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Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:53:00 -
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This is disgraceful to The Empire & Our Empress.... Don't bring your RL gangster, justin beiber, bondocks, somewhat Minmitar "swag" in this world. Please & Thank You. - PS I'll enjoy watching you have it hard here in New Eden. Or go inactive either works.
Refine yourself as a proper Amarrian as well as knowledgable & I'll change my opinion.... |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.01.27 21:01:00 -
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PS New Eden is basically ours anyway we're just very nice - look in "The Amarr Are Lucky" post - we have a giant death machine in the lightest of terms |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.01.27 21:16:00 -
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Note: You have been in very few corporations from my sources - just 2 the 1 your in now is your 2nd, your 1st fell apart & it was called "Dirt 'n' Glitter" lol very colorful name but now inactive & the 1 your now in well lol congradulations your like the only member of it & it's still VERY new. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:42:00 -
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Kazig wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:This is disgraceful to The Empire & Our Empress.... Don't bring your RL gangster, justin beiber, bondocks, somewhat Minmitar "swag" in this world. Please & Thank You. - PS I'll enjoy watching you have it hard here in New Eden. Or go inactive either works. Refine yourself as a proper Amarrian as well as knowledgable & I'll change my opinion.... Hold your dirty Amarrian tongue! My kin don't have swag, swag is for those worthless Caldari.
Sure you all don't.... Though I rarely say this but: This is obvious blatant Minmitar propoganda (or you haven't met all Minmitar supporters) |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:44:00 -
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:True Adamance wrote:Kazig wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:This is disgraceful to The Empire & Our Empress.... Don't bring your RL gangster, justin beiber, bondocks, somewhat Minmitar "swag" in this world. Please & Thank You. - PS I'll enjoy watching you have it hard here in New Eden. Or go inactive either works. Refine yourself as a proper Amarrian as well as knowledgable & I'll change my opinion.... Hold your dirty Amarrian tongue! My kin don't have swag, swag is for those worthless Caldari. Boon docks was funny as hell.....really weird too... We Amarr however have copious quantities of SWAG! Everything we have is literally covered in gold. If that's not swagalicious I don't know what is.
The gold is symbolic why do you think offerings to a God or Gods are in Gold. Plus holy colors are always bright in nature also gold is a abondant & resilant metal why wouldn't we use it.
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Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:52:00 -
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:This is disgraceful to The Empire & Our Empress.... Don't bring your RL gangster, justin beiber, bondocks, somewhat Minmitar "swag" in this world. Please & Thank You. - PS I'll enjoy watching you have it hard here in New Eden. Or go inactive either works. Refine yourself as a proper Amarrian as well as knowledgable & I'll change my opinion.... I preach here for the honor and glory of the great alliance I whip My slaves Back and Forth who have done great service in the name of our Empress, I'd be letting my noble allies down to not preach their message in their way. Vinsarrow wrote:Note: You have been in very few corporations from my sources - just 2 the 1 your in now is your 2nd, your 1st fell apart & it was called "Dirt 'n' Glitter" lol very colorful name but now inactive & the 1 your now in well lol congradulations your like the only member of it & it's still VERY new. Got you hot and bothered enough for you to dox me, eh? I think someone's got a crush!
You do NOT whip the servants (those which you call "slaves") without good reason such as a illegal action. Whipping them is to try to punish them for wrong doing &/or absolve of sin for wrong doing. You do NOT whip them for good deeds heretic, you teach them properly through scripture & classes as is by Amarrian law.
Regarding the last part - No, just stating facts of how ignorant you are in these matters & that you are lacking in proper knowledge therefore not reliable as a source of information but to prove you are not reliable requires proof - sad I have to explain such a simple concept to you.
Just pointing out the facts as I said. Which is the whole reason why i'm even posting here is for the facts in the 1st place. Another fact is that you aren't on enough for me to care much anyway.
