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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:17:00 -
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We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes.
And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS.
When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim?
If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:27:00 -
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i use the ds4 so :p
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Horizen Kenpachi
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:30:00 -
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Try the ps move u have it easy
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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castba
Penguin's March
287
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:32:00 -
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Pretty sure that "from the beginning of shooters" it was keyboard only (arrow keys to move/turn, and generally space to fire) |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
3061
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:33:00 -
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DS 3 just feels comfortable to me
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
Forum warrior 3
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:33:00 -
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DS3 (or 4) user here saying AA is bad...
Also it's not my fault that I and maybe others are better with a controller than you, although I've been using it for years so...
Just because you think FPS games can only be played with kb/m doesn't mean everyone thinks that. I do just fine with the DS3 (or 4).
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
990
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:35:00 -
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If you want to use KBM go play a PC shooter, this is a console game it should have only been DS3 but whiny eve players didn't want to adapt.
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
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Daddrobit
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
445
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:38:00 -
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Plays on a console with no native KBM support.
Demands KBM be most focused on means of input.
Logic |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:39:00 -
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Because this is a console game.
If you absolutely need equal footing with the KB+M combo, there are all sorts of PC games to satisfy you.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
116
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:40:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:DS3 (or 4) user here saying AA is bad...
Also it's not my fault that I and maybe others are better with a controller than you, although I've been using it for years so...
Just because you think FPS games can only be played with kb/m doesn't mean everyone thinks that. I do just fine with the DS3 (or 4).
unless you own a ps4, you are using a DS3
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:41:00 -
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Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:unless you own a ps4, you are using a DS3 I do own a PS4, but the DS4 also works with Dust on the PS3 fyi.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
116
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:42:00 -
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i did not know you could use the DS4 on the ps3
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
295
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:43:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Plays on a console with no native KBM support. Demands KBM be most focused on means of input. Logic Ah, a dead corporation. Well, it may surprise you to learn that the PS3 has native KBM support. Try plugging in a keyboard sometime! Have you ever wondered how people navigate Netflix or the PSN store? What fool would slowly type in each letter in a search with a controller? Even Sony realizes that the KBM is an essential form of input. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
346
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:43:00 -
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I used a keyboard and mouse originally because the movement was smoother beyond compare. For a vehicle, using the controller was such a complete pain. Now I just use it mostly because my controller's right stick gets stuck at times and when I play for an extended period of time with it my hands start to cramp.
Basically, it is just habit now and my controller sucks. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1071
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Posted - 2014.01.20 21:48:00 -
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Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Try the ps move u have it easy agree, the ps move is a great way to play shooters (esp with gun attachment) and actually very precise if done correctly. just look at killzone, it worked great there. in dust on the other hand it looks like it is programmed by poop. |
Donwalis
BIG BAD W0LVES
10
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:04:00 -
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no Kbm wasn't the first input device for a fps before home pc everyone went to an arcade to play and there my friend was -----wait for it .low and behold a joy stick and button |
MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
448
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:19:00 -
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I used to use KB/M controls, but with so many things broken on it I started practicing with the DS3 more and more
My combat performance with the DS3 quickly eclipsed my performance with the mouse.
Thanks for showing me the light console folk
If you hadn't so fervently argued against any development time being spent on refining KB/M controls, I would still hardly be a threat to you as anything other than a redline sniper, ignorant and content with my smooth, working controls. Now, I've got a decent chance of shredding protobears with a standard combat rifle.
Seriously, it is so ******* easy to splatter someone with a combat rifle or scrambler rifle with the DS3 by dancing left and right letting AA do all the work while I tap the trigger, I barely even have to think. I'd NEVER be able to make that many bullets stay on target with the mouse in close quarters. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2284
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:31:00 -
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Ohh goons. Going for the low hanging fruit of stirring up the KB/M vs controller debate.
I'll bite though, use the DS3. Go native. To hell with the KB/M.
Hail Satan
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1911
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:38:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:If you want to use KBM go play a PC shooter, this is a console game it should have only been DS3 but whiny eve players didn't want to adapt.
LOL. Dust should have been on PC to begin with. No 12 yr old CoD-playing, mountaindew-swilling, instant gratification scrubs there.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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BAM HUSQVARNA
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:40:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes.
And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS.
When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim?
If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought.
Time to pick up the DS3 pal. No way CCP are going to fix KB/M and get rid of the insanely strong auto aim.
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2284
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:42:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:If you want to use KBM go play a PC shooter, this is a console game it should have only been DS3 but whiny eve players didn't want to adapt. LOL. Dust should have been on PC to begin with. No 12 yr old CoD-playing, mountaindew-swilling, instant gratification scrubs there.
Thats some multilayered subtle sarcasm there. Just needs a cheetos reference to be complete.
Hail Satan
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
568
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:44:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:If you want to use KBM go play a PC shooter, this is a console game it should have only been DS3 but whiny eve players didn't want to adapt. LOL. Dust should have been on PC to begin with. No 12 yr old CoD-playing, mountaindew-swilling, instant gratification scrubs there.
