I think doing this is a bit scrubby .. it's mainly people trying to get the most eHP possible so they don't have to rely on skill to survive

HOWEVER .. I'm not saying you can't do it or shouldn't do it .. but rather I'd like you to answer this single question

Why haven't you skilled into the commando suit ???

This is mainly aimed at the guy who kept dying in his heavy suit and proto Rail Rifle .. he clearly had the SP to skill into at least ADV Commando suit but decided against it ...

I'd like to garner thoughts from the community .. I see more Heavy suits using light weapons than I do commando suit users ... Why ? Is there a problem with the Commando suit that I'm missing ? Is the existence of the commando suit missed by a majority of the player base ? Will all the proposed suit bonuses and changes in 1.8 lead to more people using the commando suit and less people using light weapons on heavy suits ?

I think there will be a rise of commando's in 1.8, I'm considering one, but as for heavies with lights.... Said it before, say it again... They are just tryhards that need **** tonnes of HP to be competitive!

I proudly play a basic lolmando with lazer rifle, scrambler rifle, and drop uplink. GLORY TO AMARR!

My alt runs Amarr Heavy + Laser Rifle
Also watch the opening movie, you'll see the heavies with laser rifles and swarms. not scrubby, intended
You're honestly probably slightly disagreeing to the range of Light weapons, considering HMG is short range. The forge is long range but not a viable on-the-ground anti infantry weapon.

Using a medium frame with light weapons is actually easier, the only people who complain about heavies with light weapons are those who can't aim very well.

Commandos are currently garbage, and many heavies have not, and will not put SP into them until they're fixed.

Well mainly I was getting at why the commando isn't used as much as heavy suit + light weapon combo ..

With the 5x SP event and an omega booster ready to go tomorrow I was considering using the SP earnt to go to ADV commando but it dawned on me that I rarely see commando's but I see alot of heavys with light weapons which baffled me a bit as if I wanted to use light weapons on a heavy suit I'd go for the suit that is primarily designed for that role

If there are problems with the commando suit then I wont bother and instead I'll make an alt and skill into it to try it out for myself

Well mainly I was getting at why the commando isn't used as much as heavy suit + light weapon combo ..

With the 5x SP event and an omega booster ready to go tomorrow I was considering using the SP earnt to go to ADV commando but it dawned on me that I rarely see commando's but I see alot of heavys with light weapons which baffled me a bit as if I wanted to use light weapons on a heavy suit I'd go for the suit that is primarily designed for that role

If there are problems with the commando suit then I wont bother and instead I'll make an alt and skill into it to try it out for myself

Commandos are currently garbage, and many heavies have not, and will not put SP into them until they're fixed.

Don't talk about my baby like that!!!

But yes, it is garbage in its current state

Too right Fiend. People like Rogue and others that complain about heavies that use light are just not happy with a fat suit that has a massive hitbox and terrible strafe speed showing them up. If ye can't handle a heavy with a light weapon then I'd love to see what ye are like with a fast moving med/light suit

OP, why should players that have skilled into basic heavy and sentinel suit have to turn around and skill into another suit when they have a suit they are already used to using to run longer range weapons on for different battle conditions. It's not the optimum suit for the job but it is using what tools are already skilled into.

The commando at the moment is a terrible suit. With the right mind set it can be a blast to use, but it really is just a **** and giggles suit that is easy to take out. I'm a HMG heavy for over a year and have had level 5 in the AR for most of that time, but I run an AR Mini assault rather than putting the AR on my fat suit for when I want speed and range.

Honestly, anyone giving out about heavies with light weapons should try running them for a bit. Just get the basic heavy frame, run it for a week, and come back here on the forums and say with a straight face that it's easy mode.

Tldr

I have a fit for a heavy with proto AR. I don't use it very often. Usually I take it because it costs less than running an equivalent Gallente proto logi. I am going to die anyway, and as a pilot I need to be isk conscious. I also call it out if there is heavy resistance and I know that atleast two or three people will be shooting back at me with a better ranged weapon. It's my own force multiplier. My logi suit wastes money if I am going to only use my gun against true slayers, and as I am not skilled far into any medium suit, it makes sense to use a heavy.

Funny though, everyone writes theads about heavies and rifles, but what about heavy snipers?! That's just the kid from down the block with the worried mom who didn't want the other boys and girls playing to rough so she covered him in adamantium pillows.

But then why all the complaints about Logistics suits ditching equipment and running as slayer assault suits then ?

This kind of thing is what confuses me about the DUST community .. loads of people complain about logistics suits being slayers and then claim that heavy suits using light weapons is fine ..

Anyway I was only asking why people don't use commando suits and instead use heavy suits and light weapons ..

1.8 should fix the problems with the commando suit so hopefully more people will use it

I don't run a light weapon heavy, but consider this.

I didn't want to skill into Amarr Heavy frames. There are no other racial heavy frames. So until there are, I'll use a Militia or Standard Heavy frame.

For guys with proto Sentinels and light weapons, I have no idea.

That caldari sentinel is awfully tempting.

656 base shield HP, 4 sec shield regen, 1 sec depleted regen, 30 hp/sec.

Fit a complex regulator in the lowslot,

1 complex energizer, 1 complex recharger, 2 complex extenders in the highs and you have a walking 800 shield HP tank that regens 60 hp/sec with a recharge delay of 3 secs and depleted delay of less than 1 second.

Yeh, I'm going Gal but the Cal sentinel has me a bit worried. Fun times ahead

I'm very interested in making a commando secondary for my heavy alt after 1.8

I wouldn't use a heavy with a light weapon normally - I know full well that the current heavy lack the ability to redeploy without vehicle aim (which in itself can be limiting) as well as its terrible recovery rate. A smart opponent will simply wear down the suit. Not to mention the lack of equipment really shortens engagement time till they have to rearm or limits its flexibility (thinking how advantageous a scanner can be at times)

Only problem I can see in 1.8 for me is that I love the idea of a Mincommando but hate swarm launchers and find MD's impossible to use. So what options would I have? duel CR's?? interesting concept but I don't think it would be particularly brilliant

lemme guess all bpo except the suit right?