Nice try with the troll attempt on me & The Amarr Empire - though it was ALMOST entertaining but I've seen better trolls in my days who actuallly succcesfully proved to be entertaining as a troll. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.10 20:45:00 -
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Whipping them as I said without proper reason is a violation of Amarrian law & Amarrian civil serives can & will follow-up on such misdeeds. It is mistreatment.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Amarr_Civil_Service?_ga=1.133915084.396760608.1391992389 |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:These capsuleers serve the Empire of their own accord...they are somewhat afforded....exceptions to Imperial law. Doesn't mean I agree with them. However there is no law preventing the whipping of slaves, only ones that prevent excessive violence and mistreatment.
The Amarrian Civil Services has influence on all Amarrians going up a way to amarr nobility as they are enforcers of Amarrian law & have also worked with the outside races on topics SUCH AS current or former servants reporting illegal mistreating to which the Amarrian civil services looks into, follows up, & sometimes prosecutes.
I would assume it goes for Mercenaries, citizens, nobility, scholars, capsuleers, visiters or outside races living under The Amarr Empire and military alike as they are Amarr Servants.
Unless of course you just illegally bought slaves from a pirate gang that randomly pillaged a colony & made them slaves to be sold on the black market - which would not be within Amarr records/law as legal servants.
There as, it would be illegal to have them via Concord I would assume. But that's a entirely different topic not in the lore.
Also you did not read my underlined part which states as follows above "without proper reason" whipping is allowed ONLY under reasonable cause such as I stated before illegal or unholy action such as - stealing, attacking, vandilism, refusing to be absolved of sin to a extreme point or doing things that go completely opposite of scripture as well.
Then & only then is whipping within reason to be done. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:49:00 -
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:
You do NOT whip the servants (those which you call "slaves") without good reason such as a illegal action. Whipping them is to try to punish them for wrong doing &/or absolve of sin for wrong doing. You do NOT whip them for good deeds heretic, you teach them properly through scripture & classes as is by Amarrian law.
Regarding the last part - No, just stating facts of how ignorant you are in these matters & that you are lacking in proper knowledge therefore not reliable as a source of information but to prove you are not reliable requires proof - sad I have to explain such a simple concept to you.
Just pointing out the facts as I said. Which is the whole reason why i'm even posting here is for the facts in the 1st place. Another fact is that you aren't on enough for me to care much anyway.
Nice try with the troll attempt on me & The Amarr Empire - though it was ALMOST entertaining but I've seen better trolls in my days who actuallly succcesfully proved to be entertaining as a troll.
So you just kinda slept through all of this?And I'll whip them if I need to. Back and forth be it pleasing to the Lord. They'll only YOLO if we can't save their soul. We do what we must with any of our tools. By Lasers, Whips, and Swag we will redeem the universe.
*slowly begins to clap* Congradulations on further proving your a unreliable source & a possible heretic.
1st off I already explained whipping so I'll just skip that somewhat. Whipping is not pleasing to God - are you trying to make out The Amarr God to be a sicko physco that enjoys watching pain & suffering? No - he does not find it "pleasing" it is a means of absolving of sin not a pleasantry.
Also your.... lol - yigdy yo yo yo Minmitar, bondocks, justin beiber, Miley swag reference term "YOLO" has literally no meaning here or did you forget that your a clone & the exchanging of conciousness technology already?
Regarding "Reclaiming" if you read the lore you'd know The Amarr, The Theology Council, Amarr military, and The Amarr nobility (going up to The Heirs and Emperor &/or Empress as well as The Speaker Of Truths) have had varying takes & interruptation of Reclaiming. Reclaiming is just fine depending on how it's done & why.
But for us - The Amarr Empire does need a bit more FW land but that's a topic I've covered before, which leads me to my last response....
Lastly - that Link LOL just further proved how unreliable & near heretical you are here. It's a Link to a EVE side forum post (not a Dust side forum post mind you) of Amarr victory nothing more. It is compleetely unrelated to Amarr Lore, scripture, law or culture & has literally no basis here in this conversation.
