DUST Search - CLOAK STATS!

Piraten Hovnoret wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Piraten Hovnoret wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

G-scout:

Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? *shrugs*

Question:

Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game.

On a side note:

The focused scanner is only 20 dB now.

{edit>>> Ooo, scratch that first one, for got to do the math with the new CPU/pg stats.

Do one even need a proto cloak?
As a G scout you go in there do your **** and hit cloak and relocate... The basic will do that 4 you

I spend a lot of time at the backs of large groups of reds, picking them off one at a time. Some times I spend minutes on end in the same general location, killing the ones that straggle outside the group vision. Once I am spotted usually only one or two come after me the first or second time. It is only when the group gets so pissed off at me, and decides to focus all their attention on me, or decides that that particular position is not worth dealing with me that I feel the need to move on. My intention for the cloak is to use it to be able to better bait the players that come after me, so I'll need as much as I can get.

And you need more then 30sec to do that ?

30 sec I can sprint like 400 meters or so. I rather have the faster cool down so I can fire it of again and again.

Oh well we al will c what tactics comes out of this =ƒÿ£

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NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 51	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:50:00 - [1] - Quote now have fun and remember, to clean up after.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 411	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:52:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah! Party at the Penthouse! [Skate 3] Don't look him in the eye, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!!! I specialize in ridiculousness. Back off my Incubus.
Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 340	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:54:00 - [3] - Quote BY JOVE "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1696	Posted - 2014.01.22 05:55:00 - [4] - Quote Its legit everyone go ahead and click it. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6057	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:02:00 - [5] - Quote These look good, but I feel they need to be a little higher. To really make them an equipment item that is difficult to fit. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 485	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:02:00 - [6] - Quote Can't shoot while cloaked.... :(( Oh well.. Btw anyone think the times are too long? I'm probably going to stick with adv cloak because 60 sec is More than enough time to get out/in. Btw a standard cloak is going to be 40 CPU and about 9 pg on a proto scout GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 53	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:03:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: These look good, but I feel they need to be a little higher. To really make them an equipment item that is difficult to fit. Yea, and 4 seconds cooldown without a cooldown skill is bad
Geo MERCEDES Daft Punk Fan Club 1	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:07:00 - [8] - Quote I can feel the plasma cannon becoming relevant...
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 643	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:10:00 - [9] - Quote What happened to militia tier drop uplinks? they aren't listed? "Because beer, that's why."
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 53	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:10:00 - [10] - Quote Geo MERCEDES wrote: I can feel the plasma cannon becoming relevant... I can feel my nova knives becoming relavent.

Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6526	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:26:00 - [11] - Quote Key Image to Focus On: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/forums/cloaks18.jpg CCP Saberwing https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137525&find=unread#post1750909 Quote: There will be more details to come - but after discussion with the CPM, CCP Remnant and Wolfman decided to go with implementing a design that will mean you are not able to fire while cloaked. This was something that the Community / CPM seemed fairly keen on and Cloaking will be used primarily as a relocation / movement tool. We're still working out the kinks and nothing is final, but just to let you guys know that we love the feedback and I promise you that we're crawling through your posts. :) OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Sgt Buttscratch 1363	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:33:00 - [12] - Quote 360 degree Nyain Scan GONE, hell yeah. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3094	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:34:00 - [13] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: 360 degree Nyain Scan GONE, hell yeah. Nerfing nyain san one patch at a time. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2019	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:35:00 - [14] - Quote Oh this is for real Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
8213 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1435	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:46:00 - [15] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: 360 degree Nyain Scan GONE, hell yeah. Nerfing nyain san one patch at a time. Its my honest opinion they were the reasons behind nerfs such as: contact nades, mass drivers, flaylocks, tac ARs, equipment lag, and soon to be scanners. Fish in a bucket!
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6527	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:49:00 - [16] - Quote 8213 wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: 360 degree Nyain Scan GONE, hell yeah. Nerfing nyain san one patch at a time. Its my honest opinion they were the reasons behind nerfs such as: contact nades, mass drivers, flaylocks, tac ARs, equipment lag, and soon to be scanners. Don't forget Bad Furry. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 563	Posted - 2014.01.22 06:56:00 - [17] - Quote Grenade throwing and equipment tossing... Newberries who very specifically CAN't fit a cloak. So much ???'s Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:36:00 - [18] - Quote G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. {:)}{3GÇó>
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3107	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:38:00 - [19] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note the focused scanner is only 20 dB now. Minnie scout has to put a complex PG to fit it. No matter what i think every suit is going to have to an upgrade to fit it. I'm fine with it as I have a CPU upgrade currently in one of my low slots. In the new build it'll just be swapped out for a PG upgrade. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2076	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:42:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: These look good, but I feel they need to be a little higher. To really make them an equipment item that is difficult to fit. And at the same time lower the scouts requirements. I hear you. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

