These capsuleers serve the Empire of their own accord...they are somewhat afforded....exceptions to Imperial law.

Doesn't mean I agree with them. However there is no law preventing the whipping of slaves, only ones that prevent excessive violence and mistreatment.

So you just kinda slept through all of this?

And I'll whip them if I need to. Back and forth be it pleasing to the Lord. They'll only YOLO if we can't save their soul. We do what we must with any of our tools. By Lasers, Whips, and Swag we will redeem the universe.

*slowly begins to clap* Congradulations on further proving your a unreliable source & a possible heretic.

1st off I already explained whipping so I'll just skip that somewhat. Whipping is not pleasing to God - are you trying to make out The Amarr God to be a sicko physco that enjoys watching pain & suffering? No - he does not find it "pleasing" it is a means of absolving of sin not a pleasantry.

Also your.... lol - yigdy yo yo yo Minmitar, bondocks, justin beiber, Miley swag reference term "YOLO" has literally no meaning here or did you forget that your a clone & the exchanging of conciousness technology already?

Regarding "Reclaiming" if you read the lore you'd know The Amarr, The Theology Council, Amarr military, and The Amarr nobility (going up to The Heirs and Emperor &/or Empress as well as The Speaker Of Truths) have had varying takes & interruptation of Reclaiming. Reclaiming is just fine depending on how it's done & why.

Lastly - that Link LOL just further proved how unreliable & near heretical you are here. It's a Link to a EVE side forum post (not a Dust side forum post mind you) of Amarr victory nothing more. It is compleetely unrelated to Amarr Lore, scripture, law or culture & has literally no basis here in this conversation.

Last I checked you are hardly on enough to do much for the Amarr Empire in FW nor have I've seen you once fighting for Amarr or in a certain famous official Amarr FW channel. Haven't seen you LFSing, RFing, requesting EVE support, getting support or anything much beyond this disgraceful posting.

I have been around much longer fighting for The Amarr Empire as often as possible then you (which is a Fact I add) & i'm pretty sure my Amarr standing is alot more then yours due to that.

But you are not beyond forgiving I suppose.... So - as I've said before, refine youself as a proper Amarrian & then we'll see....

And absolving someone of sin is not pleasing to the Lord? If the means were not pleasing to God he would have given us other ways. We are bound to the dance that has been choreographed. Embrace it and rejoice.



I don't know any of those names you are referring to. I also don't know where the hell you have been but abbreviations have been a part of New Eden forever. It's just something people do with words sometimes. Deal with it. If you can't handle the swag then maybe you should cover up the glam with duct tape.



And the philosophy I know and practice is that if a war is to be fought it must be waged in a way that no one should be able to overlook it. Hence the golden glittering sanctified swag. Fire a Laser Rifle. The brilliant tracer leaves no room for argument as to who is the source of it. We must be more like that holy light. Save that quiet prayer nonsense for cowards. Our cause is one that must be burned with a ferocity visible to anyone. That's the point our holy glitter.


You missed the point of that link. It was to prove that my gloriously fabulous comrades are a grand part of the warzone. J4LP is a very big part of the reason that the minnies haven't completely pushed the amarr out of the warzone. Love us or hate us, we're here and we r who we r. And you should be thankful for that. Try letting go of your shame and just doing it like you're gonna die young. The clock is tik tok-ing so look at the reasons that you'd try to hang on to your decorum and take it off.

So I challenge you to live like a true amarrian. Post like you've got Swag.

1st off here's a link https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery

2nd here's a little fyi

"Beginning of the Reclaiming

The early Amarr Empire did not practice slavery, though the indentured servitude and serfdom of its peasantry had much in common with it. However, peasants were considered free men and had the right to leave their lands whenever they wished. In practice, this was rarely done, as even in the best cases it meant trading one lord for another.

Proper slavery did not appear until the beginning of the Reclaiming in 20078 AD. The Udorian presence on Amarr Island allowed many of the Empire's peasants the opportunity to leave for a much less restrictive society. The Emperor at the time, fearing the threat of the Udorians, declared them heretics and ordered an entire merchant fleet seized by his army. The Udorian traders, unprepared for this, were captured nearly to the man.

These traders were the first slaves of the Empire. The Emperor impressed the traders into the Empire's navy and continued the practice with other sailors captured during the early days of the Reclaiming. Once the Empire began making territorial conquests on the Udorian continents of Cas-Udor and Ves-Udor, the Udorian citizens were likewise pressed into service. However, many of the people captured by the Empire were unfit for military duty.