Last I checked you are hardly on enough to do much for the Amarr Empire in FW nor have I've seen you once fighting for Amarr or in a certain famous official Amarr FW channel. Haven't seen you LFSing, RFing, requesting EVE support, getting support or anything much beyond this disgraceful posting.
I have been around much longer fighting for The Amarr Empire as often as possible then you (which is a Fact I add) & i'm pretty sure my Amarr standing is alot more then yours due to that.
But you are not beyond forgiving I suppose.... So - as I've said before, refine youself as a proper Amarrian & then we'll see.... |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:21:00 -
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1st off here's a link https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery
2nd here's a little fyi
"Beginning of the Reclaiming
The early Amarr Empire did not practice slavery, though the indentured servitude and serfdom of its peasantry had much in common with it. However, peasants were considered free men and had the right to leave their lands whenever they wished. In practice, this was rarely done, as even in the best cases it meant trading one lord for another.
Proper slavery did not appear until the beginning of the Reclaiming in 20078 AD. The Udorian presence on Amarr Island allowed many of the Empire's peasants the opportunity to leave for a much less restrictive society. The Emperor at the time, fearing the threat of the Udorians, declared them heretics and ordered an entire merchant fleet seized by his army. The Udorian traders, unprepared for this, were captured nearly to the man.
These traders were the first slaves of the Empire. The Emperor impressed the traders into the Empire's navy and continued the practice with other sailors captured during the early days of the Reclaiming. Once the Empire began making territorial conquests on the Udorian continents of Cas-Udor and Ves-Udor, the Udorian citizens were likewise pressed into service. However, many of the people captured by the Empire were unfit for military duty.
Rather than allow them to remain free, and possibly threaten the Empire as rebels, the Empire enslaved every Udorian they could capture alive. These slaves were given to the most powerful and loyal of the Amarr nobility, as well as various churches and religious officials. Through this, the taking and owning of slaves became codified in the Scriptures and subject to numerous laws and restrictions.
During this time the Amarr also encountered the Khanid, who lived as scattered tribes that had frequently clashed with the Udorians in the past. Though some Khanid tribes were conquered and subsequently enslaved, many willingly joined with the Amarr and were spared slavery entirely."
Her's a link to the scriptures as well btw - https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Scriptures
Read my earlier post about interruptation of reclaiming differing - their are forms of removing sin most of which peaceful whipping is a "means" of it when absolutely needed such as what I mentioned earlier. A means like that is not "pleasing" God more likely God see's it as this "I'm sorry but for your certain transgressions it must be done" he much rather prefer it through peaceful teaching or other means then whipping as I said it's only when absolutely necessary.
Also IF you don't know those names and such you wouldn't know of "swag" - swag is a RL slang term in NONE of the EVE lore is the word used once. Which I've tried to point out to you so you can correct that, YET you refuse.
Next read that line I wrote on the Reclaiming interruptation closely. I already replied about FW and such earlier. (Getting tired of repeating myself because you get so upset you outright ingore every post I make)
Lastly - I think you missed my point in my reply - *claps* I love how you totally tried dodging it when I pointed out your inactivity in both sides also I pointed at the link was EVE side and notDust side & your not a EVE player to my knowledge. Also I pointed out it is totally lore unrelated to the topics we were & are discussing which you tried dodging with "I'm right - he's wrong & i'm a awesome Amarrian" nonesense. Re-read my intial reply more closely.
Also J4LP isn't the sole thing standing between Minmitar & Amarr FW land. You fail to mention people like Aero, Chicago, myself, Sadman, Reveangence & multiple countless EVE as well as Dust players who are working together reclaiming land for The Amarr - oh wait of course you failed to mention them that's because your not their helping us on the feild, in space, or in the Amarr FW channels. Right.... so of course you don't know them....