Nope just cellar dwelling, 30 year old neck bearded, virginal, mama's boys make up the PC master race. Boy isn't stereotyping fun! Anybody can do it. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1187
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:44:00 -
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I wasn't aware that silent minorities had "languishing masses". here I though only majorities could have masses.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
CLOSED BETA VET
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BAM HUSQVARNA
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:46:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:I used to use KB/M controls, but with so many things broken on it I started practicing with the DS3 more and more
My combat performance with the DS3 quickly eclipsed my performance with the mouse.
Thanks for showing me the light console folk
If you hadn't so fervently argued against any development time being spent on refining KB/M controls, I would still hardly be a threat to you as anything other than a redline sniper, ignorant and content with my smooth, working controls. Now, I've got a decent chance of shredding protobears with a standard combat rifle.
Seriously, it is so ******* easy to splatter someone with a combat rifle or scrambler rifle with the DS3 by dancing left and right letting AA do all the work while I tap the trigger, I barely even have to think. I'd NEVER be able to make that many bullets stay on target with the mouse in close quarters.
^ This dude is so on the money it ain't even funny...
Are there any calls to get rid of the auto aim? |
Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
102
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:50:00 -
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Sounds to me your butt Hirt because you suck on the DS3/4. I've played kb/m on almost all fps and only started using a ds3 recently when I started dust514 and I found it fine to use as I can still stomp without A. (I did try it and found it meh)
So OP you should HTFU and use a DS3 or quit because CCP right is only interested in getting content out right now among bug fixes to graphics, adding more model animation etc.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3266
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:59:00 -
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I play with a super-leet trackball, and one of these awesome keyboards.
Join my cult.
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Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
151
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:04:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Plays on a console with no native KBM support. Demands KBM be most focused on means of input. Logic
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA!
You are trolling right?
Because you know the PS3 HAS NATIVE KB/M SUPPORT.
I play with a Logitech wireles KB/M that i also use for my laptop.
GET DUNKED NERD! LOL |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
226
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:20:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes.
And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS.
When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim?
If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought. iDK the condition of kb m on ps3 as I only use DS3 but I started gaming fps on pc with doom and quake eventually Halo 1 CE for PC, that was a game very similar to Dust514 in terms of ttk and the importance of strafing, I could 3sk most people with my pistol those of us who played it through to about 2007 tried several times switching to a, DS3 style of controller for the PC and we sucked, this game had no aim assisit and the fact is kbm was way more accurate, so from that experience thats why we have aim assist, that being said I wish we didnt.
I still however think if kbm inputs are sub par that they could and should be attended to, if technology is the limiting factor then please just tell us. I also understand the focus on the primary input device for this gaming system, I also think you need to cater to your nerds in Eve that might want to do something in between jumping gates and sitting in front of their kbm getting crumbs off of left click.
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IrishWebster
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
158
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:35:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:We all know that the proper way to sound like an elitist moron while playing an FPS is to claim that keyboard and mouse users are, in every way, superior to the mouth-breathing, slack-jawed Neanderthals who use the controllers that were designed with consoles in mind. Never mind that they have worked bloody fine for generations, we'll whine about how we're under-represented because the BEST way to play everything, EVER is to play with a keyboard and mouse.
Fixed that for you. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
482
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:37:00 -
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Origin of the word Goon--Gooney--meaning: Simpleton, idiot, stupid. In other words, the traditional terminology for goon is an idiot hired for brute force, who is easily manipulated and used due to not having coherent intelligence. I'm just placing this info here so you can think about your choice of Corporations before you go about trying to make a big speech...
Eltra Ardell wrote:We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes. Sorry, the Joystick was invented and used for actual warfare long before the prototypes of the mouse even existed.
Eltra Ardell wrote:And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS. And next you'll be asking that the PS3 doesn't have support for an X-box controller. The fact you get any KB/M support at all is a godsend. They could have just as easily ignored it completely. The only way you'd even remotely have a point in this statement is if every PlayStation came packaged with a Keyboard and Mouse. I mean look at what you wrote. "The controls are designed for an input device that 100% of all people who buy a PlayStation get with the system. I demand they spend all their time making a minority input device that only 15%-25% of users actually play with into the easiest method of controlling to use!"
Eltra Ardell wrote:When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim? You can actually USE a KB/M for this game says quite a bit. Also "Auto Aim" it's Aim Assist, and it's function is to remove the dead spot at the center of a joypad. As I've explained time and time again to the ignorant, Aim Assist only sticks to objects that pass the crosshair, it cannot "jump to" an object, and is as active as a rubbery window sticky you can buy in an arcade. A Mouse does not have a deadspace at the center of it's movement. Hence it has no need for "deadspace removal".
Eltra Ardell wrote:If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought. The only thing oppressed here is... *sigh*
.... never mind, you should really just.... go to a library, get something to read. Plenty of Science Fiction, adventure, whatever, or heck! Just write your own story! Creating an adventure for oneself is one of the best ways to increase general knowledge of the world, because it inspires one to research on their own terms... therefore what one learns there is far easier to remember and adapt. Learning and thinking can be fun, you just gotta make it so.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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