around? When I was forced into the open by a heavy and there's 7 guys and a heavy watching my body, don't revive with a miltia needle... Get recruits for me, receive millions of ISK. Buying BPO Codes. [Forum Level: 8] [Scamming Level: 3]
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1581	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:27:00 - [9] - Quote They only get WP the first time they stick you. If they stick you a second time it's because they're trying to save you from having to buy a whole new suit.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 144	Posted - 2014.01.23 20:30:00 - [10] - Quote Stay down until clicked "accept revive". Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!

Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 89	Posted - 2014.01.23 21:01:00 - [11] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? Implants that bind the suit to the clone's brain and allow a reject command to be issued to nanites? Or maybe a cortex bomb that goes off if you don't want to be revived? It's really not that hard, if you even need to justify it at all. Anyway, punish is a bad idea. It will lead to all the logis everywhere being kicked after a few minutes of combat, because shitgiggles decide to punish at all times. Edit: Actually, a cortex bomb would be a good idea. I want a suicide button. I recently got stuck in the environment as a heavy and only managed to escape because I had a forge gun and the splash was strong enough to reach me.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1209	Posted - 2014.01.23 21:02:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? This is one of those things where game mechanics needs to trump anything else. Drop uplink tech makes almost no sense in the scope of New Eden, but it's a game mechanic that's important. And I have faith in CCP's ability to write a really lame lore that explains it if they need to. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 393	Posted - 2014.01.23 21:52:00 - [13] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? youre not dead your incapacitared, but you dont stay dead you link into a new clone Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 393	Posted - 2014.01.23 21:53:00 - [14] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? Implants that bind the suit to the clone's brain and allow a reject command to be issued to nanites? Or maybe a cortex bomb that goes off if you don't want to be revived? It's really not that hard, if you even need to justify it at all. Anyway, punish is a bad idea. It will lead to all the logis everywhere being kicked after a few minutes of combat, because shitgiggles decide to punish at all times. Edit: Actually, a cortex bomb would be a good idea. I want a suicide button. I recently got stuck in the environment as a heavy and only managed to escape because I had a forge gun and the splash was strong enough to reach me. there is a suicide button Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2014.01.23 21:55:00 - [15] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: there is a suicide button Where is it? I read about it, but I found it nowhere in the game when I was stuck.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1581	Posted - 2014.01.23 22:24:00 - [16] - Quote If you're stuck open your map, press l1 to open the neocom and then commit sewerside with the appropriate button.
Trey Hardin The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 57	Posted - 2014.01.23 22:24:00 - [17] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: there is a suicide button Where is it? I read about it, but I found it nowhere in the game when I was stuck. press the start button and it should be under the top tab. I live and die by The Logi Code
xXCleopatra FlippantXx Red Star. EoN. 31	Posted - 2014.01.23 23:34:00 - [18] - Quote Incin3rate wrote: If a merc picks you up in a fire fight multiple times just for there own selfish WP, I feel there should be some kind repercussion. Thanks. is this about the K/D? I think thats a small problem compared to the risks of malpractice implementing something like that
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 187	Posted - 2014.01.23 23:38:00 - [19] - Quote This is about KDR. Move along folks, nothing to see here. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8353	Posted - 2014.01.23 23:39:00 - [20] - Quote A much less crazy, and more reasonable solution https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111016&find=unread KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Some people complain about being unable to decline revives, and understandably so; you could be just about to select your respawn location, and then suddenly get injected back to life right in the middle of a fire fight only to die again. Accept/deny options are needed for when being injected. Medics also need to know that risking their lives to revive someone won't be for nothing simply because someone selected deny, so they must be rewarded regardless. The option to accept/deny should not disappear until the bleedout timer hits 0. This way mercs in the bleedout state would be in control of if and when they want to revive instead of springing back up at an inconvenient time. The injection should add 5 seconds to the bleedout timer to give the downed player time to decide to accept or deny the revive. To prevent abuse by WP farmers, selecting the deny option should automatically bleed you out. If you have been injected and have selected neither accept or deny, then you should no longer be injectable. These are so a medic can't just keep injecting your dying body to get more and more WP. I want. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Incin3rate New Age Empire. 12	Posted - 2014.01.24 00:35:00 - [21] - Quote self righteous guy wrote: How do you know their motivations? Are they saving your team a clone or farming WP? If you want to die is it because your own selfish reasons, costing your team a clone to preserve your kdr? Shouldn't you be punished for that other than the other way around? You know exactly what I am talking, don't play stupid, it's unbecoming.
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 533	Posted - 2014.01.24 00:47:00 - [22] - Quote Also there is no reason to have the game record a death when you are revived. Obviously it's just a kdr status thing, but that doesn't mean it's not annoying as heck.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 233	Posted - 2014.01.24 00:51:00 - [23] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The inherent problem here, is that you shouldn't be forced to get up when someone needles you. CCP badly needs to implement an Accept/Reject option. And how exactly does a dead clone decide to stay dead until further notice? The clone isn't dead - it's dying, the nanites fix the damage present in dying clones but you can't be revived from explosives or headshots or after someone shoots the wounded clone.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 356	Posted - 2014.01.24 02:30:00 - [24] - Quote Or, don't reward players for reviving someone that goes down within 5 seconds, ya gotta make sure they stay alive if ya want the points. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 45	Posted - 2014.01.26 13:01:00 - [25] - Quote Or... Just make the already available "request help" button mandatory. That way, well meaning Logis Won't have their time/suits wasted chasing phantom heals and dead clones won't have to be resurrected if they don't want to be. Solved.


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