PS: I don't hate you or The Amarr Empire which is painfully obvious (so that particular statement I find invalid) i'm trying to point out the error in your ways fact is I'm a better supporter currently solely because i'm out their helping not to mention I took in Scions as a distant Amarr FW branch to my main corporation among other things. |
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Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:31:00 -
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Someone who doesn't care & posting as he has IS ignorant in my opinion - as I've said the whole reason why i'm posting here was to correct that. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:1st off here's a link https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery2nd here's a little fyi "Beginning of the Reclaiming
The early Amarr Empire did not practice slavery, though the indentured servitude and serfdom of its peasantry had much in common with it. However, peasants were considered free men and had the right to leave their lands whenever they wished. In practice, this was rarely done, as even in the best cases it meant trading one lord for another.
Proper slavery did not appear until the beginning of the Reclaiming in 20078 AD. The Udorian presence on Amarr Island allowed many of the Empire's peasants the opportunity to leave for a much less restrictive society. The Emperor at the time, fearing the threat of the Udorians, declared them heretics and ordered an entire merchant fleet seized by his army. The Udorian traders, unprepared for this, were captured nearly to the man.
These traders were the first slaves of the Empire. The Emperor impressed the traders into the Empire's navy and continued the practice with other sailors captured during the early days of the Reclaiming. Once the Empire began making territorial conquests on the Udorian continents of Cas-Udor and Ves-Udor, the Udorian citizens were likewise pressed into service. However, many of the people captured by the Empire were unfit for military duty.
Rather than allow them to remain free, and possibly threaten the Empire as rebels, the Empire enslaved every Udorian they could capture alive. These slaves were given to the most powerful and loyal of the Amarr nobility, as well as various churches and religious officials. Through this, the taking and owning of slaves became codified in the Scriptures and subject to numerous laws and restrictions.
During this time the Amarr also encountered the Khanid, who lived as scattered tribes that had frequently clashed with the Udorians in the past. Though some Khanid tribes were conquered and subsequently enslaved, many willingly joined with the Amarr and were spared slavery entirely."Her's a link to the scriptures as well btw - https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_ScripturesRead my earlier post about interruptation of reclaiming differing - their are forms of removing sin most of which peaceful whipping is a "means" of it when absolutely needed such as what I mentioned earlier. A means like that is not "pleasing" God more likely God see's it as this "I'm sorry but for your certain transgressions it must be done" he much rather prefer it through peaceful teaching or other means then whipping as I said it's only when absolutely necessary. Also IF you don't know those names and such you wouldn't know of "swag" - swag is a RL slang term in NONE of the EVE lore is the word used once. Which I've tried to point out to you so you can correct that, YET you refuse. Next read that line I wrote on the Reclaiming interruptation closely. I already replied about FW and such earlier. (Getting tired of repeating myself because you get so upset you outright ingore every post I make) Lastly - I think you missed my point in my reply - *claps* I love how you totally tried dodging it when I pointed out your inactivity in both sides also I pointed at the link was EVE side and notDust side & your not a EVE player to my knowledge. Also I pointed out it is totally lore unrelated to the topics we were & are discussing which you tried dodging with "I'm right - he's wrong & i'm a awesome Amarrian" nonesense. Re-read my intial reply more closely. Also J4LP isn't the sole thing standing between Minmitar & Amarr FW land. You fail to mention people like Aero, Chicago, myself, Sadman, Reveangence & multiple countless EVE as well as Dust players who are working together reclaiming land for The Amarr - oh wait of course you failed to mention them that's because your not their helping us on the feild, in space, or in the Amarr FW channels. Right.... so of course you don't know them.... PS: I don't hate you or The Amarr Empire which is painfully obvious (so that particular statement I find invalid) i'm trying to point out the error in your ways fact is I'm a better supporter currently solely because i'm out their helping not to mention I took in Scions as a distant Amarr FW branch to my main corporation among other things. Dude as much as I understand where you are coming from you are mistaking someone who doesn't care for ignorance. I have to admit I do like a couple of the ideas of the Disciple. If we fight we are to do it in a manner pleasing to both the eye and to God.
PS: I was editing some as you were replying. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2014.04.21 20:53:00 -
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Still going at it? Already made my point. |
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