mollerz Minja Scouts 2076	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:45:00 - [21] - Quote the cloak duration is too short. it needs to allow a scout to run far distances between objectives, dodge crazy ass ****, and then move on.. all the while being tactical. Sure, there should sometimes, under heavy pressure, be a duress on that timer. But 80s isn't enough time to travel. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6062	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:47:00 - [22] - Quote mollerz wrote: the cloak duration is too short. it needs to allow a scout to run far distances between objectives, dodge crazy ass ****, and then move on.. all the while being tactical. Sure, there should sometimes, under heavy pressure, be a duress on that timer. But 80s isn't enough time to travel. Wait but I though running everywhere was OP? 80 sec is more than enough time to sneak into a good position, pick off 1 or two enemies, and run and hide before re cloaking. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 07:56:00 - [23] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note the focused scanner is only 20 dB now. Minnie scout has to put a complex PG to fit it. No matter what i think every suit is going to have to an upgrade to fit it. I'm fine with it as I have a CPU upgrade currently in one of my low slots. In the new build it'll just be swapped out for a PG upgrade. Nah, still had to give up my kin cat for the CPU chip. There's no way I'm giving up my allotek nano. There probably be there build I have with it though {:)}{3GÇó>
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:24:00 - [24] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: [quote=Son-Of A-Gun] Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. So, if this is correct, then that means that the Gal focused scanner will be scanning at 15 dB, and in order to beat that, a Gal scout would have to equip any cloak and a comp dampener, or two comp dampeners, giving a Gal scout a profile of 14.26, and only a cloak of comp dampener to beat a focused scanner held by any other suit, for a scan profile of 18.22. This seems fair. {:)}{3GÇó>
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 239	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:28:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: mollerz wrote: the cloak duration is too short. it needs to allow a scout to run far distances between objectives, dodge crazy ass **, and then move on.. all the while being tactical. Sure, there should sometimes, under heavy pressure, be a duress on that timer. But 80s isn't enough time to travel. Wait but I though running everywhere was OP? 80 sec is more than enough time to sneak into a good position, pick off 1 or two enemies, and run and hide before re cloaking. Bro even 30sec a scout can ** off to about 300 meters War never changes
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:36:00 - [26] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: True Adamance wrote: mollerz wrote: the cloak duration is too short. it needs to allow a scout to run far distances between objectives, dodge crazy ass **, and then move on.. all the while being tactical. Sure, there should sometimes, under heavy pressure, be a duress on that timer. But 80s isn't enough time to travel. Wait but I though running everywhere was OP? 80 sec is more than enough time to sneak into a good position, pick off 1 or two enemies, and run and hide before re cloaking. Bro even 30sec a scout can ** off to about 300 meters I'm wondering, will it work like stamina, or will it have some kind of activation/deactivation cost. If I decloak after 20 seconds of being cloaked does that mean that I can immediately recloak to use the remaining 60 seconds. {:)}{3GÇó>
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3107	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:41:00 - [27] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: True Adamance wrote: mollerz wrote: the cloak duration is too short. it needs to allow a scout to run far distances between objectives, dodge crazy ass **, and then move on.. all the while being tactical. Sure, there should sometimes, under heavy pressure, be a duress on that timer. But 80s isn't enough time to travel. Wait but I though running everywhere was OP? 80 sec is more than enough time to sneak into a good position, pick off 1 or two enemies, and run and hide before re cloaking. Bro even 30sec a scout can ** off to about 300 meters I'm wondering, will it work like stamina, or will it have some kind of activation/deactivation cost. If I decloak after 20 seconds of being cloaked does that mean that I can immediately recloak to use the remaining 60 seconds. it will work like your stamina. it'll deplete while in use and recharge while not in use. It won't be a single use then cooldown. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 239	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:54:00 - [28] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. {edit>>> Ooo, scratch that first one, for got to do the math with the new CPU/pg stats. Do one even need a proto cloak? As a G scout you go in there do your **** and hit cloak and relocate... The basic will do that 4 you War never changes
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 09:15:00 - [29] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. {edit>>> Ooo, scratch that first one, for got to do the math with the new CPU/pg stats. Do one even need a proto cloak? As a G scout you go in there do your **** and hit cloak and relocate... The basic will do that 4 you I spend a lot of time at the backs of large groups of reds, picking them off one at a time. Some times I spend minutes on end in the same general location, killing the ones that straggle outside the group vision. Once I am spotted usually only one or two come after me the first or second time. It is only when the group gets so pissed off at me, and decides to focus all their attention on me, or decides that that particular position is not worth dealing with me that I feel the need to move on. My intention for the cloak is to use it to be able to better bait the players that come after me, so I'll need as much as I can get. {:)}{3GÇó>
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 158	Posted - 2014.01.22 09:41:00 - [30] - Quote ty

Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 239	Posted - 2014.01.22 11:39:00 - [31] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. {edit>>> Ooo, scratch that first one, for got to do the math with the new CPU/pg stats. Do one even need a proto cloak? As a G scout you go in there do your **** and hit cloak and relocate... The basic will do that 4 you I spend a lot of time at the backs of large groups of reds, picking them off one at a time. Some times I spend minutes on end in the same general location, killing the ones that straggle outside the group vision. Once I am spotted usually only one or two come after me the first or second time. It is only when the group gets so pissed off at me, and decides to focus all their attention on me, or decides that that particular position is not worth dealing with me that I feel the need to move on. My intention for the cloak is to use it to be able to better bait the players that come after me, so I'll need as much as I can get. And you need more then 30sec to do that ? 30 sec I can sprint like 400 meters or so. I rather have the faster cool down so I can fire it of again and again. Oh well we al will c what tactics comes out of this =ƒÿ£ War never changes
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4108	Posted - 2014.01.22 11:46:00 - [32] - Quote True Adamance wrote: These look good, but I feel they need to be a little higher. To really make them an equipment item that is difficult to fit. it just never stops. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1487	Posted - 2014.01.22 11:51:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: 360 degree Nyain Scan GONE, hell yeah. About friggin time also its nice to see the Dust Scan247 is also gone, now with actual delays inbetween scans. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 684	Posted - 2014.01.22 11:56:00 - [34] - Quote Not sure if this was said here yet (posted after #6) but the cooldown timer on the cloak is actually more like a power bar so as it is used it will decrease but once you deactivate it, it will begin recharging from were you stopped. This means if you use cover you can quickly deactivate and recharge your cloak before continuing. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1004	Posted - 2014.01.22 19:38:00 - [35] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: G-scout: Had to get rid of my comp kin cat and equip a comp CPU upgrade, in order fit a comp cloak on my gk.0. I thought these things were supposed to be cheap for scouts? shrugs Question: Am i reading that right; Is that a 25% reduction to profile? So, equipping a cloak is also like having a comp Dampener? Ok I'm game. On a side note: The focused scanner is only 20 dB now. {edit>>> Ooo, scratch that first one, for got to do the math with the new CPU/pg stats. Do one even need a proto cloak? As a G scout you go in there do your **** and hit cloak and relocate... The basic will do that 4 you I spend a lot of time at the backs of large groups of reds, picking them off one at a time. Some times I spend minutes on end in the same general location, killing the ones that straggle outside the group vision. Once I am spotted usually only one or two come after me the first or second time. It is only when the group gets so pissed off at me, and decides to focus all their attention on me, or decides that that particular position is not worth dealing with me that I feel the need to move on. My intention for the cloak is to use it to be able to better bait the players that come after me, so I'll need as much as I can get. And you need more then 30sec to do that ? 30 sec I can sprint like 400 meters or so. I rather have the faster cool down so I can fire it of again and again. Oh well we al will c what tactics comes out of this =ƒÿ£ Some people are pretty slow a tracking me down, or moving far enough away from the group to where I can kill them without notice. Plus, some times I bet swarmed by a very angry group of 8 to 10 reds all coming at me from a 180 degree angle. May not sound like it but some times this is tough to escape from. It'd be great if I could effectively wait this mob out invisible in some obscure corner, maybe even kill a few mor while they look for me. {:)}{3GÇó>


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