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Rami Hamilo wrote:

Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:

The major problem I see from this is not so much the specialisation of the suits-> equipment.

I can see Cal and Amarr logi's taking multiple hives/uplinks - making them work more effectively. They are after all the more 'combat' races
The Gal and Min logi's can be counted on for scans / reps, making decent intel/medics.

Remember that since they're getting a reduction to the fitting cost of equipment then they can balance out inadequacies by fitting better equipment. (Something I wish I could do more now) so in a way kinda evens out.

The problem I do have is other classes making use of equipment will be severely hampered. Someone specialising in a assault suit wanting to place uplinks at the start of the battle will have to compromise his fit even more to get the same effect as now.
Scouts may also suffer this problem if they want to have a cloak as well (depending on the visual effectiveness of the cloak. If it is good then the scout can sacrifice protection for good equipment) a basic stable uplink simple won't cut it, even behind the lines - 15s 10 spawns = may as well just hack a CRU.

I'm not a big fan of over specializing. For one, we have yet to see if each faction has its own variant of each equipment available on the LP store or if there will be a Player Market so that those that don't run Amarr or Caldari FW (Because, let's face it, people will still run Gallente and Minmatar because they still have the best LP stuff) can get the equipment. Also, just as you said, it will severely hamper everyone else and reduce almost all equipment to being a logi only thing.

What's that, you have zero levels into any Logi suit? Sucks for you. Better hope there's a Caldari and Amaar Logi on your team or else you're screwed. All the enemy team has to do to win in 1.8 is hope there's no Caldair/Amaar logi (proto level) and blow up/continually hack the CRU/Supply depots (Or blow them up), which will be easy since there will most likely be tons of Minmatar Scouts running around, and just redline you.

Again, most logis will agree with me, if they roll this out, the logi role will most suredly die and I will run blueprint fittings and sit on any SP I gain.

"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"

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Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 755	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:10:00 - [1] - Quote If, as you say, this will work like a stamina bar then I say this is amazing. With careful timing we can really limit our exposure, its not just a tool to hide indefinitely, you need to time it right - just like managing your sprint over distances. I'm a little worried about the ability to fit these cloaks, but then I'm used to my current low stats. That said I am concerned for new players. A basic cloak will eat up pretty much all the suit's systems. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 780	Posted - 2014.01.30 08:36:00 - [2] - Quote The major problem I see from this is not so much the specialisation of the suits-> equipment. I can see Cal and Amarr logi's taking multiple hives/uplinks - making them work more effectively. They are after all the more 'combat' races The Gal and Min logi's can be counted on for scans / reps, making decent intel/medics. Remember that since they're getting a reduction to the fitting cost of equipment then they can balance out inadequacies by fitting better equipment. (Something I wish I could do more now) so in a way kinda evens out. The problem I do have is other classes making use of equipment will be severely hampered. Someone specialising in a assault suit wanting to place uplinks at the start of the battle will have to compromise his fit even more to get the same effect as now. Scouts may also suffer this problem if they want to have a cloak as well (depending on the visual effectiveness of the cloak. If it is good then the scout can sacrifice protection for good equipment) a basic stable uplink simple won't cut it, even behind the lines - 15s 10 spawns = may as well just hack a CRU. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 781	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:32:00 - [3] - Quote Rami Hamilo wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: The major problem I see from this is not so much the specialisation of the suits-> equipment. I can see Cal and Amarr logi's taking multiple hives/uplinks - making them work more effectively. They are after all the more 'combat' races The Gal and Min logi's can be counted on for scans / reps, making decent intel/medics. Remember that since they're getting a reduction to the fitting cost of equipment then they can balance out inadequacies by fitting better equipment. (Something I wish I could do more now) so in a way kinda evens out. The problem I do have is other classes making use of equipment will be severely hampered. Someone specialising in a assault suit wanting to place uplinks at the start of the battle will have to compromise his fit even more to get the same effect as now. Scouts may also suffer this problem if they want to have a cloak as well (depending on the visual effectiveness of the cloak. If it is good then the scout can sacrifice protection for good equipment) a basic stable uplink simple won't cut it, even behind the lines - 15s 10 spawns = may as well just hack a CRU. I'm not a big fan of over specializing. For one, we have yet to see if each faction has its own variant of each equipment available on the LP store or if there will be a Player Market so that those that don't run Amarr or Caldari FW (Because, let's face it, people will still run Gallente and Minmatar because they still have the best LP stuff) can get the equipment. Also, just as you said, it will severely hamper everyone else and reduce almost all equipment to being a logi only thing. What's that, you have zero levels into any Logi suit? Sucks for you. Better hope there's a Caldari and Amaar Logi on your team or else you're screwed. All the enemy team has to do to win in 1.8 is hope there's no Caldair/Amaar logi (proto level) and blow up/continually hack the CRU/Supply depots (Or blow them up), which will be easy since there will most likely be tons of Minmatar Scouts running around, and just redline you. Again, most logis will agree with me, if they roll this out, the logi role will most suredly die and I will run blueprint fittings and sit on any SP I gain. Actually this made me think CCP was planning to add a passive bonus to the equipment skills. I If passive skills could = bringing equipment to current levels it would make it more accessible to other classes and give all logi's the ability to perform well outside of their allotted racial bonuses. Scanners do need a reduction, maybe not quite to this degree. The cooldowns are perhaps a little excessive so a passive bonus there would help. Not enough to scan someone indefinitely but enough to give a skilled user an edge. I also liked the idea floating around to enable us to hack equipment. An assault that took an objective that is low on ammo could hack a hive to replenish his stock / a scout can hack enemies own uplinks and use them against them. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"