Rather than allow them to remain free, and possibly threaten the Empire as rebels, the Empire enslaved every Udorian they could capture alive. These slaves were given to the most powerful and loyal of the Amarr nobility, as well as various churches and religious officials. Through this, the taking and owning of slaves became codified in the Scriptures and subject to numerous laws and restrictions.

During this time the Amarr also encountered the Khanid, who lived as scattered tribes that had frequently clashed with the Udorians in the past. Though some Khanid tribes were conquered and subsequently enslaved, many willingly joined with the Amarr and were spared slavery entirely."

Her's a link to the scriptures as well btw - https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Scriptures

Read my earlier post about interruptation of reclaiming differing - their are forms of removing sin most of which peaceful whipping is a "means" of it when absolutely needed such as what I mentioned earlier. A means like that is not "pleasing" God more likely God see's it as this "I'm sorry but for your certain transgressions it must be done" he much rather prefer it through peaceful teaching or other means then whipping as I said it's only when absolutely necessary.

Also IF you don't know those names and such you wouldn't know of "swag" - swag is a RL slang term in NONE of the EVE lore is the word used once. Which I've tried to point out to you so you can correct that, YET you refuse.

Next read that line I wrote on the Reclaiming interruptation closely. I already replied about FW and such earlier. (Getting tired of repeating myself because you get so upset you outright ingore every post I make)

Lastly - I think you missed my point in my reply - *claps* I love how you totally tried dodging it when I pointed out your inactivity in both sides also I pointed at the link was EVE side and notDust side & your not a EVE player to my knowledge. Also I pointed out it is totally lore unrelated to the topics we were & are discussing which you tried dodging with "I'm right - he's wrong & i'm a awesome Amarrian" nonesense. Re-read my intial reply more closely.

Also J4LP isn't the sole thing standing between Minmitar & Amarr FW land. You fail to mention people like Aero, Chicago, myself, Sadman, Reveangence & multiple countless EVE as well as Dust players who are working together reclaiming land for The Amarr - oh wait of course you failed to mention them that's because your not their helping us on the feild, in space, or in the Amarr FW channels. Right.... so of course you don't know them....

PS: I don't hate you or The Amarr Empire which is painfully obvious (so that particular statement I find invalid) i'm trying to point out the error in your ways fact is I'm a better supporter currently solely because i'm out their helping not to mention I took in Scions as a distant Amarr FW branch to my main corporation among other things.

Dude as much as I understand where you are coming from you are mistaking someone who doesn't care for ignorance.

I have to admit I do like a couple of the ideas of the Disciple.

If we fight we are to do it in a manner pleasing to both the eye and to God.

One does not take any action but for pleasing the Empress and bringing all those under the glory of God. We do not fight out of hatred but so that we can help others of New Eden shed their misguided beliefs and join the Empire in its righteous cause.

I shall assume that this conversation has been brought up as a test of faith and nothing more.

Templar One Is Dead and all other first generation clones along with him, but your message speaks truth even if thy name does not.

Templars can never die brother. What was once lost can be found again.

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First post in the intergalactic summit, and I just wanted to say how f*cking nuts and amazing the Amarr Empire is. They're by far my favorite, in terms of concept. Sadly, the Gallente will always be my first love (however, the Amarr are quickly catching up since I started playing EVE).

The Amarr weapons are, just in case anyone doesn't know, and I explain it a lot, but just in case: Crazy. The Empire builds some of the stupidest weapons in existence, all as a sort of test for their soldiers. Examples below (Potential Wall of Text warning):

-Laser Rifles originally had a failsafe to prevent it from overheating (although it was a mining laser). For no reason other than the want of harm to their soldiers, they removed the failsafe. It normally would never overheat, and instead shut itself off once it hit the max volume of heat it can have without overloading the weapon, something that a skilled Laser Rifle user should be doing anyways.

-Scrambler Rifles were built with an overheat device. It can't be said whether there was ever an anti-overheat mechanic, but it's safe to assume they intentionally did not add one.

-Drop Uplinks can cause cancer through the radiation it gives off. A normal empire wouldn't put out something so deadly to it's own people.

-Amarr Dropsuits are the big one. Amarr Medium suits are the most uncomfortable (except the Caldari, possibly) racial medium suit, and not only that, but they function by putting a wire that connects the helmet/suit and your neural systems, causing IMMENSE pain to the wearer of the suit. Heavy Dropsuits use a special kind of fabric that disperses bullet heat over a wider radius upon hitting the suit. Less physical damage to the suit itself, but the wearer takes whatever the suit doesn't. Again, this means a rather large amount of pain.

So just from this stuff, it's safe to say the Empire are building their technology to intentionally hurt their people. But this isn't for no reason. It's a test of faith, more like. How long could you go, taking burns and diseases and deaths, and everything else, just for the name of your God? The Amarr have proven they can go a very long time, not only in lore and stories, but Amarr suits have the most stamina, which suggests that they have the strongest willpower of all of them, going through so much pain and still running the furthest and taking the most sustained fire (or at least they're supposed to). I dunno. It's just how I look at them.

But they're still crazy. There's a quote from I think the Amarr's Bible, or something like that, I'm not sure, that basically says "We didn't build these new weapons, and we didn't find this wormhole. God gave us these weapons, and god lead us to this wormhole. God wants us to cleanse this place he has brought us to." Now, I mean. There's nothing wrong with that. Following religion and taking locations in the name of your Empire and God is completely fine. But I dunno. When I look at laser weaponry that my people CLEARLY put years and years of research, resources, and time into, the first thing I think isn't "God wants me to kill everything". If anything, my first thought would be "God wants me to defend my people". In a way though, I suppose you could say history is repeating itself with the Amarr.

Anyways, sorry for barging in, I'll leave you to your things, I just wanted to let you guys know how nuts and f*cking awesome the Amarr are. o/

PS: They're also the most pimp. Their ships AND their suits look the most bad*ss.

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I would consult with Steadyhand.

He also claims to have been at Pikes Landing. Eitherway being a first generation clone neither makes you special or better. You are no better than a dangerous animal.....who was put down.

(( Not sure where you go the wormhole quote from. All known canonical references to and from the scriptures are on eveloepdia, if you cant source it otherwise it isn't official cannon. As for their tech why do you assume it is designed to hurt people?))

Is God through the wormhole? Did God grant us this boon, this new technology, a revelation from on high? These weapons are God's new prophecy, domain, and blessing. Let us use God's grace and prepare New Eden. We are God's soldiers, weapons, glory. Our people are God's army. Together, we are the legion. -The Heresies of Hinketsu

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Urk, please unquote my whole big post. That's annoying. At least just unquote everything but my name. :P

The wormhole quote, those weren't the exact words. Read this:
The description of the Legion, the Tier 3 Amarr Strategic Cruiser.

Also, I assume it's designed to hurt people because no sane Empire would be releasing such technology. So it's one of two things:
1) They want to TEST their people's willpower and endurance (which is the most likely one, and the one I prefer to think, if you read my full post).
2) They're NOT a sane Empire. Which is a complete possibility.

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((Those are heresies, as said in the name of the book they were drawn from. Such words and teaching have no place in the Empire and directly contravene the purity and divinity of Amarrian orthodoxy.

Which technologies do you speak of?))

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I didn't want to hijack a thread and I don't want to repeat myself. Read my first big long post. Everything there would normally be named too unsafe and directly harmful to the user, but the Amarr allow and encourage it. There'd be no other reason to do so. If anything, make weapons or systems that DON'T hurt your people.

Also, like I said before, that you probably didn't read, UNQUOTE MY BIG LONG POST. Seriously, all it does is make people scroll down more, which isn't helpful to anyone. People will know who you're talking to if it provides context (which it does), and is right under the post you quoted.

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Praise Jamyl; Empress of Swag.

Show your faith by making banners to cheer our templars on and demoralize/confuse the matari! (( http://blingee.com ))

....You're definitely confusing us, but I'm not sure about demoralizing.

Oh... So that's why you never find Minmatar in Gallente nightclubs...

Yeah we have already rented them out to pray in.

Wouldn't you just get thrown out by a large mob of protesters and pressure groups?

I mean, the whole point of the federation is that everyone is equal, right up until people start getting in your way...

Honestly....Satja would probably beat them to a bloody pulp.... I haven't seen any mortal brawl half as well as she does.

Yeah, but there are a lot of people who want to go to these nightclubs that take up more space than a small hamlet so they can dance, get drunk, and do crystal egg.

When someone tried to get in the way of that...

Large armies of pitchfork holding torchlight mobs tend to converge on the place.

I've never personally seen what Satja is like in a fight (sounds pretty vicious to me though!), but 1 person against a 10 000 man mob is pushing the odds a little.

you'd have to take it from our cold rusty dead hands